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OneBaseKing
Afghanistan412 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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OneBaseKing
Afghanistan412 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 05 2012 13:13 thisisnotralph wrote: is it necessary to use every hole in the motherboard? my case has 6 hex standoffs that correspond with my mobo, leaving one hole that isn't screwed (it isn't a corner hole, it's near the pci-e slot), but I don't have a hex screwdriver to remove the other brass standoffs (they are already screwed in tightly in holes not near my mobo). the only standoffs are the ones screwed in already, so i have to unscrew one of the used ones and relocate it. That probably made no sense but it's the best i can explain, i guess. im a bit confused but you dont have to use all holes as long as the board is firmly seated. but make sure there are no standoffs in places where your board doesnt have holes. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
 had also mounted it with the fan downward in the case it's been in and the case had no holes in the chassi so it's possible it has run a bit hot during its operation, though the computer haven't been used much for gaming or other kinds of power hungry tasks and the ambient temperature where I life aren't very high. | ||
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taldarimAltar
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What is your budget? $800-900 Can go slightly above if there's a really nice component. What is your resolution? I'm not sure what would be best. I want to play games like Dota 2, SC2 and Diablo 3 at a nice resolution (not necessarily max) What are you using it for? Gaming's about all. What is your upgrade cycle? 2-3 years When do you plan on building it? Next week (flexible) Do you plan on overclocking? I'd like to be able to do a simple overclock, like changing the multiplier. I think that's the easiest way to do it. I also want a pretty silent computer so if cooling can help achieve this I don't mind getting it. Do you need an Operating System? No Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? I'll be buying them from a electronics/computer mall, very competitive so they all sell parts at the same prices. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 05 2012 20:37 nam nam wrote: I've been scavenging for older parts for a new build and I'm a bit curious how people reason when it comes to psu's. I got a hold of an older psu (like 3 or 4 years old) that got overall good reviews for it's price class (more of a budget alternative but not ultra cheap). Is it ok to re-use this (it have enough power for what I need it for according to the specs)? I'm not sure how the life span looks for psu's and whatnot. Someone (not me) had also mounted it with the fan downward in the case it's been in and the case had no holes in the chassi so it's possible it has run a bit hot during its operation, though the computer haven't been used much for gaming or other kinds of power hungry tasks and the ambient temperature where I life aren't very high. How should we know? Giving the name / model of the power supply would help drastically. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On May 05 2012 21:28 Shikyo wrote: How should we know? Giving the name / model of the power supply would help drastically. I was more after the general philosophy of re-using old-ish power supplies. Assuming it's a quality brand, wheter or not it's sound to keep it or buy a new one for long term use. I'm not wondering if the computer will boot if I assemble it (it's been working on a more power hungry pc than I'm building). If you look at two quality/decent brands today of equal capabilities, are there any difference in their life span? Would this be different in the past? Is it wise to upgrade the psu even though it works atm just because it's older? Those kinds of things. It's a Zalman ZM360B-APS if those questions are too general. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 05 2012 22:01 nam nam wrote: I was more after the general philosophy of re-using old-ish power supplies. Assuming it's a quality brand, wheter or not it's sound to keep it or buy a new one for long term use. I'm not wondering if the computer will boot if I assemble it (it's been working on a more power hungry pc than I'm building). If you look at two quality/decent brands today of equal capabilities, are there any difference in their life span? Would this be different in the past? Is it wise to upgrade the psu even though it works atm just because it's older? Those kinds of things. It's a Zalman ZM360B-APS if those questions are too general. In general, a PSU is one of the last things I'd use used, because it has the capacity to blow up EVERYTHING. Not that I like used parts anyways. Very few warranties carry over, you don't know how much load the stuff's been under, for how long... A PSU is mostly about connectors and quality, like you seem to be asking, efficiency is going to be mostly minor unless you're worried about luxuries like noise. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
That model should even after 3-4 years be able to power a pretty light system but I would be wary of going too close to the 360w, something like i5 2400 with 6850 might be fine, though. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 05 2012 22:39 Shikyo wrote: Depends on the quality of the brand, generally it should be fine to reuse power supplies after 3-4 years and if it stops working you can just buy a new one so I don't really see why not. Some brands even have warranties longer than that so they obviously are meant to be used for longer than that. Depending on the intensity of use, most models will be able to deliver a bit less wattage after that kind of time, might become noisier / warmer, etc. as the components wear out. That model should even after 3-4 years be able to power a pretty light system but I would be wary of going too close to the 360w, something like i5 2400 with 6850 might be fine, though. In general, yes, but with a second hand PSU you never know if it's already dead, or been straight up abused. And even a good PSU can occasionally accidentally take out other components. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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Shikyo
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GTX 670 review | ||
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Spec
Taiwan931 Posts
On May 05 2012 11:57 skyR wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 05 2012 11:35 Spec wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hey guys. I've wanting to stream for a while but I only have a dual core laptop. With the ivy bridge release I think it's a good time to build a desktop. I am not familiar with AMD graphics cards but I am open to it. I would prefer an intel core I think, and do want to get an after market CPU cooler. Looking to have 8g of ram. No liquid cooling. I would greatly appreciate if you guys can suggest a build! Don't want to be top of the line but don't want to be outdated by main stream games... Many thanks in advance. Might try to get things in bundles on NewEggs to save money. What is your budget? ~ $1000. I am trying to also fit a monitor so be gentle if going over. What is your resolution? 1920x1080. One monitor. What are you using it for? Streaming at most at 720p. Internet won't support 1080p for a while. SC3, D3, and some modern games but probably nothing too demanding at Extreme settings. What is your upgrade cycle? In college. Rather not upgrade any big components for at least 2-3 years. When do you plan on building it? Preferably this summer, anytime before September. But if there's something significant upcoming (big price drop, big releases) I can hold out. Do you plan on overclocking? I would like to have the option. But only stable OC on air. Do you need an Operating System? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. I don't think I need it. I've read that it's not worth it to get a MoBo that does SLI but not use it. Where are you buying your parts from? I predict mostly online. $878 before mail in rebates: Intel Core i5 3570k @ $234 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70541 Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1368 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $53 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1018 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1018 MSI Z77A-G43 @ $115 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130646 Western Digital Caviar Blue & DVD Burner @ $83 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936994 Crucial M4 128gb @ $125 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442 Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 MSI GTX 460 @ $140 ($100 after mail in rebate) http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1781467 Thank you God. | ||
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wallet
United States11 Posts
budget: 250, he's starting grad school soon so he's cheap as hell does not need: monitor, mouse, keyboard, case, psu, windows 7 we live near a microcenter and a frys so local is ideal, but i dont mind buying from newegg or amazon, or ncix are these good picks? cpu: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0325874 - 90 motherboard: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0366104 - 20, bundle deal with cpu dvd burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244 - 16 ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231421 - 20 hard drive: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0334293 - 75 are the segate hybrid drives any good? he complains about boot time, but has expressed that managing 2 drives is beyond him so ssd+hdd is probably out of the question. thanks in advanced! | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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thisisnotralph
United States101 Posts
 wasn't too bad overall. It is really really quiet which makes me nervous; It has two case fans, and the 6950 was reviewed to be loud, but mine is essentially silent. I can't tell if its on or not unless I look at the LED/monitor. anyway, is there a general free software suite that can benchmark/evaluate my build to make sure it's running correctly and efficiently? i.e. test temperatures, graphics performance, etc? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 06 2012 05:30 thisisnotralph wrote: so my computer is all built and running wasn't too bad overall. It is really really quiet which makes me nervous; It has two case fans, and the 6950 was reviewed to be loud, but mine is essentially silent. I can't tell if its on or not unless I look at the LED/monitor. anyway, is there a general free software suite that can benchmark/evaluate my build to make sure it's running correctly and efficiently? i.e. test temperatures, graphics performance, etc? What was the build again? By the way, just checking, but most early graphics card reviews are for the original reference-design card / cooling solution. Most reference design coolers for higher-end graphics cards are loud. Most graphics cards sold after the first few months use custom designs and different cooling designs which may be much quieter; a review for a different product than the one you have is not particularly relevant. Get something like HWMonitor to check temperatures, leave it open, and run 3DMark11 or something like that. That is a reasonable stress on the system to somewhat test stability and temperatures, and it also gives you a benchmark score, which you can compare with what you're supposed to get based on the hardware you're running. If you really want you could also run such things as IntelBurnTest, SuperPI, Cinebench, FurMark, Unigine Heaven, etc. | ||
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