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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 02:34:23
May 05 2012 02:34 GMT
#21441
On May 05 2012 11:33 thisisnotralph wrote:
thats what i thought but then for some reason i thought if i was cross firing, then wouldn't it only be taking one of the two? either way, moot point. thanks.


If you were doing CrossfireX 6950, you would need four 6pin PCI-E connectors.
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 02:36:07
May 05 2012 02:35 GMT
#21442
Hey guys. I've wanting to stream for a while but I only have a dual core laptop. With the ivy bridge release I think it's a good time to build a desktop. I am not familiar with AMD graphics cards but I am open to it. I would prefer an intel core I think, and do want to get an after market CPU cooler. Looking to have 8g of ram. No liquid cooling. I would greatly appreciate if you guys can suggest a build! Don't want to be top of the line but don't want to be outdated by main stream games... Many thanks in advance. Might try to get things in bundles on NewEggs to save money.


What is your budget?
~ $1000. I am trying to also fit a monitor so be gentle if going over.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080. One monitor.

What are you using it for?
Streaming at most at 720p. Internet won't support 1080p for a while. SC3, D3, and some modern games but probably nothing too demanding at Extreme settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?
In college. Rather not upgrade any big components for at least 2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Preferably this summer, anytime before September. But if there's something significant upcoming (big price drop, big releases) I can hold out.

Do you plan on overclocking?
I would like to have the option. But only stable OC on air.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No. I don't think I need it. I've read that it's not worth it to get a MoBo that does SLI but not use it.


Where are you buying your parts from?
I predict mostly online.

Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 05 2012 02:57 GMT
#21443
On May 05 2012 11:35 Spec wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys. I've wanting to stream for a while but I only have a dual core laptop. With the ivy bridge release I think it's a good time to build a desktop. I am not familiar with AMD graphics cards but I am open to it. I would prefer an intel core I think, and do want to get an after market CPU cooler. Looking to have 8g of ram. No liquid cooling. I would greatly appreciate if you guys can suggest a build! Don't want to be top of the line but don't want to be outdated by main stream games... Many thanks in advance. Might try to get things in bundles on NewEggs to save money.


What is your budget?
~ $1000. I am trying to also fit a monitor so be gentle if going over.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080. One monitor.

What are you using it for?
Streaming at most at 720p. Internet won't support 1080p for a while. SC3, D3, and some modern games but probably nothing too demanding at Extreme settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?
In college. Rather not upgrade any big components for at least 2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Preferably this summer, anytime before September. But if there's something significant upcoming (big price drop, big releases) I can hold out.

Do you plan on overclocking?
I would like to have the option. But only stable OC on air.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No. I don't think I need it. I've read that it's not worth it to get a MoBo that does SLI but not use it.


Where are you buying your parts from?
I predict mostly online.


$878 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 3570k @ $234
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70541

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1368

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $53
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1018

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1018

MSI Z77A-G43 @ $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130646

Western Digital Caviar Blue & DVD Burner @ $83
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936994

Crucial M4 128gb @ $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

MSI GTX 460 @ $140 ($100 after mail in rebate)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1781467
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 05 2012 03:08 GMT
#21444
On May 05 2012 11:57 skyR wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On May 05 2012 11:35 Spec wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys. I've wanting to stream for a while but I only have a dual core laptop. With the ivy bridge release I think it's a good time to build a desktop. I am not familiar with AMD graphics cards but I am open to it. I would prefer an intel core I think, and do want to get an after market CPU cooler. Looking to have 8g of ram. No liquid cooling. I would greatly appreciate if you guys can suggest a build! Don't want to be top of the line but don't want to be outdated by main stream games... Many thanks in advance. Might try to get things in bundles on NewEggs to save money.


What is your budget?
~ $1000. I am trying to also fit a monitor so be gentle if going over.

What is your resolution?
1920x1080. One monitor.

What are you using it for?
Streaming at most at 720p. Internet won't support 1080p for a while. SC3, D3, and some modern games but probably nothing too demanding at Extreme settings.

What is your upgrade cycle?
In college. Rather not upgrade any big components for at least 2-3 years.

When do you plan on building it?
Preferably this summer, anytime before September. But if there's something significant upcoming (big price drop, big releases) I can hold out.

Do you plan on overclocking?
I would like to have the option. But only stable OC on air.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No. I don't think I need it. I've read that it's not worth it to get a MoBo that does SLI but not use it.


Where are you buying your parts from?
I predict mostly online.


$878 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 3570k @ $234
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70541

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1368

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $53
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1018

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1018

MSI Z77A-G43 @ $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130646

Western Digital Caviar Blue & DVD Burner @ $83
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936994

Crucial M4 128gb @ $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

MSI GTX 460 @ $140 ($100 after mail in rebate)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1781467

You can get 8gb of 1600 ram for 99c more.

Patriot signature 8GB (2x4GB) 1.5v 1600mhz $40.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220569
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Drazon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States4 Posts
May 05 2012 03:47 GMT
#21445
On May 05 2012 04:29 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 03:31 Drazon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys, I've given up on trying to make laptops work for serious gaming. I have a full time job with great hours and I think it's time to invest the time/money into building my first desktop. I'm on a pretty tight deadline, and if it comes to it I'll just buy a shitty premade that will just barely play D3 and upgrade it over time.

Approximate Purchase Date: before or around D3 release (May 15th)

Budget Range: up to 2k USD, but i'd prefer around 1k

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming

Parts Not Required: keyboard and mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: nothing sketchy

Country: america

Parts Preferences: none

Overclocking: maybe/yes in the future

SLI or Crossfire: what

Monitor Resolution: big enough

Additional Comments:
-i'm thinking a case that has a lot of potential for future upgrades (when i get paid)
-also thinking i7 instead of i5
-i'd prefer a quieter desktop, but not a deal breaker
-apparently we can't have our own threads


There's a billion ways to put together a configuration between $1000 and $2000.

A core i7 is useless for gaming as games do not take advantage of hyperthreading provided by it.

Corsair 550D is a sound-dampening case, less expensive ones include Antec P280 and Fractal Design Define R3.

I assume you need a monitor...? So either a 120Hz monitor for $400+ or a U2312HM for ~$230 or Eyefinity setup or 2560x1440 / 2560x1600.

This is $1428:

Intel Core i5 3570k @ $234
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70541

MSI Z77A-GD55 @ $160
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=69232

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1368

Corsair 550D @ $135
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66726

Noctua NH-D14 @ $85
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=47090

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $70
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1018

DVD Burner @ $17
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597

Crucial M4 256gb @ $200 << HOT!! (don't know how long this will stay in stock or on sale)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443

Sapphire Dual-X Radeon HD7870 @ $350
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102981

Corsair AX650 @ $137
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00539M628/


Thank you, good sir!
thisisnotralph
Profile Joined April 2012
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 04:14:34
May 05 2012 04:13 GMT
#21446
is it necessary to use every hole in the motherboard? my case has 6 hex standoffs that correspond with my mobo, leaving one hole that isn't screwed (it isn't a corner hole, it's near the pci-e slot), but I don't have a hex screwdriver to remove the other brass standoffs (they are already screwed in tightly in holes not near my mobo). the only standoffs are the ones screwed in already, so i have to unscrew one of the used ones and relocate it.

That probably made no sense but it's the best i can explain, i guess.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
May 05 2012 04:46 GMT
#21447
you dont have to fill every hole, just make it so its steady and rigid.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 05 2012 04:48 GMT
#21448
Hi, I picked out these parts with my already existing motherboard, could you please check if they are all compatible?

mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131647
GPU: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=67951&vpn=H795F3G2M&manufacture=HIS&promoid=1018
CPU: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64404&vpn=FD8150FRGUBOX&manufacture=AMD&promoid=1018
RAM: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57078&vpn=CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9&manufacture=Corsair

How much supply would I need?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 05 2012 04:52 GMT
#21449
Your board does not support Bulldozer.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 05 2012 04:54 GMT
#21450
Thank you so much skyr responses are so fast damn!

Could you recommend me a cpu that fits my board and has enough horsepower to max out every games? Thanks a lot dude!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 05 2012 04:57 GMT
#21451
What is your existing CPU? Upgrading from an Athlon II to a Phenom II isn't going to gain you any noticeable difference in gaming. If you're upgrading from a first generation Phenom than any Phenom II for ~$100 will do.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 05 2012 04:58 GMT
#21452
thanks dude, currently my cpu's pretty damn sad
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 05 2012 05:00 GMT
#21453
If gaming is your only concern. Honestly it'd be better to buy a h61 and core i3 which would equate to the same price as the Bulldozer you originally planned to get.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 05 2012 05:03 GMT
#21454
Ya but my mobo doesn't support intel cpus . I had an athlon x2, will an x6 fit my mobo?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 05 2012 05:06 GMT
#21455
Your motherboard supports all second generation Phenom processors. An X6 is pointless for gaming though since most games only use two cores and very few use four.

That's why I mentioned getting a H61 (which is a motherboard) along with the i3.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 05 2012 05:09 GMT
#21456
but is i3 going to be enough for those demanding games like bf3, crysis? sorry i'm very super comp noob
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 05:17:22
May 05 2012 05:16 GMT
#21457
Battlefield 3, Crysis, and most other demanding games are all GPU dependent. Regardless if you have a $1000 core i7 or a $100 core i3, they'll perform nearly identical.

i3 is a far superior choice than an X6 for gaming...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=203 and dozens of others are available.
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 05 2012 05:22 GMT
#21458
dude, thanks man i'll have a look into the i3's
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 05 2012 05:43 GMT
#21459
hey skyr sorry for being a pain in the ass real sorry dude but could you help me out one last time?
i have nowhere else to ask lol :D

are these parts compatible? and is 700 w good enough??

cpu:
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57014&vpn=HDE00ZFBGRBOX&manufacture=AMD&promoid=1130
psu:
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=35456&vpn=OCZ700MXSP&manufacture=OCZ Technology

thanks for helping a fellow nerd out
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 05 2012 05:49 GMT
#21460
700w is unnecessary. OCZ ModXStream Pro also isn't a good choice and it's overpriced.

1100T is no longer produced and also a very stupid purchase at $210.
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