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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
May 04 2012 15:36 GMT
#21421
Wait a sec. I didn't even realize one was SATA2 while the other was SATA3 because it makes no difference for hard drives. The SATA2 interface can transmit data way faster than any of these mechanical hard drives can actually read and write data from and to the platters. SATA3 is faster, but it doesn't make a difference.

Models with SATA3 interfaces tend to be newer and maybe have more modern, dense platters that result in slightly higher performance, but Spinpoint F3 already uses 500GB platters I think. You're just getting a single platter on both of those drives.
britso
Profile Joined March 2011
England4 Posts
May 04 2012 16:04 GMT
#21422
So the Hard drives are basically the same performance wise? The only difference would be in the price, nothing now, but the SATA 3 would be £40 more after the sale. If I can buy in the sale I'll go for the SATA 3 then, but if not, the SATA 2 will be just as good.
Remember to always travel in single file to disguise your numbers
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
May 04 2012 17:58 GMT
#21423
For anyoen gettinga SSD, Newegg is having an amazing sale on 256gb CRucial M4's: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3332167&SID=u00000687

$.78/GB is an AMAZING price for this good of a SSD.
Drazon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 03:46:27
May 04 2012 18:31 GMT
#21424
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 04 2012 18:32 GMT
#21425
Your post has no content at all so why would you deserve your own thread?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 19:33:31
May 04 2012 19:29 GMT
#21426
On May 05 2012 03:31 Drazon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys, I've given up on trying to make laptops work for serious gaming. I have a full time job with great hours and I think it's time to invest the time/money into building my first desktop. I'm on a pretty tight deadline, and if it comes to it I'll just buy a shitty premade that will just barely play D3 and upgrade it over time.

Approximate Purchase Date: before or around D3 release (May 15th)

Budget Range: up to 2k USD, but i'd prefer around 1k

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming

Parts Not Required: keyboard and mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: nothing sketchy

Country: america

Parts Preferences: none

Overclocking: maybe/yes in the future

SLI or Crossfire: what

Monitor Resolution: big enough

Additional Comments:
-i'm thinking a case that has a lot of potential for future upgrades (when i get paid)
-also thinking i7 instead of i5
-i'd prefer a quieter desktop, but not a deal breaker
-apparently we can't have our own threads


There's a billion ways to put together a configuration between $1000 and $2000.

A core i7 is useless for gaming as games do not take advantage of hyperthreading provided by it.

Corsair 550D is a sound-dampening case, less expensive ones include Antec P280 and Fractal Design Define R3.

I assume you need a monitor...? So either a 120Hz monitor for $400+ or a U2312HM for ~$230 or Eyefinity setup or 2560x1440 / 2560x1600.

This is $1428:

Intel Core i5 3570k @ $234
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=70541

MSI Z77A-GD55 @ $160
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=69232

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1368

Corsair 550D @ $135
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66726

Noctua NH-D14 @ $85
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=47090

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $70
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1018

DVD Burner @ $17
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597

Crucial M4 256gb @ $200 << HOT!! (don't know how long this will stay in stock or on sale)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443

Sapphire Dual-X Radeon HD7870 @ $350
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102981

Corsair AX650 @ $137
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00539M628/
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
May 04 2012 20:05 GMT
#21427
On May 05 2012 02:58 ensign_lee wrote:
For anyoen gettinga SSD, Newegg is having an amazing sale on 256gb CRucial M4's: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3332167&SID=u00000687

$.78/GB is an AMAZING price for this good of a SSD.


Strange, we also just got the same crazy prize for the same drive on sale in sweden http://cdon.se/hemelektronik/crucial_m4_256gb_ssd_r:500%2fw:260_2.5"_sata-3-18943385
I'm sitting beside one right now .

So now I have an Agility 3, Vertex 2, Octane S2 and Crucial M4 for my next computer. My quest for SSDs is soon complete...
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
May 04 2012 20:07 GMT
#21428
On May 05 2012 05:05 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 02:58 ensign_lee wrote:
For anyoen gettinga SSD, Newegg is having an amazing sale on 256gb CRucial M4's: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3332167&SID=u00000687

$.78/GB is an AMAZING price for this good of a SSD.


Strange, we also just got the same crazy prize for the same drive on sale in sweden http://cdon.se/hemelektronik/crucial_m4_256gb_ssd_r:500%2fw:260_2.5"_sata-3-18943385
I'm sitting beside one right now .

So now I have an Agility 3, Vertex 2, Octane S2 and Crucial M4 for my next computer. My quest for SSDs is soon complete...


in france samsung 830 on insane sale too (hd6950 can even be found at like 180 euros rofl, gtx560ti 448 for not even 200, wtf are with these prices?)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
May 04 2012 20:51 GMT
#21429
obviously the world is ending in a few months so they have to gain as much profit as possible.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
OneBaseKing
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Afghanistan412 Posts
May 04 2012 22:14 GMT
#21430
How much VRAM will I need if I want to play all games on maxed settings on 1680x1050 resolution?
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
May 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#21431
VRAM doesn't mean anything, you'll probably be looking at an hd6850 or 6870 tough for that resolution
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 04 2012 22:41 GMT
#21432
On May 05 2012 07:14 bbrian wrote:
How much VRAM will I need if I want to play all games on maxed settings on 1680x1050 resolution?

1GB should be fine for nearly everything, 1.5 - 2gb might be worth consideration to be safe but generally at that resolution a 1gb card won't be vram-capped
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 04 2012 22:50 GMT
#21433
On May 05 2012 05:05 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 02:58 ensign_lee wrote:
For anyoen gettinga SSD, Newegg is having an amazing sale on 256gb CRucial M4's: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=3332167&SID=u00000687

$.78/GB is an AMAZING price for this good of a SSD.


Strange, we also just got the same crazy prize for the same drive on sale in sweden http://cdon.se/hemelektronik/crucial_m4_256gb_ssd_r:500%2fw:260_2.5"_sata-3-18943385
I'm sitting beside one right now .

So now I have an Agility 3, Vertex 2, Octane S2 and Crucial M4 for my next computer. My quest for SSDs is soon complete...



same here ,saw a 128gb m4 for 94€ a day ago. paid the same price for my 64gb one like 3 months ago
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 23:30:19
May 04 2012 22:59 GMT
#21434
On May 05 2012 07:14 bbrian wrote:
How much VRAM will I need if I want to play all games on maxed settings on 1680x1050 resolution?


im running 768mb vram (note:with that resolution) and it doesn't cap in any game that I know of. Maybe BF3@Ultra, but VRAM is generally overmarketed.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
May 04 2012 23:07 GMT
#21435
On May 05 2012 07:14 bbrian wrote:
How much VRAM will I need if I want to play all games on maxed settings on 1680x1050 resolution?


put together new build yesterday including a 1.25gb 560ti 448 which runs bf3 at all ultra(4xmsaa/16xaf etc) with 45-65 fps.

considering bf3 wants much more of evrything then the average game i doubt youll run into vram problems anytime soon with the normal 1gb +-
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
May 05 2012 01:49 GMT
#21436
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 04 2012 10:44 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 09:06 Eben wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Computer Build Help!

Hey guys,
I am looking to build a computer for around 700 dollars (I do not need a monitor, mouse or keyboard)

For my resolution I don't usually mind using a smaller one like 1024 × 768.

I will be using it only for gaming. I have a laptop already that takes care of all of my school work and other such things. I would like to play most current games on medium-high settings, and still be able to play games that are being released in the near future at decent settings. I have always played most games on the very lowest settings possible and would love to have a chance to see them at something a little higher!

I will be willing to upgrade it as early as 6 months in and no later than a year after building it

I plan on building it within the next 6 weeks

Overlocking is something that I would possibly look into, but not a deal breaker.

I will need to get an operating system, but that does not need to factor into the cost

I have no plans to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire

I would like to purchase my parts from newegg, but would be open to other websites as well. I live in the United States

I am not a super computer noob, and I feel like I will be able to handle constructing this myself. I have many friends who have built computers before, so if I need help I will be able to get it. The key thing is I want something that will be decent/good (not the end all be all of gaming though) and will be able to be upgraded easily in the future. I would prefer to not have to upgrade the motherboard/cpu if possible and would like a combo that will last for while. I would not mind upgraded the memory and graphics cards.

I will also say that harddrive space is not a massive concern of mine, I will get a 2nd one if I feel the need but I have always managed fine on 500gigs or less.

If anyone is willing to help me get started on this summer project it would be much appreciated!


Two CPU choices. The 3450 is ~5-10% faster than the 2400.
+ Show Spoiler [i5-3450&H77 $284] +

i5-3450 $199.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116506
ASRock H77M $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303

+ Show Spoiler [i5-2400&H67 $267] +

i5-2400 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
ASRock H67M (B3) $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157233

Ram: Pareema 4GB (2x2GB) $19.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003
OR Pareema 8GB (2x4GB) $37.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006
GPU: EVGA GTX 460 144.99 ($119.99AMIR expires 5/15) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130749
HDD&DVD burner: Western Digital Blue 500GB 7200RPM & LITE-ON SATA DVD Burner $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936987
Case: Rosewill Challenger Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower $39.99 with promo code EMCNENJ38 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
PSU: Corsair CX430v2 $44.99 (34.99AMIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Total: $602-637 Plus Shipping BEFORE Mail in Rebates.

This will run Everything you said on max at 1080p/Ultra and I would choose the 3450 over the 2400 and use the saved money for a new 16x9 monitor eventually.


Thanks a ton! I think I will go with this
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 05 2012 02:05 GMT
#21437
On May 05 2012 10:49 Eben wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 04 2012 10:44 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 09:06 Eben wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Computer Build Help!

Hey guys,
I am looking to build a computer for around 700 dollars (I do not need a monitor, mouse or keyboard)

For my resolution I don't usually mind using a smaller one like 1024 × 768.

I will be using it only for gaming. I have a laptop already that takes care of all of my school work and other such things. I would like to play most current games on medium-high settings, and still be able to play games that are being released in the near future at decent settings. I have always played most games on the very lowest settings possible and would love to have a chance to see them at something a little higher!

I will be willing to upgrade it as early as 6 months in and no later than a year after building it

I plan on building it within the next 6 weeks

Overlocking is something that I would possibly look into, but not a deal breaker.

I will need to get an operating system, but that does not need to factor into the cost

I have no plans to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire

I would like to purchase my parts from newegg, but would be open to other websites as well. I live in the United States

I am not a super computer noob, and I feel like I will be able to handle constructing this myself. I have many friends who have built computers before, so if I need help I will be able to get it. The key thing is I want something that will be decent/good (not the end all be all of gaming though) and will be able to be upgraded easily in the future. I would prefer to not have to upgrade the motherboard/cpu if possible and would like a combo that will last for while. I would not mind upgraded the memory and graphics cards.

I will also say that harddrive space is not a massive concern of mine, I will get a 2nd one if I feel the need but I have always managed fine on 500gigs or less.

If anyone is willing to help me get started on this summer project it would be much appreciated!


Two CPU choices. The 3450 is ~5-10% faster than the 2400.
+ Show Spoiler [i5-3450&H77 $284] +

i5-3450 $199.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116506
ASRock H77M $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303

+ Show Spoiler [i5-2400&H67 $267] +

i5-2400 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
ASRock H67M (B3) $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157233

Ram: Pareema 4GB (2x2GB) $19.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003
OR Pareema 8GB (2x4GB) $37.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006
GPU: EVGA GTX 460 144.99 ($119.99AMIR expires 5/15) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130749
HDD&DVD burner: Western Digital Blue 500GB 7200RPM & LITE-ON SATA DVD Burner $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936987
Case: Rosewill Challenger Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower $39.99 with promo code EMCNENJ38 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
PSU: Corsair CX430v2 $44.99 (34.99AMIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Total: $602-637 Plus Shipping BEFORE Mail in Rebates.

This will run Everything you said on max at 1080p/Ultra and I would choose the 3450 over the 2400 and use the saved money for a new 16x9 monitor eventually.


Thanks a ton! I think I will go with this


PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 400 for $50 ($30 after mail in rebate) is like way better than the CX430v2: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65317&promoid=1018

MSI for $100 after mail in rebate: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1781467 or same EVGA for $5 less and no dumb shipping cost: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1742651
thisisnotralph
Profile Joined April 2012
United States101 Posts
May 05 2012 02:30 GMT
#21438
so this may be the dumbest question ever, but if my PSU (OCZ ZS 550w) has 2xPCI-E connectors (one with an extra two pin connector?), and my Radeon 6950 has connectors for two 6 pins, do i plug both of the 6 pin PCI-E connectors into it? or just one? and if both, then do I just leave the extra two pin hanging around?

yes, i am borderline retarded.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 05 2012 02:32 GMT
#21439
You plug both into it, you leave the extra 2 from the 6+2pin hanging.
thisisnotralph
Profile Joined April 2012
United States101 Posts
May 05 2012 02:33 GMT
#21440
thats what i thought but then for some reason i thought if i was cross firing, then wouldn't it only be taking one of the two? either way, moot point. thanks.
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