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So you didn't install the heatsink correctly.
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For the record, the CPU cooler not being installed right, during 3dmark's initialization, is probably what's causing the freezes.
It does some quick testing type shit while launching, IIRC...
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On May 06 2012 08:37 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 08:34 thisisnotralph wrote:On May 06 2012 05:44 Myrmidon wrote:On May 06 2012 05:30 thisisnotralph wrote:so my computer is all built and running  wasn't too bad overall. It is really really quiet which makes me nervous; It has two case fans, and the 6950 was reviewed to be loud, but mine is essentially silent. I can't tell if its on or not unless I look at the LED/monitor. anyway, is there a general free software suite that can benchmark/evaluate my build to make sure it's running correctly and efficiently? i.e. test temperatures, graphics performance, etc? What was the build again? By the way, just checking, but most early graphics card reviews are for the original reference-design card / cooling solution. Most reference design coolers for higher-end graphics cards are loud. Most graphics cards sold after the first few months use custom designs and different cooling designs which may be much quieter; a review for a different product than the one you have is not particularly relevant. Get something like HWMonitor to check temperatures, leave it open, and run 3DMark11 or something like that. That is a reasonable stress on the system to somewhat test stability and temperatures, and it also gives you a benchmark score, which you can compare with what you're supposed to get based on the hardware you're running. If you really want you could also run such things as IntelBurnTest, SuperPI, Cinebench, FurMark, Unigine Heaven, etc. my build is: i5-3750k asrock pro4 2x4 gskill sapphire radeon 6950 stupid 3dmark11 won't work for some reason. every time i try to start it, it freezes my computer? reinstalled and tried 4+ times now so i've given up, i guess there's some compatibility issues somewhere. On May 06 2012 05:59 JingleHell wrote:On May 06 2012 05:44 Myrmidon wrote:On May 06 2012 05:30 thisisnotralph wrote:so my computer is all built and running wasn't too bad overall. It is really really quiet which makes me nervous; It has two case fans, and the 6950 was reviewed to be loud, but mine is essentially silent. I can't tell if its on or not unless I look at the LED/monitor. anyway, is there a general free software suite that can benchmark/evaluate my build to make sure it's running correctly and efficiently? i.e. test temperatures, graphics performance, etc? What was the build again? By the way, just checking, but most early graphics card reviews are for the original reference-design card / cooling solution. Most reference design coolers for higher-end graphics cards are loud. Most graphics cards sold after the first few months use custom designs and different cooling designs which may be much quieter; a review for a different product than the one you have is not particularly relevant. Get something like HWMonitor to check temperatures, leave it open, and run 3DMark11 or something like that. That is a reasonable stress on the system to somewhat test stability and temperatures, and it also gives you a benchmark score, which you can compare with what you're supposed to get based on the hardware you're running. If you really want you could also run such things as IntelBurnTest, SuperPI, Cinebench, FurMark, Unigine Heaven, etc. Eh, unless you have the retail version, 3dmark is bad for testing temps, since you can't loop tests, and the scenes are short and separated. Anyways, for thermals, I usually run all but one thread on P95, with furmark. Furmark may be over the top, but if you don't melt doing that, you're golden for anything else. so i ran the p95 "combo" test? or whatever that is. and after 20 seconds or so my temps were up to around 90c before i freaked out and stopped the test. i'm not OC'ing and i'm on stock heatsink. is that good? bad? or really tells me nothing because i ran the wrong test or have the wrong hardware? It means you either didn't install your CPU cooler properly, put on too much thermal paste, or didn't install a CPU cooler at all. I doubt 3dmark 11 has compatibility issues, but since some of it's tests include CPU stuff, good thing it didn't work.
well i didn't apply thermal paste, it's the stock cooler. not sure how i even could physically install it incorrectly, you place the cooler on top and just push it into place until the things lock in, right? any suggestions?
if it matters, the CPU runs at around 40-45c when i'm just browsing and shit, and while I'm playing SCII (ultra), it gets up to low to mid 70's.
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On May 06 2012 08:42 thisisnotralph wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2012 08:37 JingleHell wrote:On May 06 2012 08:34 thisisnotralph wrote:On May 06 2012 05:44 Myrmidon wrote:On May 06 2012 05:30 thisisnotralph wrote:so my computer is all built and running wasn't too bad overall. It is really really quiet which makes me nervous; It has two case fans, and the 6950 was reviewed to be loud, but mine is essentially silent. I can't tell if its on or not unless I look at the LED/monitor. anyway, is there a general free software suite that can benchmark/evaluate my build to make sure it's running correctly and efficiently? i.e. test temperatures, graphics performance, etc? What was the build again? By the way, just checking, but most early graphics card reviews are for the original reference-design card / cooling solution. Most reference design coolers for higher-end graphics cards are loud. Most graphics cards sold after the first few months use custom designs and different cooling designs which may be much quieter; a review for a different product than the one you have is not particularly relevant. Get something like HWMonitor to check temperatures, leave it open, and run 3DMark11 or something like that. That is a reasonable stress on the system to somewhat test stability and temperatures, and it also gives you a benchmark score, which you can compare with what you're supposed to get based on the hardware you're running. If you really want you could also run such things as IntelBurnTest, SuperPI, Cinebench, FurMark, Unigine Heaven, etc. my build is: i5-3750k asrock pro4 2x4 gskill sapphire radeon 6950 stupid 3dmark11 won't work for some reason. every time i try to start it, it freezes my computer? reinstalled and tried 4+ times now so i've given up, i guess there's some compatibility issues somewhere. On May 06 2012 05:59 JingleHell wrote:On May 06 2012 05:44 Myrmidon wrote:On May 06 2012 05:30 thisisnotralph wrote:so my computer is all built and running wasn't too bad overall. It is really really quiet which makes me nervous; It has two case fans, and the 6950 was reviewed to be loud, but mine is essentially silent. I can't tell if its on or not unless I look at the LED/monitor. anyway, is there a general free software suite that can benchmark/evaluate my build to make sure it's running correctly and efficiently? i.e. test temperatures, graphics performance, etc? What was the build again? By the way, just checking, but most early graphics card reviews are for the original reference-design card / cooling solution. Most reference design coolers for higher-end graphics cards are loud. Most graphics cards sold after the first few months use custom designs and different cooling designs which may be much quieter; a review for a different product than the one you have is not particularly relevant. Get something like HWMonitor to check temperatures, leave it open, and run 3DMark11 or something like that. That is a reasonable stress on the system to somewhat test stability and temperatures, and it also gives you a benchmark score, which you can compare with what you're supposed to get based on the hardware you're running. If you really want you could also run such things as IntelBurnTest, SuperPI, Cinebench, FurMark, Unigine Heaven, etc. Eh, unless you have the retail version, 3dmark is bad for testing temps, since you can't loop tests, and the scenes are short and separated. Anyways, for thermals, I usually run all but one thread on P95, with furmark. Furmark may be over the top, but if you don't melt doing that, you're golden for anything else. so i ran the p95 "combo" test? or whatever that is. and after 20 seconds or so my temps were up to around 90c before i freaked out and stopped the test. i'm not OC'ing and i'm on stock heatsink. is that good? bad? or really tells me nothing because i ran the wrong test or have the wrong hardware? It means you either didn't install your CPU cooler properly, put on too much thermal paste, or didn't install a CPU cooler at all. I doubt 3dmark 11 has compatibility issues, but since some of it's tests include CPU stuff, good thing it didn't work. well i didn't apply thermal paste, it's the stock cooler. not sure how i even could physically install it incorrectly, you place the cooler on top and just push it into place until the things lock in, right? any suggestions? if it matters, the CPU runs at around 40-45c when i'm just browsing and shit, and while I'm playing SCII (ultra), it gets up to low to mid 70's.
Why the hell would idle and light load temps matter?
And the stupidly over-"simple" design is WHY it's so easy to install the stupid piece of shit incorrectly. If it's not locked in properly, it's not seated well, if it's not seated well, poor thermal transfer, and if you overheat, shit breaks.
Re-mount that puppy. Or better yet, replace it with a decent cheap aftermarket cooler.
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ha if i knew they didn't matter, then i wouldn't have mentioned it obviously. .
i'll try remounting it, thank you.
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On May 06 2012 08:56 thisisnotralph wrote:
ha if i knew they didn't matter, then i wouldn't have mentioned it obviously. .
i'll try remounting it, thank you.
Yeah, idle and light loads don't mean much if anything that stresses your CPU puts it at serious risk of not working anymore.
It's like having a car get awesome gas mileage, as long as you never take it out of the parking lot.
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well f this, now i'm scared to run p95 to even test this damn thing.
i'm just going to order a hyper 212 and have a local guy install it and do stress tests for me to make sure everything is working correctly. i'm going to limit myself to dumbed down internet browsing and maybe some SCII until then.
boooooo.
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That's a clever choice right there.
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On May 06 2012 09:42 thisisnotralph wrote:
well f this, now i'm scared to run p95 to even test this damn thing.
i'm just going to order a hyper 212 and have a local guy install it and do stress tests for me to make sure everything is working correctly. i'm going to limit myself to dumbed down internet browsing and maybe some SCII until then.
boooooo.
Not a terrible decision. Given how those stupid mounting pins degrade pretty quickly, it's actually rather reasonable to do that if it doesn't seat right in one or two tries.
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just frustrating that i was this close to my first ever build being problem free. feel like a failure. guess I should put my PC building business on hold.
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On May 06 2012 09:51 thisisnotralph wrote:
just frustrating that i was this close to my first ever build being problem free. feel like a failure. guess I should put my PC building business on hold.
If that's the only problem you had, you're still way the hell ahead of the curve by standards of people who have problems. Give it a second try, and if it still doesn't work, carry through.
At least you didn't think you were supposed to use thermal paste to glue the heatsink on, no hardware required...
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Should have got an aftermarket heatsink to begin with? Better to do this now than later.
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Ya hindsights 20/20. I wasn't planning on overclocking right away (still don't at the moment) and was tight on cash so I skimped on it; but if something's wrong with the stock cooler, i might as well just upgrade right now.
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Trying to purchase a new laptop: Dell Inspiron I15N-2731BK with sandy bridge. Gonna swag the HDD with a SSD, main concern is whether or not i will take full advantage of the ssd that is sata iii. im having a hard time figuring out the chipset of this model with dell's search engine + google.
tl;dr - was wondering if all laptop chipsets that have sandy bridge in them support sata iii to take full advantage of ssd
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On May 06 2012 10:52 thisisnotralph wrote:
Ya hindsights 20/20. I wasn't planning on overclocking right away (still don't at the moment) and was tight on cash so I skimped on it; but if something's wrong with the stock cooler, i might as well just upgrade right now.
after all the problems i had/have with my phII955 stock cooler i dont think ill ever use one again. the difference in temps and noise is more then worth the 30-40 $/€ you gotta pay for a macho,mugen or whatever.
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Some don't. Either way it doesn't matter because an SSD running off SATA2 is going to be stupid fast compared to a hard disk anyway.
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Hi guys so i'm in need of a new computer and i would really like to build my own, but i'm a complete dimwit when it comes to all this.... (im a 16 y.o girl btw if that tells you anything lol) Anyways all help is greatly appreciated
What is your budget?
Well my parents said they would spend somewhere between $700-1000 for all the parts
What is your resolution?
not entirely sure what this means
What are you using it for?
Well I play alot of games like Lol, wow, Starcraft, Minecraft. And i also want to start doing online streaming as well.
What is your upgrade cycle?
Um I would say 3-4 years i think
When do you plan on building it?
In the next 3-4 weeks, mainly around the time of my birthday May 30
Do you plan on overclocking?
Don't no what this means either..
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not sure
Where are you buying your parts from?
Online preferably newegg and sites like that.
Again thank you to anyone that can help me
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Ask closer to when you're actually ordering, unless that's in the next few days, or else deals vanish and prices shift.
The question you dodged was about the monitor's native screen resolution. Would you be getting a new monitor as well? (If you spend closer to the $1000 level rather than the $700 level, that's easily possible in budget and may be worth it if your old one sucks, anyway.) If not, what's the old one?
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