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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 04:34:27
May 06 2012 04:30 GMT
#21521
On May 06 2012 12:17 Penelopee wrote:
Hi guys so i'm in need of a new computer and i would really like to build my own, but i'm a complete dimwit when it comes to all this.... (im a 16 y.o girl btw if that tells you anything lol) Anyways all help is greatly appreciated

What is your budget?
Well my parents said they would spend somewhere between $700-1000 for all the parts

What is your resolution?
not entirely sure what this means

What are you using it for?
Well I play alot of games like Lol, wow, Starcraft, Minecraft. And i also want to start doing online streaming as well.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Um I would say 3-4 years i think

When do you plan on building it?
In the next 3-4 weeks, mainly around the time of my birthday May 30

Do you plan on overclocking?
Don't no what this means either..

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not sure

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online preferably newegg and sites like that.

Again thank you to anyone that can help me

Building a computer isn't too difficult, you should be able to do it yourself/perhaps with the help of your dad if he's a computer person

I'd say that for you you'd be well off with your average generic 1080p monitor, especially as it'd need to fit that budget. You probably don't need a mechanical keyboard but a decent mouse should definitely be worth consideration.

As for the tower you'd want something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 HAF 912 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 Rosewill Capstone 450W 65$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116505 i5-3550 220$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138352 Biostar TZ77B 100$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006 8gb 1333 Pareema RAM 38$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161406 Radeon 7850 240$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936987 Caviar Blue 500Gb and DVD RW 85$

Total:
808$

Then you can buy some pretty cheap monitor like:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079

Note it's a pretty lazy build but it gives you some sort of an idea of what you'd probably want (And also deals come and go but this is a general framework) (Though I actually hate the processor and mobo and I personally would just go with i5 2400 and a h61 mobo and save like 80 -.-)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 04:54:53
May 06 2012 04:40 GMT
#21522
Now that basic IPS has basically been commoditized by eIPS I don't see much reason getting a 5ms TN screen. You can get same resolution eIPS screens for roughly the same price.

If you're worried about ghosting, TN panels actually don't do middle gradations that quickly. Hence why overdriven IPS monitors can be actually quite good for gaming these days; even unoverdriven IPS screens are a lot less worse than you expect in real life performance.

Honestly though, I'd cut down on the desktop parts simply because its not a particularly demanding system and dump most of it into a half decent screen. Desktop parts get old quick while a screen does not. You're going to spend 99% of the time staring at it so it might as well be decent.

I agree that a H61 board + i5 2400 is a better idea. I also think that a Capstone is not needed for such a system, especially since its not dirt cheap anymore. Something like a Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D is perfectly acceptable I would think.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 06 2012 05:31 GMT
#21523
Capstone is still dirt cheap, only $5 more than what it was originally going for but yes Earthwatts would be acceptable. Though I wonder why Newegg doesn't have the newer Earthwatts yet.
lecky
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1 Post
May 06 2012 07:12 GMT
#21524
As for the tower you'd want something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 HAF 912 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 Rosewill Capstone 450W 65$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116505 i5-3550 220$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138352 Biostar TZ77B 100$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006 8gb 1333 Pareema RAM 38$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161406 Radeon 7850 240$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936987 Caviar Blue 500Gb and DVD RW 85$

Total:
808$

Then you can buy some pretty cheap monitor like:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079



This is the build shikyo posted a few posts back, im just wondering if diablo 3 or ff14 would be playable medium or higher?
thanks
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 06 2012 07:20 GMT
#21525
should max them or at least come close enough
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
May 06 2012 07:57 GMT
#21526
Hey I couldnt see anything GPUs for the last couple of pages, so I'm gonna ask you guys.
I am gettin the i7 3770K (ye i know it's not that much better than a regular i7 2600k ) with 8 GB 1866 Mhz RAM (Corsair dominator GT) along with Asus Sabertooth Z77 mobo and 850 W Corsair PSU. I was wondering which GPU would go well with this setup? I've been looking at both AMD and nVidia's middle -> high end line up. The 680 GTX seems great but availability is low and it is a bit pricey...Radeon's 7970 seems to be almost as good as the GTX 680 for my purposes? Here is a benchmark resource comparing the GTX 680 and 7970:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/555?vs=508

I use the computer for streaming sc2, gaming, watching movies/streams (sc2 lol) and using video encoders for youtube vids.
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 06 2012 08:00 GMT
#21527
On May 06 2012 13:30 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2012 12:17 Penelopee wrote:
Hi guys so i'm in need of a new computer and i would really like to build my own, but i'm a complete dimwit when it comes to all this.... (im a 16 y.o girl btw if that tells you anything lol) Anyways all help is greatly appreciated

What is your budget?
Well my parents said they would spend somewhere between $700-1000 for all the parts

What is your resolution?
not entirely sure what this means

What are you using it for?
Well I play alot of games like Lol, wow, Starcraft, Minecraft. And i also want to start doing online streaming as well.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Um I would say 3-4 years i think

When do you plan on building it?
In the next 3-4 weeks, mainly around the time of my birthday May 30

Do you plan on overclocking?
Don't no what this means either..

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not sure

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online preferably newegg and sites like that.

Again thank you to anyone that can help me

Building a computer isn't too difficult, you should be able to do it yourself/perhaps with the help of your dad if he's a computer person

I'd say that for you you'd be well off with your average generic 1080p monitor, especially as it'd need to fit that budget. You probably don't need a mechanical keyboard but a decent mouse should definitely be worth consideration.

As for the tower you'd want something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 HAF 912 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 Rosewill Capstone 450W 65$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116505 i5-3550 220$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138352 Biostar TZ77B 100$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006 8gb 1333 Pareema RAM 38$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161406 Radeon 7850 240$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.936987 Caviar Blue 500Gb and DVD RW 85$

Total:
808$

Then you can buy some pretty cheap monitor like:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079

Note it's a pretty lazy build but it gives you some sort of an idea of what you'd probably want (And also deals come and go but this is a general framework) (Though I actually hate the processor and mobo and I personally would just go with i5 2400 and a h61 mobo and save like 80 -.-)


Any reason the CPU is a 3550? 3450 is $20 cheaper with 97% of the power. You also forgot to factor in an OS. An Z77 Mobo is unnecessary, a less expensive ($85) H77 mobo would work just as well. To be honest, for $65 a capstone 450W is over priced, considering you can get a CX430 for $44/34AMIR.

$284 compared to your $320

i5-3450 $199.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116506
ASRock H77M $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303

I'll post more when newegg loads (stupid 56k dialup!)
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 08:20:46
May 06 2012 08:02 GMT
#21528
On May 06 2012 16:57 SoniC_eu wrote:
Hey I couldnt see anything GPUs for the last couple of pages, so I'm gonna ask you guys.
I am gettin the i7 3770K (ye i know it's not that much better than a regular i7 2600k ) with 8 GB 1866 Mhz RAM (Corsair dominator GT) along with Asus Sabertooth Z77 mobo and 850 W Corsair PSU. I was wondering which GPU would go well with this setup? I've been looking at both AMD and nVidia's middle -> high end line up. The 680 GTX seems great but availability is low and it is a bit pricey...Radeon's 7970 seems to be almost as good as the GTX 680 for my purposes? Here is a benchmark resource comparing the GTX 680 and 7970:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/555?vs=508

I use the computer for streaming sc2, gaming, watching movies/streams (sc2 lol) and using video encoders for youtube vids.


You're worried about price of the GPU yet you're willing to blow cash of 1866mhz RAM and a Sabertooth motherboard.

Outside of a few tasks, there isn't any reason to get anything besides the cheapest 1.5V DDR3 RAM on the market. If you aren't going Crossfire/SLI (no mentions of 120hz monitors, 2560x1440, or Eyefinity/Surround), you only need a good 500W PSU and a rock standard LGA1155 motherboard that accepts overclocking.

On May 06 2012 14:31 skyR wrote:
Capstone is still dirt cheap, only $5 more than what it was originally going for but yes Earthwatts would be acceptable. Though I wonder why Newegg doesn't have the newer Earthwatts yet.


I vaguely remember the discounted price being cheaper than that before everyone started buying them. At that time, there was no reason to pick anything else because you'd be paying like $5 more than the discounted competition for a 80+ Gold PSU. At $65, I don't know if it can even be considered dirt cheap unless you really wanted a low wattage 80+ Gold PSU. Typically, low power/heat/stress systems like this don't really put much stress on the PSU so I can't see how its a bargain when $20 cheaper PSUs can do the job just as well without blowing up.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 09:23:34
May 06 2012 09:23 GMT
#21529
On May 06 2012 16:57 SoniC_eu wrote:
Hey I couldnt see anything GPUs for the last couple of pages, so I'm gonna ask you guys.
I am gettin the i7 3770K (ye i know it's not that much better than a regular i7 2600k ) with 8 GB 1866 Mhz RAM (Corsair dominator GT) along with Asus Sabertooth Z77 mobo and 850 W Corsair PSU. I was wondering which GPU would go well with this setup? I've been looking at both AMD and nVidia's middle -> high end line up. The 680 GTX seems great but availability is low and it is a bit pricey...Radeon's 7970 seems to be almost as good as the GTX 680 for my purposes? Here is a benchmark resource comparing the GTX 680 and 7970:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/555?vs=508

I use the computer for streaming sc2, gaming, watching movies/streams (sc2 lol) and using video encoders for youtube vids.

You obviously value your E-peen so how about Crossfire 7850's or 7870's? You have enough power and they would be generally in your price range.. In USD a GTX680/7970 is ~$500, while 2x7850's are ~$450 and 2x7870's are ~$600.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
spaZzNx-`
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 09:39:28
May 06 2012 09:31 GMT
#21530
Today when I booted up my PC I noticed my network card wasn't working, so I decided to take it off the PC and put it back on in another PCI slot. After that when I booted my PC up again, my monitor would not get a signal from the graphics card, which was working fine just before. I've tried taking it off and back on again, but no luck. I've made sure both DVI ports are secured but my monitor will still remain black. I'm pretty stumped- no idea what to do now T.T

Any help?
Thanks

EDIT: Graphics card is an HD6850 and the monitor is an Asus 22''
TeamLiquid fighting~ Gogo SlayerS Terrans!
.DrK
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada326 Posts
May 06 2012 09:59 GMT
#21531
i have a i3-2100 right now, is it worth upgrading to an ivy bridge just for the hell of it?

my rig:
i3-2100
MSI H61M-P21
Kingston 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM
Bitfenix Merc Alpha Steel Black ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair 400CX 400W Power Supply
Powercolor Radeon HD 6770
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
May 06 2012 10:15 GMT
#21532
On May 06 2012 18:59 .DrK wrote:
i have a i3-2100 right now, is it worth upgrading to an ivy bridge just for the hell of it?

my rig:
i3-2100
MSI H61M-P21
Kingston 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM
Bitfenix Merc Alpha Steel Black ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair 400CX 400W Power Supply
Powercolor Radeon HD 6770


Just for the hell of it...That is like saying PLEASE GIVE ME AN EXCUSE TO WASTE MONEY!


No don't unless your willing to spend 1k+ to notice a difference.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
razqt
Profile Joined May 2012
2 Posts
May 06 2012 13:07 GMT
#21533
Hey Guys. I'm looking to buy a new computer for Diablo 3. I was hoping that I could get some help here!


What is your budget?

$700-800.

What is your resolution?

1920x1080.

What are you using it for?

It will be used mostly for gaming. I might try streaming and video editing but nothing extreme.

What is your upgrade cycle?

1 year.

When do you plan on building it?

I would like to get this done before Diablo 3 comes out. xD

Do you plan on overclocking?

No.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes. But the budget I wrote down does not need to include the OS.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No.

Where are you buying your parts from?

New Egg.

Any help would be much appreciated!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
May 06 2012 17:46 GMT
#21534
On May 06 2012 18:59 .DrK wrote:
i have a i3-2100 right now, is it worth upgrading to an ivy bridge just for the hell of it?

my rig:
i3-2100
MSI H61M-P21
Kingston 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM
Bitfenix Merc Alpha Steel Black ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair 400CX 400W Power Supply
Powercolor Radeon HD 6770


You have a low end machine all around so pissing away money for nominal upgrades when you are too poor to afford major upgrades for the same price is very very silly.
twitch.tv/medrea
thisisnotralph
Profile Joined April 2012
United States101 Posts
May 06 2012 19:22 GMT
#21535
I've read some conflicting stuff online:

Which CPU temperature should I be paying attention to? "CPUTIN", or my actual core temperatures?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 06 2012 19:58 GMT
#21536
Conflicing info? You should always use core temp.
thisisnotralph
Profile Joined April 2012
United States101 Posts
May 06 2012 20:32 GMT
#21537
thank you.
notoXIDE
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 22:19:26
May 06 2012 21:50 GMT
#21538
I want to upgrade my CPU, Moother Board, Hard Drive and RAM
Here are my specs so far:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Motherboard: ASUS P5Q SE PLUS LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel

Processor: Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E6300 @ 2.80GHz, 2800 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)

RAM: 4GB DDR2

Video Card: NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti (1400x900 , 32bit 60hz) native resolution

Hard Drive: 127GB

Power Supply: 600w
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What is your budget?
$700-1000

What is your resolution?
1400x900 , 32bit 60hz

What are you using it for?
I will be using this computer for mostly gaming specifically the game "TERA". I would like to be able to play the game while using a video recording program and have several other applications open at the same time. (I am already playing TERA on medium graphics without a problem, except for freezes when i am in the main town with alot of people due to my CPU)

What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years i would like to have it for a while since the comp im using now i have had for 3 years or so.

When do you plan on building it?
in 1-2 weeks

Do you plan on overclocking?
does not matter to me

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
I can buy them online or from a retailer by me like Tiger Direct, Canada Computers, NCIX ect.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
May 06 2012 21:50 GMT
#21539
Okay so now that im finally working kinda stable im looking for a new pc to play a few games on(quite frankly partying is getting kinda boring and old)

What is your budget?
4-700 preferably.

What is your resolution?
Not real small but not too big, will probably use my current monitor which supports 1440x900 or something(widescreen)

What are you using it for?
League and WoW, Maybe some SC2, wouldn't mind being able to stream either

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4

When do you plan on building it?
Take about a month to a month and a half to have enough for all the parts

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Online
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 06 2012 22:16 GMT
#21540
On May 07 2012 06:50 notoXIDE wrote:
Hey guys I want to upgrade mainly my CPU, Motherboard and then my RAM and Hard Drive. I have a budget of about $700 CAD~. I will be using this computer for mostly gaming specifically the game "TERA". I would like to be able to play the game while using a video recording program and have several other applications open at the same time.

Here are my specs:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Motherboard: ASUS P5Q SE PLUS LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel

Processor: Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E6300 @ 2.80GHz, 2800 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)

RAM: 4GB DDR2

Video Card: NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti (1400x900 , 32bit 60hz) native resolution

Hard Drive: 127GB

Power Supply: 600w
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Let me know if there is anything you else you guys need me to add, and thanks for the help in advance

Tera is too heavy for that graphics card as well if you want something close to the highest quality. I personally would just go for an entirely new system
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