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Probe.
United States877 Posts
On August 02 2009 11:16 Assault_1 wrote: I always thought its a protoss with his mouth open.. I still don't see anything otherwise. what's it supposed to be? The bottom part of what you believe is his mouth is actually his neck. Thats Artanis from the main game and he actually has no visible mouth. Its just his head and neck showing. | ||
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dcttr66
United States555 Posts
On August 02 2009 12:42 Probe. wrote: The bottom part of what you believe is his mouth is actually his neck. Thats Artanis from the main game and he actually has no visible mouth. Its just his head and neck showing. nah, i think the part people think is is mouth is the shoulder...if the screen is small i can see how they'd think that, but when you load up the normal sized screen it's very obviously the shoulder. it's not the neck, the neck is most of what's below his head. | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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Probe.
United States877 Posts
On August 02 2009 12:54 dcttr66 wrote: nah, i think the part people think is is mouth is the shoulder...if the screen is small i can see how they'd think that, but when you load up the normal sized screen it's very obviously the shoulder. it's not the neck, the neck is most of what's below his head. Ah i see that makes more sense. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On August 02 2009 10:56 TerranGuy wrote: I don't think it's an issue of belief or disbelief at all. It's just a bad mechanic. This is how I feel about it. That, and the fact that they move like puppets on strings  | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
That, and the fact that they move like puppets on strings where do we see them in action again? just BR2? | ||
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wswordsmen
United States987 Posts
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KillForce
Sweden36 Posts
that being said, I do think as a lot of others that spawning terrans out of nowhere is too much. additionally, if I'm playing zerg, why would I want to spawn freaky humans. they could spawn something a lot cooler if the mechanic is needed. zergs have so much potential to look badass. | ||
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danieldrsa
Brazil523 Posts
There are numerous other things, like you pointed, as much ilogical as it. | ||
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United States1401 Posts
On August 02 2009 12:37 dcttr66 wrote: lol...what a ...censor the word... wow, i mean seriously...how can you not know what protoss don't have mouths? when you read the instruction book it says they don't talk! they communicate telepathically. they are all linked telepathically and they communicate that way. HOW COULD you think they would have mouths if they can't talk? anyway, interestingly enough, they don't look to have nostrils of any sort, furthermore, beaks go outward, the protoss look nothing like ducks. protoss are more like plants than birds. so it makes a lot of sense. i think they didn't explain it until the books were coming ou because it's just one of those things that doesn't sound cool in the game to introduce them...i mean you didn't have terrans going on about eating hamburgers or hotdogs or even drinking beer or whatever...so why talk about what the protoss were eating? of course it's entirely possible that this kindof rule will be eliminated with the new game, as it's supposed to be more immersive than the previous. certainly the previous game was quite the opposite of immersive, yet it was still good of course, and i'm referring to the story. another thing is the protoss never sounded like they were talking, they always sounded like they were...thinking loudly...like they do in tv shows and movies where it shows you what people are thinking...it sounds like that, not like talking... anyways you guys must have pretty bad eyes, it's obviously his shoulder and not part of any kind of lower jaw. so yeah, protoss don't have jaws. but hey, zerg do! So as to not derail the thread completely... 1. Yes spawn infested terrans is a retarded idea/spell. 2. you are not alone. The image has poor contrast, and yes it looks like a retarded mouth/duckbill. I have always thought that. | ||
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w00tm0nger
United States20 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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oBlade
United States5993 Posts
Also, I think Zerg units in space is covered by canon (Didn't the swarm take space-faring abilities from the creatures that Overlords used to be?) | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On August 02 2009 12:37 dcttr66 wrote: lol...what a ...censor the word... wow, i mean seriously...how can you not know what protoss don't have mouths? when you read the instruction book it says they don't talk! they communicate telepathically. they are all linked telepathically and they communicate that way. HOW COULD you think they would have mouths if they can't talk? anyway, interestingly enough, they don't look to have nostrils of any sort, furthermore, beaks go outward, the protoss look nothing like ducks. protoss are more like plants than birds. so it makes a lot of sense. i think they didn't explain it until the books were coming ou because it's just one of those things that doesn't sound cool in the game to introduce them...i mean you didn't have terrans going on about eating hamburgers or hotdogs or even drinking beer or whatever...so why talk about what the protoss were eating? of course it's entirely possible that this kindof rule will be eliminated with the new game, as it's supposed to be more immersive than the previous. certainly the previous game was quite the opposite of immersive, yet it was still good of course, and i'm referring to the story. another thing is the protoss never sounded like they were talking, they always sounded like they were...thinking loudly...like they do in tv shows and movies where it shows you what people are thinking...it sounds like that, not like talking... anyways you guys must have pretty bad eyes, it's obviously his shoulder and not part of any kind of lower jaw. so yeah, protoss don't have jaws. but hey, zerg do! Battle of the amerigo movie after Z's installation map is example of drinking beer?  And damn - most protoss cutscenes or outros show their faces, whoever thought that they have mouths slept during movies or what? on topic - Personally i don't care about infested terran's lore, i only hope it will be fun, balanced and all. But i dont like summonings too much too | ||
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Final_Judicator
Germany85 Posts
On July 31 2009 04:22 errol1001 wrote: Honestly, I really hate this ability. Even aside from the (very significant) logic gaps it poses, it's just a totally boring power. I don't want my casters to have powers that make my army bigger (if I want that, I'll build more army units). I want things like dark swarm, plague, psi storm.. not stupid summons. Summons.. just aren't interesting. I don't like it on the nighthawk /turret thing either. This is one of the big differences between starcraft and warcraft 3 for me (and a really bad one for wc3, in my opinion). What does your archmage do? Have some water elementals sitting out beside him all day. Not the far more interesting and cooler to see AND use blizzard. This. | ||
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JohnBall
Brazil1272 Posts
The current spell is bogus lore wise, looks too much like a Warcraft 3 Spell and is very uninteresting mechanicaly speaking. However, the idea behind a Infested Terran unit makes a lot of sense from the point of view of the story of Starcraft and the lore of the zerg race because zergs assimilate the DNA of other species and they have had extended contact with the human DNA. My own solution to this problem is scrapping that infestor spell, creating a unit called Terralisk or Terraling that could be spawned from larva requiring its own dedicated building, perhaps containing some upgrades for it. This unit could look like weaker versions of Kerrigan. The problem is that it is pretty difficult to imagine what role that unit could have in the zerg arsenal. The zerg arsenal already seems to have pretty much any role covered from the zergling to the ultra. Even the suicing bomb role is already filled. So maybe the Terralisk/ Terraling could be an intermediate melee unit between the zergling and the ultra; or a spellcaster with some cool spells, or even a semi worker unit wich could buid some stuff (no idea what kind of buildings though). I hope Blizzard reads this thread and starts brainstorming better ideas for the infested terrans. | ||
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Krikkitone
United States1451 Posts
The idea was to modify "Neural Parasite" Essentially change it so that the Neural Parasite duration depends on the food cost of the unit Lower Food cost=Longer duration (0 food cost units like Overseers/Overlords/temporary units/campaign heros should either not be infestable, or have a specific 'food cost') so that for Food cost<=1 the "Neural Parasite" is Permanent and actually Infests the unit (giving it Zerg regeneration if it is biological....possibly making it biological) and also disallow building abilities on an Infested unit This way the Infestation would not apply to Protoss (except probes+observers.. which could only gather+observe) As for a Gameplay replacement for "Spawn Infested Terrans" I think they should revisit the 'infesting buildings idea' with the following changes. 1. the 'infestation' doesn't affect the building in any way besides causing it to produce units (gameplay reasons, to keep it a pure "reinforcement", which allows it to be more easily used, as well as lore... the protoss buildings aren't actually 'infested'. Possibly it could stop Terran buildings from lifting off, since that adds a lot of complications) 2. apply to ALL buildings, Terran, Protoss, Zerg, defense/production/collecting, even Friendly buildings (exceptions=XelNaga buildings, Flying buildings, "Burrowed" buildings...like Creep Tumors) This keeps it more generally useful. 3. the units produced should be Zerg specific units, (ie Mantalings) so that [Lorewise] they are being created by the "infestation" rather than "infesting" units in the building.. which you can't do with Protoss. (also get a different name.. instead of an "infestation" in the building, the Infester is putting a "colony" there) 4. If the "colonized" building is destroyed, the "colony" is now an independent permanent spawning/defensive building (handle destroying the building like destroying a Bunker... the 'unit' inside is now exposed and can get attacked.... although in this case, the "unit" inside is no longer temporary, although it will need Creep to survive. | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On August 06 2009 01:13 JohnBall wrote: I think that the spell needs to be replaced BUT the infested terrans unit has to be recycled into something cool, let me explain further: The current spell is bogus lore wise, looks too much like a Warcraft 3 Spell and is very uninteresting mechanicaly speaking. However, the idea behind a Infested Terran unit makes a lot of sense from the point of view of the story of Starcraft and the lore of the zerg race because zergs assimilate the DNA of other species and they have had extended contact with the human DNA. Assuming that the developers like the idea of spawning a ranged unit I think that replacing Infested Terrans with Assimilated Terrans is the best way to go. By removing the armour and guns and make the unit entirely biological you avoid the awkward "zerg brought infested terrans to the planet invisibly" explaination. This will make the ability less confusing for new players and more enjoyable for people who dont like the idea of marines magically appearing. The Starcraft instruction manual tells that the Zerg discovered humanity and intended to assimilate them into the swarm to harnass their latent psychic potential. In keeping with this theme I propose replacing Infested Terrans with a new breed of Zerg/Terrans. These Assimilated Terrans could be engineered by Kerrigan to unleash the Terran psychic powers that have until now only been harnassed by ghosts. These Assimilated Terrans would have a powerful ranged psychic attack, perhaps similar to the one that Tassadar had in the caimpaign. However these new zerg creatures cannot control their power and are driven mad after a certain time on the battle field (Timed Life). As far as the model would look I think a male version of Kerrigan without wings would do nicely. Perhaps green lighting spouting from the eyes to indicate they are going mad. When their timed life runs out the head could explode. Since the Assimilated Terrans are grown in the Infestor and have a ranged and AA attack the only thing the developers would need to change is the lore and art. | ||
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ELESSAR
Bulgaria173 Posts
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