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Poll: Does Spawn Infested Terrans break your "Suspension of Disbelief"?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
We all know that video games have suspension of disbelief where the player accepts how the gameworks even if it doesnt make sense. Gameplay tends to be more important than realism. However, there is a level at which the situation is so noticable and illogical that the suspension of disbelief is broken. This interupts the players immersion and possibly enjoyment of the gameplay experience.
Dustin Browder has offered that the Infestor eats the Infested Marines and then spits them out. However, it is unclear what happens in the middle of a PvZ or ZvZ battle.
Personally, I can let allot of things slide. I can buy a ultralisk hatching out of a small egg, I can buy 10 marines taking down a battlecruiser. Heck I can even buy mutalisks flying in space. But having Infested terran appear in a battle where there were no terrans to infest completly breaks my suspension of disbelief. We did this poll over at SCLegacy and I think it would be interesting to see what TL thinks of the matter.
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Hey man, how do you know mutas can't fly in space.
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It isn't just the fact that there are marines on the field. Other races have been assimilated, humans should be no exception. The problem is that they come out guns blazing and in full armour. I can't believe this ability will survive beta.
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Oh yes. Regurgitating whole beings just makes my eyes become uneven. o_O?
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On July 31 2009 03:50 onmach wrote:
It isn't just the fact that there are marines on the field. Other races have been assimilated, humans should be no exception. The problem is that they come out guns blazing and in full armour. I can't believe this ability will survive beta.
Huh, aren't marines in bw like this? If it survived through 11 years of starcraft why would it die out in sc2 beta?
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On July 31 2009 04:13 Nightmarjoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 03:50 onmach wrote:
It isn't just the fact that there are marines on the field. Other races have been assimilated, humans should be no exception. The problem is that they come out guns blazing and in full armour. I can't believe this ability will survive beta. Huh, aren't marines in bw like this? If it survived through 11 years of starcraft why would it die out in sc2 beta?
Infested marines in BW come from infested terran buildings. Infested Marines in SC2 come from inside infestors bellies. The two explainations offered are that the infestor can eat invisible marines that you dont see on the battle field and that the infested marines are invisibly brought to the planet by some kind of zerg.and invisibly put into the infestor.
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Honestly, I really hate this ability. Even aside from the (very significant) logic gaps it poses, it's just a totally boring power. I don't want my casters to have powers that make my army bigger (if I want that, I'll build more army units). I want things like dark swarm, plague, psi storm.. not stupid summons.
Summons.. just aren't interesting. I don't like it on the nighthawk /turret thing either. This is one of the big differences between starcraft and warcraft 3 for me (and a really bad one for wc3, in my opinion). What does your archmage do? Have some water elementals sitting out beside him all day. Not the far more interesting and cooler to see AND use blizzard.
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Maybe those infestors ate Terrans beforehand
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I don't see why they Blizzard can't just replace it with a broodling type unit (melee, ranged, whatever) If it becomes a problem.
I agree with your point that it is too weird, but they could just replace the units with another zerg unit that looks like it could grow in an infestors belly and then pop out (with nearly equal statistics).
There is no real problem here, but I do agree that we should let blizzard know.
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On July 31 2009 04:17 Archerofaiur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 04:13 Nightmarjoo wrote:On July 31 2009 03:50 onmach wrote:
It isn't just the fact that there are marines on the field. Other races have been assimilated, humans should be no exception. The problem is that they come out guns blazing and in full armour. I can't believe this ability will survive beta. Huh, aren't marines in bw like this? If it survived through 11 years of starcraft why would it die out in sc2 beta? Infested marines in BW come from infested terran buildings. Infested Marines in SC2 come from inside infestors bellies. The two explainations offered are that the infestor can eat invisible marines that you dont see on the battle field and that the infested marines are invisibly brought to the planet by some kind of zerg.and invisibly put into the infestor.
I think I misunderstood his post entirely.
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On July 31 2009 04:22 AzureEye wrote:
Maybe those infestors ate Terrans beforehand
which wouldn't make sense, since you have to spawn them from larvae before you get the infestor. 
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On July 31 2009 04:22 errol1001 wrote:
Honestly, I really hate this ability. Even aside from the (very significant) logic gaps it poses, it's just a totally boring power. I don't want my casters to have powers that make my army bigger (if I want that, I'll build more army units). I want things like dark swarm, plague, psi storm.. not stupid summons.
Summons.. just aren't interesting. I don't like it on the nighthawk /turret thing either. This is one of the big differences between starcraft and warcraft 3 for me (and a really bad one for wc3, in my opinion). What does your archmage do? Have some water elementals sitting out beside him all day. Not the far more interesting and cooler to see AND use blizzard.
I couldnt agree with this more.
I also think that its a bit stupid that a creature that is spawned on the battlefield is also spawned with marines in his belly :|
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On July 31 2009 04:22 errol1001 wrote:
Honestly, I really hate this ability. Even aside from the (very significant) logic gaps it poses, it's just a totally boring power. I don't want my casters to have powers that make my army bigger (if I want that, I'll build more army units). I want things like dark swarm, plague, psi storm.. not stupid summons.
Summons.. just aren't interesting. I don't like it on the nighthawk /turret thing either. This is one of the big differences between starcraft and warcraft 3 for me (and a really bad one for wc3, in my opinion). What does your archmage do? Have some water elementals sitting out beside him all day. Not the far more interesting and cooler to see AND use blizzard.
Yeah I agree completely. Blizzard should really try and see if there is room for Dark Swarm in SC2, it's just such an interesting spell that creates a lot of crazy situations, consume also goes very well with the zerg I think.
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On July 31 2009 03:47 iPF[Div] wrote:
Hey man, how do you know mutas can't fly in space.
Theres no particles in space, so ordinary bat wings, or any kind of wing for that matter, would provide no propulsion at all in a vaccuum.
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On July 31 2009 04:52 Eishi_Ki wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 03:47 iPF[Div] wrote:
Hey man, how do you know mutas can't fly in space. Theres no particles in space, so ordinary bat wings, or any kind of wing for that matter, would provide no propulsion at all in a vaccuum.
Maybe the muta are just flapping their wings for show and are actually using some sort of gaseous expulsions to propel themselves. What do you say about that, huh?
And yeah, this ability is stupid and like WC3 lol let me summon a little poll that shoots at stuff
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On July 31 2009 04:24 ShaperofDreams wrote:
I don't see why they Blizzard can't just replace it with a broodling type unit (melee, ranged, whatever) If it becomes a problem.
I agree with your point that it is too weird, but they could just replace the units with another zerg unit that looks like it could grow in an infestors belly and then pop out (with nearly equal statistics).
There is no real problem here, but I do agree that we should let blizzard know.
This is what I'm hoping for, that they just replace the infested Terrans with some sort of Zerg creature instead makes more sense cause the whole infested Terran in a belly thing is just stupid.
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At least they improved the look of the infestor, it looks badass now, compared to its previous "Pear of salamanca" look.
What's really sad is that it doesnt really seem like an ability that will have much use. It had ONE niche use in the ZvT Battle Report, and then what, when am I going to use it instead of mindcontrolling?
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On July 31 2009 04:58 Fontong wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 04:52 Eishi_Ki wrote:On July 31 2009 03:47 iPF[Div] wrote:
Hey man, how do you know mutas can't fly in space. Theres no particles in space, so ordinary bat wings, or any kind of wing for that matter, would provide no propulsion at all in a vaccuum. Maybe the muta are just flapping their wings for show and are actually using some sort of gaseous expulsions to propel themselves. What do you say about that, huh?
they fart in space ...that is very gross
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On July 31 2009 05:31 UCD2 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 04:58 Fontong wrote:On July 31 2009 04:52 Eishi_Ki wrote:On July 31 2009 03:47 iPF[Div] wrote:
Hey man, how do you know mutas can't fly in space. Theres no particles in space, so ordinary bat wings, or any kind of wing for that matter, would provide no propulsion at all in a vaccuum. Maybe the muta are just flapping their wings for show and are actually using some sort of gaseous expulsions to propel themselves. What do you say about that, huh? they fart in space ...that is very gross
it´s not a fart if there´s no sound.....
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On July 31 2009 05:56 Mah Buckit! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2009 05:31 UCD2 wrote:On July 31 2009 04:58 Fontong wrote:On July 31 2009 04:52 Eishi_Ki wrote:On July 31 2009 03:47 iPF[Div] wrote:
Hey man, how do you know mutas can't fly in space. Theres no particles in space, so ordinary bat wings, or any kind of wing for that matter, would provide no propulsion at all in a vaccuum. Maybe the muta are just flapping their wings for show and are actually using some sort of gaseous expulsions to propel themselves. What do you say about that, huh? they fart in space ...that is very gross it´s not a fart if there´s no sound.....
That can't be true! I've managed to pull off plenty of silent farts in my lifetime.
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