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On June 04 2025 15:23 chromdestroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2025 10:47 Bellalabelaaaa wrote:On June 04 2025 07:50 luxon wrote:
lmao first macsed, now jim and firefly. a great look for china and their scene. There is no evidence that macsed was involved any match fixing activities. Indeed, there is no concrete evidence. However, it’s worth noting that another former SC2 player, Misaki—who was also involved in match fixing—posted an accusation against JIM on April 25th (https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-737543.htm). Misaki claimed that JIM had once blackmailed a teammate (JIM was previously part of team IG, the same team as Macsed). His words were: “You (JIM) even threatened your former teammate to give you 5,000 yuan. His wife had just given birth and he had no money, but because you two had once fixed a match together, he went around borrowing money and eventually gave you the 5,000. The next day, after you lost, you shamelessly went back to threaten him again. I’m honestly surprised that everyone in the StarCraft community is so kind—no one even called the police on you.” Based on the description, the only person who fits both the criteria of being JIM’s teammate and recently having a newborn child at the time is Macsed.
It is also possible that the blackmailed player was not Macsed, but Xigua, who was married in 2015. The blackmailing happened many years before the recent accusation. Xigua was also in IG at that time.
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The real shame is that this has been known for over a year(s?), and Firefly was continuously able to participate. Hopefully this is the final straw for him. Curious about how they will handly EWC.
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Unfortunately this is sort of an open secret that a bunch of older generation Chinese players have gambling problems.
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On June 04 2025 13:47 bluerainnight wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2025 12:17 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2025 11:14 dedede wrote:On June 04 2025 11:00 deepseer wrote:Someone summarized the situations of all the Chinese players that were active during LotV and mentioned in this post. MacSed, Cloudy: clean Time/Oliveira: no game-related violations (verbal attacks on BreakingGG online do not count) Toodming: no confirmed game-related violations (only rumours), besides posting comments in support of a smurfer and attacking the victim in a minor match iAsounu, XY: ladder boosting before WCS 2014 Cyan, Jieshi: ladder boosting before WCS 2019 Coffee: "170610" event (TL post: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/523751-7-chinese-players-banned-match-fixing-and-smurfing ) BreakingGG: "170610", and verbal attacks on Time online Punk, Silky (not the Silky from America): "170610" Xigua: run away with debt from gambling (not game-related) Jim: match-fixing, run away with debt from gambling (not game-related) Firefly: too many to list Didn't Time verbally attack the Korean community in the past? https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/541176-times-controversial-comments agreed that these aren't game-related violations but they are still worth mentioning. And about Macsed I have a vague memory of him being caught up in a match-fixing scandal but I don't think they ever had real proof https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/544064-suspicious-betting-odds-changes-at-wesg-2018Damn, it seems like there is a lot of drama over there. Also seems like a lot of Chinese fans covering for Chinese players. My English isn't strong, so I've used AI for translation. However, I feel it's necessary to provide context regarding some of these pro-players' situations. Of course, you may choose not to believe this information. MacSed: MacSed once lost to an opponent significantly weaker than himself (2500 MMR lower than him). This led some players to accuse him of potentially match-fixing, though no concrete evidence was ever found. Setting aside this uncertainty, MacSed's career record is free of any violations. Time/Oliveira: It must be clarified that Time's offensive WeChat messages about Koreans were merely a crude joke. His relationship with Korean players is actually quite decent. Of course, you could still criticize him for having poor conduct. Coffee: In the "170610" event, Coffee was very likely an unwitting victim. At the time, after intentionally losing the match (match-fixing), Punk said to Coffee: "I made such a huge mistake (actually Punk throwing the match) to lose to you, how about sending me a red envelope (monetary gift)?" Out of their friendship, Coffee thought little of it and sent Punk a red envelope worth approximately 200 RMB. Consequently, Coffee was banned because he was found to have had monetary transactions with Punk, who was confirmed to have match-fixed. (Theoretically, the possibility of a player fixing a major tournament match for such a small sum is virtually nonexistent). This information comes from scboy-xiaose: https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-746277.htm.
Having a good relationship with Korean players doesn’t excuse what he said. I doubt any of kr players even check TL, so they probably aren’t aware of it. That thread was already way too long, so I’m not going to get into it here. But personally, I don’t see comments about f*cking women or killing people as 'jokes'. I guess the only excuse I can offer for him is that he was young and easily influenced by bad people just like the one I used in Jim’s case.
As for MacSed, I think the OP made a valid point regarding the unusual -1.5 line shifts. It's not rare for a player to drop a map to someone 2000 MMR lower, but the betting trends make this case seem more suspicious.
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On June 04 2025 16:49 digmouse wrote:
Unfortunately this is sort of an open secret that a bunch of older generation Chinese players have gambling problems.
It's no secret that there's a gambling ring operating around Leifeng, a sponsor of many minor tournaments. They have been dubbed "the dark side of StarCraft in China".
He even tried to recruit Xiaose to his group, but was rejected immediately.
Most of the players involved have been inactive in major tournaments since 2020 or even before then. Firefly is an exception.
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Hello, this is my first time posting serious stuff on TL.net, I want to post the version of Jim's Claim translated by myself, there will be translation of the picture of the evidence later today.
Saying goodbye to StarCraft 2 who have been with me in previous decade and self-recognition a match-fixing scandle happened last year
Hello everyone, I am Jim. I am writing this post to say goodbye as I will not participate in any StarCraft 2 tournament. First, I admit, I had participated in match-fixing, and I am a gambler, I owed people lots of money and still haven't paid them back. In my over-a-decade StarCraft 2 career, only the first 4 year can be called as professional: I won lots of Champion within China and get Ro.4 results in some overseas event. I learned gambling since 2014 when I met Leifeng[1], it made me didn't put my attention on StarCraft and lack of practice, being overtaken by IAsonu. I even didn't have any practice before the Legacy of the Void invitation match. I feel sorry for SCboy's effort to me back then and I know I deserved all of this. If I keep practice at that time, I would not have any competitors-- my rankings in Korea sever made me feel confident that I can win again every single Chinese player, If I don't try gambling, my life would be good. I met Leifeng in 2014 and my life changed forever. I lost all my money and borrowed money from my family and friends. I still owe lots of them now, I feel sorry for those who helped me.
Sigh, talk that much, let's get to the point. I come back to StarCraft 2 in March 2024, there are open qualifiers in April and I advanced to the main round. When I first came back, Firefly found me practicing everytime time I got online and we chatted a lot. I thought we were good friends at that time. In Asia qualifier[2], I met Firefly on 1st round, I called him, asked him in a low profile: I can lose the match to you; I can pay back the 3k CNY owed you in previous years and split money earned from match-fixing if you are willing to give a point back to me. He accepted happily, I won the first match according to the plot. I gave him money after that and he is happy with that. I did not ask him(Firefly) to give a single point out, he was playing against XY at that time and he said he can’t do(match-fixing) against XY as he was afraid that he would accidentally get a win, therefore I did not talk much on this and never force you. You can definitely not cooperate with me after this, I won’t find you either. But you found me on your own initiative after that, made me have to ask people to lend money for your manipulation. The 3rd match, because you were 2:0 before and still have 3 lives (to lose), you asked if we can manipulate the match against Lemon. I said yes but I did not tell you that (the betting platform did not settle and give me money) I got nothing. I did not tell you the truth because I am afraid I will lose you and not be able to make money. The 4th match (Firefly) against Coffee, I earned money and gave you 30k CNY in total.
Talking about the reveal of Firefly match-fixing last October[3], the reason is that he did not want to give the 1k CNY that I lost to me– I gave him months before that and he still doesn’t care at all. It caused me to be chased for the repayment of debts and incable to manage my daily life. When I saw his contract being terminated by the team[4], I felt that we are both in hard times and I can’t bear it. At the end of the day I did not reveal any evidence for match-fixing and stopped asking for the refund. Until this year, when I saw him qualified for EWC, I tried to ask him to pay me back the money. He still does not want to talk with me and blocked me. Now I do not want that money back but what you pay instead is don’t even think about playing in the tournament(EWC)– if the tournament nowadays can tolerate match-fixing players to join in, I have nothing to say.
Why did Firefly owe me the money I lost: I gave him all the money benefited from match-fixing without letting him bear any risk: no matter it is the betting website not giving the money back or the situation you think you can win the match but end up losing that no benefit is given to me, I beared all of them. There was also a match traced back to a match between Firefly vs Nanami around 20/04/2024. He told me he can get an easy win confidently. I bet he win by 3:1– he need to lose the first match because it made the result more controllable to earn money. However the website refunded the money for the first point. And he ended up losing by 1:3, the money lost for the overall result is real. Everyone can check the date(shown in the pic), I did not ask him to pay for the loss at that time and even gave him some money. Don’t think that I am trying to please you because I am taking advantage of you(Firefly), I just don’t want to lose a friend and am thinking of earning money together in the future.
And then during the EWC global qualifiers, the first day you play against Ragnarok, the odds are bad that I cannot earn money from that, but you have a good performance and advance into Day 2’s match. When you faced Bunny at that time, I wanted you to do your best in the match as there are a hundred thousand dollar prize pool earnings, However you told me that you do not want to play at your best in matches you weren't sure of. I gave you money after we manipulated the results. Then at the end of July, I had the need for money, therefore I found you to give a win to your opponent as your team had no chance to advance(to the playoffs) already. But you declined with a high profile because it is the best tournament within China, then winning 2:0 against YoungYakov[5]. That’s why I turn against you. You are only willing to pay back me around 40k CNY and said I am lending money from you, you give money to me out of pity. You claimed that I am threatening to blackmail you but it is always that I lend you money to bet and manipulate the result and still need to pay another one to you; You did not give me any money when I pay you the benefit gained and I even cannot get back many of them when I bet on your match vs Lemon because of the website. I just want to take back my loss, my loss because of you. I won’t send lots of messages, following you and being blocked by you if you pay that money back. If you decide to make it to the point of no return, I am also going to do so and then retire, expose this out and not join any tournaments anymore.
Finally, I hope everyone stays away from gamblers, stay away from friends who are addicted to gambling. Lending money actually hurts them, it seems to be helping them but you’re actually pushing him to the gambling hole, at least I had such an experience. Also do not have any financial dealings with friends who gamble, I have had such a tragic experience already, if I stay away from gambling I will have a very good life. Firefly, you know I am a gambler and lack of money, you still did this to me in my most desperate and urgent hour, giving a chance to live and giving me that 10k, then I can only make you end with me together, just for a breath of relieve, I do not want to see a match-fixing player going overseas and competing in tournaments. I never expected you to still play in assuredly, never talk to me or admit that you owe me money– as long as you willingly come to find me, I can still talk to you, you’re such a stubborn ass. I hope everyone in the forum can forward this to EWC officials to handle. As for the part that you want to call the police on me for blackmail and threatening, feel free. I am sorry to those who once had high expectations and helped me, except Firefly, I do not feel sorry towards you. It is you being a high profile and not giving back that 10k back to me, there is still room if you tried to talk with me. I considered the consequences for what I did today, I have nothing to lose other than my life too. If you want to call the police then do it immediately with evidence. I can also give you my ID and address. Please do it immediately! The evidence below has no particular order but they are factual. If there are any defame to you, Xue “Firefly” Tao, I will take any legal responsibility.
[1]: The sponsor of Leifeng Cup
[2]: ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia
[3]: seemed to be https://www.scboy.cc/?user-18452.htm
[4]: x.com
[5]: World Team League 2024 Summer Regular Season Ro.11 - PHR8 vs OFSG Match 2
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Also busted this player on EU in 2v2 for map hacking, if means anything for this thread.
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On June 04 2025 17:15 dedede wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2025 13:47 bluerainnight wrote:On June 04 2025 12:17 Jealous wrote:On June 04 2025 11:14 dedede wrote:On June 04 2025 11:00 deepseer wrote:Someone summarized the situations of all the Chinese players that were active during LotV and mentioned in this post. MacSed, Cloudy: clean Time/Oliveira: no game-related violations (verbal attacks on BreakingGG online do not count) Toodming: no confirmed game-related violations (only rumours), besides posting comments in support of a smurfer and attacking the victim in a minor match iAsounu, XY: ladder boosting before WCS 2014 Cyan, Jieshi: ladder boosting before WCS 2019 Coffee: "170610" event (TL post: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/523751-7-chinese-players-banned-match-fixing-and-smurfing ) BreakingGG: "170610", and verbal attacks on Time online Punk, Silky (not the Silky from America): "170610" Xigua: run away with debt from gambling (not game-related) Jim: match-fixing, run away with debt from gambling (not game-related) Firefly: too many to list Didn't Time verbally attack the Korean community in the past? https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/541176-times-controversial-comments agreed that these aren't game-related violations but they are still worth mentioning. And about Macsed I have a vague memory of him being caught up in a match-fixing scandal but I don't think they ever had real proof https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/544064-suspicious-betting-odds-changes-at-wesg-2018Damn, it seems like there is a lot of drama over there. Also seems like a lot of Chinese fans covering for Chinese players. My English isn't strong, so I've used AI for translation. However, I feel it's necessary to provide context regarding some of these pro-players' situations. Of course, you may choose not to believe this information. MacSed: MacSed once lost to an opponent significantly weaker than himself (2500 MMR lower than him). This led some players to accuse him of potentially match-fixing, though no concrete evidence was ever found. Setting aside this uncertainty, MacSed's career record is free of any violations. Time/Oliveira: It must be clarified that Time's offensive WeChat messages about Koreans were merely a crude joke. His relationship with Korean players is actually quite decent. Of course, you could still criticize him for having poor conduct. Coffee: In the "170610" event, Coffee was very likely an unwitting victim. At the time, after intentionally losing the match (match-fixing), Punk said to Coffee: "I made such a huge mistake (actually Punk throwing the match) to lose to you, how about sending me a red envelope (monetary gift)?" Out of their friendship, Coffee thought little of it and sent Punk a red envelope worth approximately 200 RMB. Consequently, Coffee was banned because he was found to have had monetary transactions with Punk, who was confirmed to have match-fixed. (Theoretically, the possibility of a player fixing a major tournament match for such a small sum is virtually nonexistent). This information comes from scboy-xiaose: https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-746277.htm. Having a good relationship with Korean players doesn’t excuse what he said. I doubt any of kr players even check TL, so they probably aren’t aware of it. That thread was already way too long, so I’m not going to get into it here. But personally, I don’t see comments about f*cking women or killing people as 'jokes'. I guess the only excuse I can offer for him is that he was young and easily influenced by bad people just like the one I used in Jim’s case. As for MacSed, I think the OP made a valid point regarding the unusual -1.5 line shifts. It's not rare for a player to drop a map to someone 2000 MMR lower, but the betting trends make this case seem more suspicious.
I agree with that. Regardless of whether Time's remarks on WeChat were meant as a joke, this behavior should be condemned. Time has always been like this—he made many inappropriate comments when he was young, until he later matured as a professional player.
Additionally, there is a further update regarding "Coffee."
Coffee himself has responded to the public discussion. The authenticity of the information provided by scboy may be questionable. www.scboy.cc
However, the most pressing matter at hand remains jim's accusation against firefly. Among the evidence provided by jim is a record of match-fixing in a game where firefly played against bunny. firefly has earned qualification for the Esports World Cup 2025: Asia Qualifier. If jim's allegations against him prove true, it would mean firefly engaged in match-fixing during an EWC-related series. Per the regulations, he would be disqualified and suspended.
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On June 04 2025 17:30 starshimada wrote:Hello, this is my first time posting serious stuff on TL.net, I want to post the version of Jim's Claim translated by myself, there will be translation of the picture of the evidence later today. Saying goodbye to StarCraft 2 who have been with me in previous decade and self-recognition a match-fixing scandle happened last year Hello everyone, I am Jim. I am writing this post to say goodbye as I will not participate in any StarCraft 2 tournament. First, I admit, I had participated in match-fixing, and I am a gambler, I owed people lots of money and still haven't paid them back. In my over-a-decade StarCraft 2 career, only the first 4 year can be called as professional: I won lots of Champion within China and get Ro.4 results in some overseas event. I learned gambling since 2014 when I met Leifeng [1], it made me didn't put my attention on StarCraft and lack of practice, being overtaken by IAsonu. I even didn't have any practice before the Legacy of the Void invitation match. I feel sorry for SCboy's effort to me back then and I know I deserved all of this. If I keep practice at that time, I would not have any competitors-- my rankings in Korea sever made me feel confident that I can win again every single Chinese player, If I don't try gambling, my life would be good. I met Leifeng in 2014 and my life changed forever. I lost all my money and borrowed money from my family and friends. I still owe lots of them now, I feel sorry for those who helped me. Sigh, talk that much, let's get to the point. I come back to StarCraft 2 in March 2024, there are open qualifiers in April and I advanced to the main round. When I first came back, Firefly found me practicing everytime time I got online and we chatted a lot. I thought we were good friends at that time. In Asia qualifier [2], I met Firefly on 1st round, I called him, asked him in a low profile: I can lose the match to you; I can pay back the 3k CNY owed you in previous years and split money earned from match-fixing if you are willing to give a point back to me. He accepted happily, I won the first match according to the plot. I gave him money after that and he is happy with that. I did not ask him(Firefly) to give a single point out, he was playing against XY at that time and he said he can’t do(match-fixing) against XY as he was afraid that he would accidentally get a win, therefore I did not talk much on this and never force you. You can definitely not cooperate with me after this, I won’t find you either. But you found me on your own initiative after that, made me have to ask people to lend money for your manipulation. The 3rd match, because you were 2:0 before and still have 3 lives (to lose), you asked if we can manipulate the match against Lemon. I said yes but I did not tell you that (the betting platform did not settle and give me money) I got nothing. I did not tell you the truth because I am afraid I will lose you and not be able to make money. The 4th match (Firefly) against Coffee, I earned money and gave you 30k CNY in total. Talking about the reveal of Firefly match-fixing last October [3], the reason is that he did not want to give the 1k CNY that I lost to me– I gave him months before that and he still doesn’t care at all. It caused me to be chased for the repayment of debts and incable to manage my daily life. When I saw his contract being terminated by the team[ 4], I felt that we are both in hard times and I can’t bear it. At the end of the day I did not reveal any evidence for match-fixing and stopped asking for the refund. Until this year, when I saw him qualified for EWC, I tried to ask him to pay me back the money. He still does not want to talk with me and blocked me. Now I do not want that money back but what you pay instead is don’t even think about playing in the tournament(EWC)– if the tournament nowadays can tolerate match-fixing players to join in, I have nothing to say. Why did Firefly owe me the money I lost: I gave him all the money benefited from match-fixing without letting him bear any risk: no matter it is the betting website not giving the money back or the situation you think you can win the match but end up losing that no benefit is given to me, I beared all of them. There was also a match traced back to a match between Firefly vs Nanami around 20/04/2024. He told me he can get an easy win confidently. I bet he win by 3:1– he need to lose the first match because it made the result more controllable to earn money. However the website refunded the money for the first point. And he ended up losing by 1:3, the money lost for the overall result is real. Everyone can check the date(shown in the pic), I did not ask him to pay for the loss at that time and even gave him some money. Don’t think that I am trying to please you because I am taking advantage of you(Firefly), I just don’t want to lose a friend and am thinking of earning money together in the future. And then during the EWC global qualifiers, the first day you play against Ragnarok, the odds are bad that I cannot earn money from that, but you have a good performance and advance into Day 2’s match. When you faced Bunny at that time, I wanted you to do your best in the match as there are a hundred thousand dollar prize pool earnings, However you told me that you do not want to play at your best in matches you weren't sure of. I gave you money after we manipulated the results. Then at the end of July, I had the need for money, therefore I found you to give a win to your opponent as your team had no chance to advance(to the playoffs) already. But you declined with a high profile because it is the best tournament within China, then winning 2:0 against YoungYakov [5]. That’s why I turn against you. You are only willing to pay back me around 40k CNY and said I am lending money from you, you give money to me out of pity. You claimed that I am threatening to blackmail you but it is always that I lend you money to bet and manipulate the result and still need to pay another one to you; You did not give me any money when I pay you the benefit gained and I even cannot get back many of them when I bet on your match vs Lemon because of the website. I just want to take back my loss, my loss because of you. I won’t send lots of messages, following you and being blocked by you if you pay that money back. If you decide to make it to the point of no return, I am also going to do so and then retire, expose this out and not join any tournaments anymore. Finally, I hope everyone stays away from gamblers, stay away from friends who are addicted to gambling. Lending money actually hurts them, it seems to be helping them but you’re actually pushing him to the gambling hole, at least I had such an experience. Also do not have any financial dealings with friends who gamble, I have had such a tragic experience already, if I stay away from gambling I will have a very good life. Firefly, you know I am a gambler and lack of money, you still did this to me in my most desperate and urgent hour, giving a chance to live and giving me that 10k, then I can only make you end with me together, just for a breath of relieve, I do not want to see a match-fixing player going overseas and competing in tournaments. I never expected you to still play in assuredly, never talk to me or admit that you owe me money– as long as you willingly come to find me, I can still talk to you, you’re such a stubborn ass. I hope everyone in the forum can forward this to EWC officials to handle. As for the part that you want to call the police on me for blackmail and threatening, feel free. I am sorry to those who once had high expectations and helped me, except Firefly, I do not feel sorry towards you. It is you being a high profile and not giving back that 10k back to me, there is still room if you tried to talk with me. I considered the consequences for what I did today, I have nothing to lose other than my life too. If you want to call the police then do it immediately with evidence. I can also give you my ID and address. Please do it immediately! The evidence below has no particular order but they are factual. If there are any defame to you, Xue “Firefly” Tao, I will take any legal responsibility. [1]: The sponsor of Leifeng Cup [2]: ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia [3]: seemed to be https://www.scboy.cc/?user-18452.htm[4]: x.com[5]: World Team League 2024 Summer Regular Season Ro.11 - PHR8 vs OFSG Match 2
photos are given here. Some of them are duplicated but I don't have the time to screen and pick it out, only unrepeated part had been translated. I found that I failed uploading photos on tl.net so I put them at the following link:
imgur.com
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On June 04 2025 07:50 luxon wrote:
lmao first macsed, now jim and firefly. a great look for china and their scene.
There is no evidence of Macsed match-fixing. His loss to a Diamond-level player in a previous match was due to underestimating his opponent and falling victim to a well-planned tactic against cannon rush. This has been confirmed by a SATL (Starcraft II Amateur Team League, a well-known league in China) staff present at the event.
The Story of Macsed's Loss to the Diamond Player
Recently, there was news about Macsed losing to the "Diamond Player" (an amateur player in the Diamond league). In this matter, I am one of the guilty parties because I kept urging Macsed to play faster and not drag things out against a Diamond player. I am guilty! But the story isn’t that simple—it involves many people, such as Rail and Showtime.
This Diamond Player Seventy91, roughly around Diamond 3, is a Russian-speaking player from the CIS region. He’s usually quite shy during practice, so he hasn’t been "corrupted" by our dark referee group (Translator’s note: a humorous way of saying he hasn’t participated in any SATL match). Due to sharing the same language, Rail seemed to get along well with him, and the two often exchanged ideas. Not long after, it was time for the Diamond Player to face Macsed in a match.
In the first game, Macsed played very cautiously, too scared to push aggressively. After the first match, I told Sed, "Play faster! He’s really just a Diamond player—why are you being so timid?" Macsed took our advice… and then got killed by a cannon rush.
The interesting part came afterward. Although Sed won 2-1, for the Western players, the fact that this Diamond Player took a game off Macsed was unbelievable. Led by Showtime, some players began accusing Macsed of match-fixing, betting against himself to win money. Rail, however, was very agitated. Being Russian, his English wasn’t great, and he kept stammering, unable to articulate his thoughts clearly. Scarlett, on the other hand, dismissed the idea outright, believing Macsed would never fix a match.
Then, Showtime and other Western players started analyzing all of Macsed’s mistakes in the replay. Indeed, once you lose, every mistake can be framed as evidence of match-fixing. But in the end, Rail finally made it clear what he wanted to express. His point was roughly this: The Diamond Player’s strategy was something Rail had come up with before the match. There was no way Macsed could have known about it and "cooperated" to throw the game. The strategy relied on Macsed underestimating the Diamond Player in the second game after thinking he was too weak, leading to the cannon rush. Therefore, the Diamond Player’s victory over Macsed wasn’t match-fixing—it was Rail and the Diamond Player outsmarting Sed.
At this point, Showtime conceded, calling the Diamond Player "The man is a really lucky dog."
However, Western players not present at WESG, led by Snute, exploded in outrage, accusing Macsed of match-fixing. Due to the language barrier, Rail didn’t step forward again to explain his genius tactical plan.
And that’s the full story of Macsed’s "crushing defeat" at the hands of the Diamond Player. In the end, it was Rail being too strong and me being too bad—not Sed’s fault!
This SATL staff clarified this matter on the Chinese forum, and the original text is on the 28th floor of the post: https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-178720.htm
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What an absolute shame. Really hope this will be dealt with before EWC so it won't cause any still greater damage to the scene.
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I think to actually ban Firefly from EWC, the officials would need physical proof e.g. money transfer to Firefly account from a bettor who bet on Firefly losing a match.
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On June 04 2025 21:09 championiasonu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2025 07:50 luxon wrote:
lmao first macsed, now jim and firefly. a great look for china and their scene. There is no evidence of Macsed match-fixing. His loss to a Diamond-level player in a previous match was due to underestimating his opponent and falling victim to a well-planned tactic against cannon rush. This has been confirmed by a SATL (Starcraft II Amateur Team League, a well-known league in China) staff present at the event.The Story of Macsed's Loss to the Diamond Player Show nested quote +
Recently, there was news about Macsed losing to the "Diamond Player" (an amateur player in the Diamond league). In this matter, I am one of the guilty parties because I kept urging Macsed to play faster and not drag things out against a Diamond player. I am guilty! But the story isn’t that simple—it involves many people, such as Rail and Showtime.
This Diamond Player Seventy91, roughly around Diamond 3, is a Russian-speaking player from the CIS region. He’s usually quite shy during practice, so he hasn’t been "corrupted" by our dark referee group (Translator’s note: a humorous way of saying he hasn’t participated in any SATL match). Due to sharing the same language, Rail seemed to get along well with him, and the two often exchanged ideas. Not long after, it was time for the Diamond Player to face Macsed in a match.
In the first game, Macsed played very cautiously, too scared to push aggressively. After the first match, I told Sed, "Play faster! He’s really just a Diamond player—why are you being so timid?" Macsed took our advice… and then got killed by a cannon rush.
The interesting part came afterward. Although Sed won 2-1, for the Western players, the fact that this Diamond Player took a game off Macsed was unbelievable. Led by Showtime, some players began accusing Macsed of match-fixing, betting against himself to win money. Rail, however, was very agitated. Being Russian, his English wasn’t great, and he kept stammering, unable to articulate his thoughts clearly. Scarlett, on the other hand, dismissed the idea outright, believing Macsed would never fix a match.
Then, Showtime and other Western players started analyzing all of Macsed’s mistakes in the replay. Indeed, once you lose, every mistake can be framed as evidence of match-fixing. But in the end, Rail finally made it clear what he wanted to express. His point was roughly this: The Diamond Player’s strategy was something Rail had come up with before the match. There was no way Macsed could have known about it and "cooperated" to throw the game. The strategy relied on Macsed underestimating the Diamond Player in the second game after thinking he was too weak, leading to the cannon rush. Therefore, the Diamond Player’s victory over Macsed wasn’t match-fixing—it was Rail and the Diamond Player outsmarting Sed.
At this point, Showtime conceded, calling the Diamond Player "The man is a really lucky dog."
However, Western players not present at WESG, led by Snute, exploded in outrage, accusing Macsed of match-fixing. Due to the language barrier, Rail didn’t step forward again to explain his genius tactical plan.
And that’s the full story of Macsed’s "crushing defeat" at the hands of the Diamond Player. In the end, it was Rail being too strong and me being too bad—not Sed’s fault!
This SATL staff clarified this matter on the Chinese forum, and the original text is on the 28th floor of the post: https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-178720.htm
It's #385 of that thread, posted on 2021-6-9. Not 28th.
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On June 04 2025 23:54 argonautdice wrote:
I think to actually ban Firefly from EWC, the officials would need physical proof e.g. money transfer to Firefly account from a bettor who bet on Firefly losing a match.
I think there are transfer records to Firefly and screenshots of Jim's bet on Firefly's loss in that thread.
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On June 04 2025 05:10 dedede wrote:
Shit Jim was the best foreigner in WOL. Sad to see all these.
This definitely isn't true.
Either way, it's disappointing.
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Damn, this is so tragic. I knew about Jim but didn't realize he had such strong accomplishments like 2-3 Soulkey and beating Life, Taeja, etc. To know that gambling/matchfixing ruined his motivation and life, and was the main reason for a top Chinese player to fall out of competitiveness, is partially cathartic (knowing that he had the potential to keep competing at the top), but also tragic (what was lost).
It's also so sad that, even if Jim's story may be biased towards his side (we hear his qualms but not Firefly's), that Firefly did not make amends with him, leading to him being exposed. This is tragic on a personal relationship level. Of course though, they are matchfixers and neither should compete.
I didn't know Firefly qualified for EWC, but I guess this may be the final straw for him if the evidence is deemed enough. Too bad.
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We need to remove firefly from the EWC
Only one person should take his spot and represent Asia region
His name is
Has , Taiwan pride baby
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How do you think this will reflect on the scene as a whole, and for the future of SC2? I think that before we jump to conclusions, we should look at the facts. Right now, to my knowledge, the main facts that we have are that someone has accused a player of matchfixing, and told a story that as yet has no documentary evidence beyond that person's word.
I'm not saying matchfixing did or did not happen, and if it did, the perpetrator should be disciplined accordingly. But seriously. This is just words.
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