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Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing
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Text from original post: + Show Spoiler + 大家好，我是jim，我以后也不会参加星际2比赛游戏了，发这个贴告个别。我首先自爆，我打过假赛，我是赌狗，我欠了很多人钱至今都没有还，打了十几年星际争霸2职业，我真正意义打上职业只有最初的4年里，拿了很多国内比赛冠军和一些外战的4强成绩，当我2014遇到雷锋以后就被他教会了赌劝了赌到后面一直没有怎么训练，也没有心思放到星际上面，也导致我后面成绩一落千丈被IA time 反超，甚至虚空之遗邀请赛我1盘没练就去参赛，很对不起91和小色当时的栽培，我知道这一切也算是我咎由自取活该的下场，因为放在当时如果我继续保持训练在国内我没有竞争对手，我的韩服排名让我非常有自信对抗每一名国内玩家，如果没有去接触赌博，我的人生一定会非常好，2014年初遇见雷锋，，然后我的人生就发生了翻天覆地的变化，不仅输光了所有家产和父母的钱还问了很多亲朋好友借钱，并且现在还欠了很多人钱，我很对不起那些曾经帮助过我的人，哎，说了这么多，开始说到正事，最早我是去年3月份回来玩星际争霸2的，刚好4月份初有海选我去参加了并且出线到正赛，在我刚回来打的时候，我每天一上线夜蝶就找我练习并且交流我认为我们是很好的朋友，到了亚预赛的时候第一场我和夜蝶相遇，我给他播去了语音，我低下头来问他，我愿意输掉比赛放我一小分还能还他前年借我的3000块钱，然后并且说还能分到他假赛的钱，他很乐意的接受了，比赛第一把根据剧本我赢下了比赛，赛后我很开心的把钱给了他，他也很开心的接受了钱，再到第二场，我没有开过口找他放那时候他打XY，他自己和我说，打xy不能搞，怕不小心打死xy，我也就没有多说什么，我那时候没有逼着你。那时候你可以不再合作我也不会找你，但是之后是你主动找的我，导致我不得不开始问别人借钱给你操作，第三场开始你2：0你有3条命你找到我，说今天打lemon可不可以操作，我说可以，但是我没跟你说完其实我是被黑了不少钱，因为当时不说被黑钱是怕以后失去你不能继续赚钱，然后来到第四场你打咖啡，这场假赛赚了钱给了你一共3万多，，说到去年10月份我曝光夜蝶，是因为他一直不愿意把那一万元亏损的钱给我，导致我被不少人追债以及生活不能自理，并且我去年给了他好几个月的时间，他依旧爱答不理，并且到最后还没有把钱给我，看见他被俱乐部开除了，我于心不忍觉得都很难我就没有打算曝光他假赛证据也没继续找他要这个钱，直到今年，我看见他进到ewc，我试着去找他要回这笔亏损钱，他仍旧不谈不理拉黑我，接到去年的话题，现在我也不要这笔钱了，但是星际2比赛你就不要去参加了，如果现在的比赛能容忍假赛选手参赛我也没话说，再说说夜蝶为什么欠我这笔亏损钱。至始至终所有钱假赛获利的钱都是我给的你，并且没有让你承担任何风险，无论是我被网站黑掉钱，还是你拼自己赢输掉比赛不给我钱，我都承担了，还有一件事原因追溯到去年4月20几号一场比赛 夜蝶打nanami 夜蝶信心满满的和我说我随便赢，然后我下了很多他赢，作为保底他得输第一把，这样能赚到钱并且能很好控住盘，结果网站退了第一盘的钱，最后结果他1：3输了，总盘输掉的钱是实在的，那时候我不但没找他要钱，并且还给了他一笔钱，大家可以看得到日期，那时候我没问你要钱还给你钱你不要觉得是我占了你便宜想讨好你，是我不想失去你这个朋友想的是以后还能一起赚钱，再到7月初石油杯全球赛的预选赛的时候，第一天你打rnk赔率非常不好赚不到钱，但是你很强进入了第二天的比赛，对阵bunny，这回我个人希望你能好好比赛，在赢几轮就能拿到保底奖金十几万，可是你跟我说没把握的比赛不想好好打，然后操作完以后我给了你钱，，再到了7月底的时候我去找你我i有需求希望你战队赛能放，因为你们战队已经出不了线了，我想赚点钱回血，但是你因为这是国内转播最好的比赛你高高在上拒绝我，狠狠的2：0赢了YoungYakov所以我开始与你翻脸，你只愿意还我4万多。并且你总要和我说我是借你钱给我钱是可怜我并且说我在威胁敲诈勒索你，那么我前面给你转钱时你没有给过我一分钱，从来是我借钱给你操作完事后还要乖乖给你一笔钱，并且我下你输给lemon的比赛时还被网站黑了不少钱。我只想拿回我的损失，在你身上的损失，本来你把钱还我 我就不会粘着你发邮件无线被你拉黑，你要做的这么绝，我也把事情做绝，并且退役不会再参加任何的比赛，并且曝光这件事情，最后希望大家能远离赌博的朋友，远离那些沾了赌的朋友，你们借钱给他实际是害了他，你们看似帮了他其实是让他走向深渊，至少我是这样走过来的，也千万别和沾了赌的朋友他们有经济来往，我的经历已经非常悲惨了，如果我不碰赌我会过得非常好，最后说一下夜蝶你在我最危难最绝望的时候还要这样对我，尤其知道我是个赌狗并且非常缺钱的情况下，已经非常惨了还不给我留活路，不肯把这个1万块钱给我，我只能这样爆了你，不为别的只想出口恶气，不想看到假赛选手出国比赛。我没想到的是你还能理直气壮的打比赛也不来找我谈也不承认欠我钱我但凡你愿意来找我，我也能和你商量，你真是头倔驴。希望论坛的各位朋友能帮忙转发ewc赛事方能给予处理，至于你一直想报警说我威胁你 敲诈勒索你，请随意。我对不起很多很多人那些曾经看得起我，给我帮助的人，但是唯独你夜蝶我很对得起你，是你高高在上并且赖着这一万死活不肯给我，哪怕和我谈一下都有余地。今天我没底线做出这种事情已经考虑后果了，我也没什么可以失去的了，命一条，你想报警我威胁你我敲诈勒索你请你马上去报警拿出证据。我也把我的身份证现住址可以提供给你。请你马上去做！以下证据没整理顺序，但是都是实打实的。如果我有诽谤你薛涛夜蝶，我愿意承担任何法律责任。 | ||
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dedede
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WombaT
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veniss
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luxon
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dedede
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Brutaxilos
United States2624 Posts
On June 04 2025 08:41 dedede wrote: I recalled some Jimcredible moments in WCS AM. This really sucks, sad to see those young kids get easily influenced and dragged into gambling. Dude, Jim is 29, hardly a kid. | ||
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Phattyasmo
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dedede
United States38 Posts
When he got into gambling it was 10 years ago so he was 18 or something. | ||
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Bellalabelaaaa
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On June 04 2025 07:50 luxon wrote: lmao first macsed, now jim and firefly. a great look for china and their scene. There is no evidence that macsed was involved any match fixing activities. | ||
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argonautdice
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deepseer
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Cloudy: clean MacSed: no confirmed violations Time/Oliveira: no game-related violations (verbal attacks on BreakingGG online do not count) Toodming: no confirmed game-related violations, besides posting comments in support of a smurfer and attacking the victim in a minor match iAsonu, XY: ladder boosting before WCS 2014 Cyan, Jieshi: ladder boosting before WCS 2019 Coffee: "170610" event (TL post: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/523751-7-chinese-players-banned-match-fixing-and-smurfing ) BreakingGG: "170610", and verbal attacks on Time online Punk, Silky (not the Silky from America): "170610" Xigua: run away with debt from gambling (not game-related) Jim: match-fixing, run away with debt from gambling (not game-related) Firefly: too many to list | ||
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dedede
United States38 Posts
On June 04 2025 11:00 deepseer wrote: Someone summarized the situations of all the Chinese players that were active during LotV and mentioned in this post. MacSed, Cloudy: clean Time/Oliveira: no game-related violations (verbal attacks on BreakingGG online do not count) Toodming: no confirmed game-related violations (only rumours), besides posting comments in support of a smurfer and attacking the victim in a minor match iAsounu, XY: ladder boosting before WCS 2014 Cyan, Jieshi: ladder boosting before WCS 2019 Coffee: "170610" event (TL post: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/523751-7-chinese-players-banned-match-fixing-and-smurfing ) BreakingGG: "170610", and verbal attacks on Time online Punk, Silky (not the Silky from America): "170610" Xigua: run away with debt from gambling (not game-related) Jim: match-fixing, run away with debt from gambling (not game-related) Firefly: too many to list Didn't Time verbally attack the Korean community in the past? https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/541176-times-controversial-comments agreed that these aren't game-related violations but they are still worth mentioning. And about Macsed I have a vague memory of him being caught up in a match-fixing scandal but I don't think they ever had real proof https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/544064-suspicious-betting-odds-changes-at-wesg-2018 Damn, it seems like there is a lot of drama over there. | ||
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Jealous
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On June 04 2025 11:14 dedede wrote: Didn't Time verbally attack the Korean community in the past? https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/541176-times-controversial-comments agreed that these aren't game-related violations but they are still worth mentioning. And about Macsed I have a vague memory of him being caught up in a match-fixing scandal but I don't think they ever had real proof https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/544064-suspicious-betting-odds-changes-at-wesg-2018 Damn, it seems like there is a lot of drama over there. Also seems like a lot of Chinese fans covering for Chinese players. | ||
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bluerainnight
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On June 04 2025 12:17 Jealous wrote: Also seems like a lot of Chinese fans covering for Chinese players. My English isn't strong, so I've used AI for translation. However, I feel it's necessary to provide context regarding some of these pro-players' situations. Of course, you may choose not to believe this information. MacSed: MacSed once lost to an opponent significantly weaker than himself (2500 MMR lower than him). This led some players to accuse him of potentially match-fixing, though no concrete evidence was ever found. Setting aside this uncertainty, MacSed's career record is free of any violations. Time/Oliveira: It must be clarified that Time's offensive WeChat messages about Koreans were merely a crude joke. His relationship with Korean players is actually quite decent. Of course, you could still criticize him for having poor conduct. Coffee: In the "170610" event, Coffee was very likely an unwitting victim. At the time, after intentionally losing the match (match-fixing), Punk said to Coffee: "I made such a huge mistake (actually Punk throwing the match) to lose to you, how about sending me a red envelope (monetary gift)?" Out of their friendship, Coffee thought little of it and sent Punk a red envelope worth approximately 200 RMB. Consequently, Coffee was banned because he was found to have had monetary transactions with Punk, who was confirmed to have match-fixed. (Theoretically, the possibility of a player fixing a major tournament match for such a small sum is virtually nonexistent). This information comes from scboy-xiaose:https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-746277.htm. | ||
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AlexGano
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"Hello everyone, I’m Jim. I will no longer be participating in StarCraft II tournaments or matches. I’m posting this as a farewell. First, I’ll come clean: I’ve been involved in match-fixing. I’ve gambled. I’ve borrowed a lot of money and haven’t repaid it. I’ve been a StarCraft II pro for over a decade, but truthfully, I was only truly professional during the first four years, when I won many domestic tournaments and reached semifinals in some international ones. But everything changed in 2014 when I met “Leifeng” (雷锋). He introduced me to gambling, and from then on, I barely practiced and lost all focus on the game. My results plummeted, and I was surpassed by players like iA and TIME. For instance, I didn’t practice at all for the Legacy of the Void Invitational. I let down 91 and XiaoSe, who had nurtured me then. I know all of this is my own fault—I brought it upon myself. If I had continued training seriously back then, I would have had no real domestic competition. My Korean ladder rank gave me confidence that I could beat any player in China. But gambling ruined everything. My life would have been so much better had I never touched it. In early 2014, I met Leifeng, and from that point on, my life changed completely. I not only lost all my own savings and my parents’ money, but also borrowed heavily from relatives and friends. I still owe many people money. I feel deeply sorry to all those who ever helped me. Now, to get to the main point. I returned to StarCraft II in March of last year. In early April, there was a qualifier, which I participated in and advanced to the main event. When I came back, Firefly (夜蝶, XUE TAO) messaged me every day to practice and chat. I considered him a good friend. In the Asia qualifiers, we met in the first round. I called him and asked if I could lose the match and let him take one game off me, in exchange for him repaying me the 3,000 RMB he borrowed from me a couple years back. I also mentioned he’d get a cut of the match-fixing profits. He agreed. In the first game, I followed the script and won. After the match, I happily gave him the money, and he gladly accepted. In the second match, he played against XY. I didn’t ask him to throw that one. He told me he couldn’t rig that match because he didn’t want to risk accidentally knocking XY out. I didn’t push him. At that time, if he wanted to stop cooperating, I wouldn’t have forced him. But it was him who kept coming back to me, which forced me to borrow even more money to bankroll his matches. Starting in the third match, he was up 2-0 with three lives remaining, and he came to me asking if we could rig his match against Lemon. I agreed, though I didn’t tell him I was already getting scammed by betting websites. I kept quiet because I didn’t want to lose the chance to make more money with him. In the fourth match against Coffee, we rigged it and made over 30,000 RMB. Later, in October, I exposed Firefly because he refused to reimburse me for a 10,000 RMB loss. I was being chased by creditors and my life was a mess. I gave him several months, but he never responded seriously and never paid me back. When I saw he was kicked out of his team, I felt sorry for him and didn’t release any evidence of match-fixing or push further. This year, when I saw he qualified for EWC, I tried again to get that money back. He still ignored me and blocked me. So now I’m done trying. I don’t want the money anymore—but I believe he shouldn’t be allowed to participate in StarCraft II tournaments. If organizers are fine with match-fixers competing, then I have nothing more to say. Let me explain why he owes me this money. All the profits from match-fixing came from me. I never let him take any risk. Even when I got scammed or he lost on his own without giving me the promised result, I still paid him. One example: last April, Firefly played against Nanami. He was super confident and told me he’d win easily, so I bet heavily on him. As a safeguard, he had to lose the first game so we could manipulate the odds. But the site refunded that first map’s bets. He ended up losing the whole match 1–3, and I took a real financial hit. I didn’t ask him for money—on the contrary, I gave him money after that. Check the date for yourself. I wasn’t trying to bribe or flatter him—I just didn’t want to lose him as a partner, thinking we could still make money together. Fast forward to early July, the EWC qualifiers: he played against RNK on Day 1. Odds were bad, so no profit. But he played well and advanced to Day 2 against Bunny. I personally hoped he’d compete seriously since a few wins would secure a big prize. But he told me he didn’t feel confident and didn’t want to play properly. After we manipulated that match, I still gave him his cut. Later in July, I asked him to throw a match in a team tournament, since his team couldn’t qualify anyway. I wanted to recover losses. But he refused, citing it was a major domestic broadcast. He went on to crush YoungYakov 2–0. That’s when I broke ties with him. He only agreed to pay me back a bit over 40,000 RMB and kept saying that he pitied me, and I was threatening/extorting him. Let’s be clear: I was the one constantly transferring money to him. He never gave me a cent. I borrowed money to set everything up, and still paid him. When I bet on him losing to Lemon, I got scammed by the site again. I only want my losses back—the ones I incurred because of him. If he had simply paid me back, I wouldn’t have kept bothering him or been blocked endlessly. He forced my hand. So now I’m quitting. I won’t participate in any more tournaments, and I’m exposing this incident. Finally, I hope everyone can stay far away from gambling and gamblers. Lending them money might seem helpful, but it only pulls them deeper into the abyss. That was my experience. Please never mix money with gambling friends. My story is a tragedy. If I hadn’t gambled, I’d be living a great life. And Firefly, how could you treat me like this in my darkest hour? You knew I was a desperate gambler, yet still refused to give me that 10,000 RMB, which could’ve saved me. So I’m exposing you—not out of revenge, but just to vent. I don’t want to see match-fixers competing internationally. What shocked me is that you’re still so shamelessly playing in tournaments, refusing to talk to me or admit you owe me money. If you had come to me, I’d have tried to settle things. I hope forum members can help forward this to the EWC organizers for investigation. As for your claim that I’m threatening or extorting you—go ahead and call the police. I’m sorry to all the people I’ve let down. But to you, Firefly, I have no regrets. You looked down on me and refused to even negotiate over a small sum. I’ve already accepted the consequences of posting this—I have nothing left to lose. Just one life. If you want to report me, I’ll provide my real name and address. I dare you to act on it. The evidence below may not be in order, but it’s all real. If I have slandered you, Xue Tao (Firefly), I am willing to bear any legal responsibility." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- As a spectator, an amateur enthusiast, and a player without a regional server, I can only say that TIME’s championship in 2023 fulfilled a long-held dream for Chinese StarCraft players. Sadly, his brilliance was not enough to drive out all the darkness. With his departure, many people have stopped caring about the scene altogether. There are still players who deserve great respect—such as iA and Cloudy—who continue to live their lives with passion even after leaving the StarCraft community. But there are also people like Jim and Firefly, who destroyed not only their own futures but also those of others. I despise them. | ||
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chromdestroyer
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On June 04 2025 10:47 Bellalabelaaaa wrote: There is no evidence that macsed was involved any match fixing activities. Indeed, there is no concrete evidence. However, it’s worth noting that another former SC2 player, Misaki—who was also involved in match fixing—posted an accusation against JIM on April 25th (https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-737543.htm). Misaki claimed that JIM had once blackmailed a teammate (JIM was previously part of team IG, the same team as Macsed). His words were: “You (JIM) even threatened your former teammate to give you 5,000 yuan. His wife had just given birth and he had no money, but because you two had once fixed a match together, he went around borrowing money and eventually gave you the 5,000. The next day, after you lost, you shamelessly went back to threaten him again. I’m honestly surprised that everyone in the StarCraft community is so kind—no one even called the police on you.” Based on the description, the only person who fits both the criteria of being JIM’s teammate and recently having a newborn child at the time is Macsed. | ||
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deepseer
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On June 04 2025 15:23 chromdestroyer wrote: Indeed, there is no concrete evidence. However, it’s worth noting that another former SC2 player, Misaki—who was also involved in match fixing—posted an accusation against JIM on April 25th (https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-737543.htm). Misaki claimed that JIM had once blackmailed a teammate (JIM was previously part of team IG, the same team as Macsed). His words were: “You (JIM) even threatened your former teammate to give you 5,000 yuan. His wife had just given birth and he had no money, but because you two had once fixed a match together, he went around borrowing money and eventually gave you the 5,000. The next day, after you lost, you shamelessly went back to threaten him again. I’m honestly surprised that everyone in the StarCraft community is so kind—no one even called the police on you.” Based on the description, the only person who fits both the criteria of being JIM’s teammate and recently having a newborn child at the time is Macsed. It is also possible that the blackmailed player was not Macsed, but Xigua, who was married in 2015. The blackmailing happened many years before the recent accusation. Xigua was also in IG at that time. | ||
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SharkStarcraft
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digmouse
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dedede
United States38 Posts
On June 04 2025 13:47 bluerainnight wrote: My English isn't strong, so I've used AI for translation. However, I feel it's necessary to provide context regarding some of these pro-players' situations. Of course, you may choose not to believe this information. MacSed: MacSed once lost to an opponent significantly weaker than himself (2500 MMR lower than him). This led some players to accuse him of potentially match-fixing, though no concrete evidence was ever found. Setting aside this uncertainty, MacSed's career record is free of any violations. Time/Oliveira: It must be clarified that Time's offensive WeChat messages about Koreans were merely a crude joke. His relationship with Korean players is actually quite decent. Of course, you could still criticize him for having poor conduct. Coffee: In the "170610" event, Coffee was very likely an unwitting victim. At the time, after intentionally losing the match (match-fixing), Punk said to Coffee: "I made such a huge mistake (actually Punk throwing the match) to lose to you, how about sending me a red envelope (monetary gift)?" Out of their friendship, Coffee thought little of it and sent Punk a red envelope worth approximately 200 RMB. Consequently, Coffee was banned because he was found to have had monetary transactions with Punk, who was confirmed to have match-fixed. (Theoretically, the possibility of a player fixing a major tournament match for such a small sum is virtually nonexistent). This information comes from scboy-xiaose:https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-746277.htm. Having a good relationship with Korean players doesn’t excuse what he said. I doubt any of kr players even check TL, so they probably aren’t aware of it. That thread was already way too long, so I’m not going to get into it here. But personally, I don’t see comments about f*cking women or killing people as 'jokes'. I guess the only excuse I can offer for him is that he was young and easily influenced by bad people just like the one I used in Jim’s case. As for MacSed, I think the OP made a valid point regarding the unusual -1.5 line shifts. It's not rare for a player to drop a map to someone 2000 MMR lower, but the betting trends make this case seem more suspicious. | ||
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deepseer
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On June 04 2025 16:49 digmouse wrote: Unfortunately this is sort of an open secret that a bunch of older generation Chinese players have gambling problems. It's no secret that there's a gambling ring operating around Leifeng, a sponsor of many minor tournaments. They have been dubbed "the dark side of StarCraft in China". He even tried to recruit Xiaose to his group, but was rejected immediately. Most of the players involved have been inactive in major tournaments since 2020 or even before then. Firefly is an exception. | ||
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starshimada
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Saying goodbye to StarCraft 2 who have been with me in previous decade and self-recognition a match-fixing scandle happened last year Hello everyone, I am Jim. I am writing this post to say goodbye as I will not participate in any StarCraft 2 tournament. First, I admit, I had participated in match-fixing, and I am a gambler, I owed people lots of money and still haven't paid them back. In my over-a-decade StarCraft 2 career, only the first 4 year can be called as professional: I won lots of Champion within China and get Ro.4 results in some overseas event. I learned gambling since 2014 when I met Leifeng[1], it made me didn't put my attention on StarCraft and lack of practice, being overtaken by IAsonu. I even didn't have any practice before the Legacy of the Void invitation match. I feel sorry for SCboy's effort to me back then and I know I deserved all of this. If I keep practice at that time, I would not have any competitors-- my rankings in Korea sever made me feel confident that I can win again every single Chinese player, If I don't try gambling, my life would be good. I met Leifeng in 2014 and my life changed forever. I lost all my money and borrowed money from my family and friends. I still owe lots of them now, I feel sorry for those who helped me. Sigh, talk that much, let's get to the point. I come back to StarCraft 2 in March 2024, there are open qualifiers in April and I advanced to the main round. When I first came back, Firefly found me practicing everytime time I got online and we chatted a lot. I thought we were good friends at that time. In Asia qualifier[2], I met Firefly on 1st round, I called him, asked him in a low profile: I can lose the match to you; I can pay back the 3k CNY owed you in previous years and split money earned from match-fixing if you are willing to give a point back to me. He accepted happily, I won the first match according to the plot. I gave him money after that and he is happy with that. I did not ask him(Firefly) to give a single point out, he was playing against XY at that time and he said he can’t do(match-fixing) against XY as he was afraid that he would accidentally get a win, therefore I did not talk much on this and never force you. You can definitely not cooperate with me after this, I won’t find you either. But you found me on your own initiative after that, made me have to ask people to lend money for your manipulation. The 3rd match, because you were 2:0 before and still have 3 lives (to lose), you asked if we can manipulate the match against Lemon. I said yes but I did not tell you that (the betting platform did not settle and give me money) I got nothing. I did not tell you the truth because I am afraid I will lose you and not be able to make money. The 4th match (Firefly) against Coffee, I earned money and gave you 30k CNY in total. Talking about the reveal of Firefly match-fixing last October[3], the reason is that he did not want to give the 1k CNY that I lost to me– I gave him months before that and he still doesn’t care at all. It caused me to be chased for the repayment of debts and incable to manage my daily life. When I saw his contract being terminated by the team[4], I felt that we are both in hard times and I can’t bear it. At the end of the day I did not reveal any evidence for match-fixing and stopped asking for the refund. Until this year, when I saw him qualified for EWC, I tried to ask him to pay me back the money. He still does not want to talk with me and blocked me. Now I do not want that money back but what you pay instead is don’t even think about playing in the tournament(EWC)– if the tournament nowadays can tolerate match-fixing players to join in, I have nothing to say. Why did Firefly owe me the money I lost: I gave him all the money benefited from match-fixing without letting him bear any risk: no matter it is the betting website not giving the money back or the situation you think you can win the match but end up losing that no benefit is given to me, I beared all of them. There was also a match traced back to a match between Firefly vs Nanami around 20/04/2024. He told me he can get an easy win confidently. I bet he win by 3:1– he need to lose the first match because it made the result more controllable to earn money. However the website refunded the money for the first point. And he ended up losing by 1:3, the money lost for the overall result is real. Everyone can check the date(shown in the pic), I did not ask him to pay for the loss at that time and even gave him some money. Don’t think that I am trying to please you because I am taking advantage of you(Firefly), I just don’t want to lose a friend and am thinking of earning money together in the future. And then during the EWC global qualifiers, the first day you play against Ragnarok, the odds are bad that I cannot earn money from that, but you have a good performance and advance into Day 2’s match. When you faced Bunny at that time, I wanted you to do your best in the match as there are a hundred thousand dollar prize pool earnings, However you told me that you do not want to play at your best in matches you weren't sure of. I gave you money after we manipulated the results. Then at the end of July, I had the need for money, therefore I found you to give a win to your opponent as your team had no chance to advance(to the playoffs) already. But you declined with a high profile because it is the best tournament within China, then winning 2:0 against YoungYakov[5]. That’s why I turn against you. You are only willing to pay back me around 40k CNY and said I am lending money from you, you give money to me out of pity. You claimed that I am threatening to blackmail you but it is always that I lend you money to bet and manipulate the result and still need to pay another one to you; You did not give me any money when I pay you the benefit gained and I even cannot get back many of them when I bet on your match vs Lemon because of the website. I just want to take back my loss, my loss because of you. I won’t send lots of messages, following you and being blocked by you if you pay that money back. If you decide to make it to the point of no return, I am also going to do so and then retire, expose this out and not join any tournaments anymore. Finally, I hope everyone stays away from gamblers, stay away from friends who are addicted to gambling. Lending money actually hurts them, it seems to be helping them but you’re actually pushing him to the gambling hole, at least I had such an experience. Also do not have any financial dealings with friends who gamble, I have had such a tragic experience already, if I stay away from gambling I will have a very good life. Firefly, you know I am a gambler and lack of money, you still did this to me in my most desperate and urgent hour, giving a chance to live and giving me that 10k, then I can only make you end with me together, just for a breath of relieve, I do not want to see a match-fixing player going overseas and competing in tournaments. I never expected you to still play in assuredly, never talk to me or admit that you owe me money– as long as you willingly come to find me, I can still talk to you, you’re such a stubborn ass. I hope everyone in the forum can forward this to EWC officials to handle. As for the part that you want to call the police on me for blackmail and threatening, feel free. I am sorry to those who once had high expectations and helped me, except Firefly, I do not feel sorry towards you. It is you being a high profile and not giving back that 10k back to me, there is still room if you tried to talk with me. I considered the consequences for what I did today, I have nothing to lose other than my life too. If you want to call the police then do it immediately with evidence. I can also give you my ID and address. Please do it immediately! The evidence below has no particular order but they are factual. If there are any defame to you, Xue “Firefly” Tao, I will take any legal responsibility. [1]: The sponsor of Leifeng Cup [2]: ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia [3]: seemed to be https://www.scboy.cc/?user-18452.htm [4]: x.com [5]: World Team League 2024 Summer Regular Season Ro.11 - PHR8 vs OFSG Match 2 | ||
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ProTech
United States434 Posts
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bluerainnight
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On June 04 2025 17:15 dedede wrote: Having a good relationship with Korean players doesn’t excuse what he said. I doubt any of kr players even check TL, so they probably aren’t aware of it. That thread was already way too long, so I’m not going to get into it here. But personally, I don’t see comments about f*cking women or killing people as 'jokes'. I guess the only excuse I can offer for him is that he was young and easily influenced by bad people just like the one I used in Jim’s case. As for MacSed, I think the OP made a valid point regarding the unusual -1.5 line shifts. It's not rare for a player to drop a map to someone 2000 MMR lower, but the betting trends make this case seem more suspicious. I agree with that. Regardless of whether Time's remarks on WeChat were meant as a joke, this behavior should be condemned. Time has always been like this—he made many inappropriate comments when he was young, until he later matured as a professional player. Additionally, there is a further update regarding "Coffee." Coffee himself has responded to the public discussion. The authenticity of the information provided by scboy may be questionable. www.scboy.cc However, the most pressing matter at hand remains jim's accusation against firefly. Among the evidence provided by jim is a record of match-fixing in a game where firefly played against bunny. firefly has earned qualification for the Esports World Cup 2025: Asia Qualifier. If jim's allegations against him prove true, it would mean firefly engaged in match-fixing during an EWC-related series. Per the regulations, he would be disqualified and suspended. | ||
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samuelallen9
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starshimada
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On June 04 2025 17:30 starshimada wrote: Hello, this is my first time posting serious stuff on TL.net, I want to post the version of Jim's Claim translated by myself, there will be translation of the picture of the evidence later today. Saying goodbye to StarCraft 2 who have been with me in previous decade and self-recognition a match-fixing scandle happened last year Hello everyone, I am Jim. I am writing this post to say goodbye as I will not participate in any StarCraft 2 tournament. First, I admit, I had participated in match-fixing, and I am a gambler, I owed people lots of money and still haven't paid them back. In my over-a-decade StarCraft 2 career, only the first 4 year can be called as professional: I won lots of Champion within China and get Ro.4 results in some overseas event. I learned gambling since 2014 when I met Leifeng[1], it made me didn't put my attention on StarCraft and lack of practice, being overtaken by IAsonu. I even didn't have any practice before the Legacy of the Void invitation match. I feel sorry for SCboy's effort to me back then and I know I deserved all of this. If I keep practice at that time, I would not have any competitors-- my rankings in Korea sever made me feel confident that I can win again every single Chinese player, If I don't try gambling, my life would be good. I met Leifeng in 2014 and my life changed forever. I lost all my money and borrowed money from my family and friends. I still owe lots of them now, I feel sorry for those who helped me. Sigh, talk that much, let's get to the point. I come back to StarCraft 2 in March 2024, there are open qualifiers in April and I advanced to the main round. When I first came back, Firefly found me practicing everytime time I got online and we chatted a lot. I thought we were good friends at that time. In Asia qualifier[2], I met Firefly on 1st round, I called him, asked him in a low profile: I can lose the match to you; I can pay back the 3k CNY owed you in previous years and split money earned from match-fixing if you are willing to give a point back to me. He accepted happily, I won the first match according to the plot. I gave him money after that and he is happy with that. I did not ask him(Firefly) to give a single point out, he was playing against XY at that time and he said he can’t do(match-fixing) against XY as he was afraid that he would accidentally get a win, therefore I did not talk much on this and never force you. You can definitely not cooperate with me after this, I won’t find you either. But you found me on your own initiative after that, made me have to ask people to lend money for your manipulation. The 3rd match, because you were 2:0 before and still have 3 lives (to lose), you asked if we can manipulate the match against Lemon. I said yes but I did not tell you that (the betting platform did not settle and give me money) I got nothing. I did not tell you the truth because I am afraid I will lose you and not be able to make money. The 4th match (Firefly) against Coffee, I earned money and gave you 30k CNY in total. Talking about the reveal of Firefly match-fixing last October[3], the reason is that he did not want to give the 1k CNY that I lost to me– I gave him months before that and he still doesn’t care at all. It caused me to be chased for the repayment of debts and incable to manage my daily life. When I saw his contract being terminated by the team[4], I felt that we are both in hard times and I can’t bear it. At the end of the day I did not reveal any evidence for match-fixing and stopped asking for the refund. Until this year, when I saw him qualified for EWC, I tried to ask him to pay me back the money. He still does not want to talk with me and blocked me. Now I do not want that money back but what you pay instead is don’t even think about playing in the tournament(EWC)– if the tournament nowadays can tolerate match-fixing players to join in, I have nothing to say. Why did Firefly owe me the money I lost: I gave him all the money benefited from match-fixing without letting him bear any risk: no matter it is the betting website not giving the money back or the situation you think you can win the match but end up losing that no benefit is given to me, I beared all of them. There was also a match traced back to a match between Firefly vs Nanami around 20/04/2024. He told me he can get an easy win confidently. I bet he win by 3:1– he need to lose the first match because it made the result more controllable to earn money. However the website refunded the money for the first point. And he ended up losing by 1:3, the money lost for the overall result is real. Everyone can check the date(shown in the pic), I did not ask him to pay for the loss at that time and even gave him some money. Don’t think that I am trying to please you because I am taking advantage of you(Firefly), I just don’t want to lose a friend and am thinking of earning money together in the future. And then during the EWC global qualifiers, the first day you play against Ragnarok, the odds are bad that I cannot earn money from that, but you have a good performance and advance into Day 2’s match. When you faced Bunny at that time, I wanted you to do your best in the match as there are a hundred thousand dollar prize pool earnings, However you told me that you do not want to play at your best in matches you weren't sure of. I gave you money after we manipulated the results. Then at the end of July, I had the need for money, therefore I found you to give a win to your opponent as your team had no chance to advance(to the playoffs) already. But you declined with a high profile because it is the best tournament within China, then winning 2:0 against YoungYakov[5]. That’s why I turn against you. You are only willing to pay back me around 40k CNY and said I am lending money from you, you give money to me out of pity. You claimed that I am threatening to blackmail you but it is always that I lend you money to bet and manipulate the result and still need to pay another one to you; You did not give me any money when I pay you the benefit gained and I even cannot get back many of them when I bet on your match vs Lemon because of the website. I just want to take back my loss, my loss because of you. I won’t send lots of messages, following you and being blocked by you if you pay that money back. If you decide to make it to the point of no return, I am also going to do so and then retire, expose this out and not join any tournaments anymore. Finally, I hope everyone stays away from gamblers, stay away from friends who are addicted to gambling. Lending money actually hurts them, it seems to be helping them but you’re actually pushing him to the gambling hole, at least I had such an experience. Also do not have any financial dealings with friends who gamble, I have had such a tragic experience already, if I stay away from gambling I will have a very good life. Firefly, you know I am a gambler and lack of money, you still did this to me in my most desperate and urgent hour, giving a chance to live and giving me that 10k, then I can only make you end with me together, just for a breath of relieve, I do not want to see a match-fixing player going overseas and competing in tournaments. I never expected you to still play in assuredly, never talk to me or admit that you owe me money– as long as you willingly come to find me, I can still talk to you, you’re such a stubborn ass. I hope everyone in the forum can forward this to EWC officials to handle. As for the part that you want to call the police on me for blackmail and threatening, feel free. I am sorry to those who once had high expectations and helped me, except Firefly, I do not feel sorry towards you. It is you being a high profile and not giving back that 10k back to me, there is still room if you tried to talk with me. I considered the consequences for what I did today, I have nothing to lose other than my life too. If you want to call the police then do it immediately with evidence. I can also give you my ID and address. Please do it immediately! The evidence below has no particular order but they are factual. If there are any defame to you, Xue “Firefly” Tao, I will take any legal responsibility. [1]: The sponsor of Leifeng Cup [2]: ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia [3]: seemed to be https://www.scboy.cc/?user-18452.htm [4]: x.com [5]: World Team League 2024 Summer Regular Season Ro.11 - PHR8 vs OFSG Match 2 photos are given here. Some of them are duplicated but I don't have the time to screen and pick it out, only unrepeated part had been translated. I found that I failed uploading photos on tl.net so I put them at the following link: imgur.com | ||
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championiasonu
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On June 04 2025 07:50 luxon wrote: lmao first macsed, now jim and firefly. a great look for china and their scene. There is no evidence of Macsed match-fixing. His loss to a Diamond-level player in a previous match was due to underestimating his opponent and falling victim to a well-planned tactic against cannon rush. This has been confirmed by a SATL (Starcraft II Amateur Team League, a well-known league in China) staff present at the event. The Story of Macsed's Loss to the Diamond Player Recently, there was news about Macsed losing to the "Diamond Player" (an amateur player in the Diamond league). In this matter, I am one of the guilty parties because I kept urging Macsed to play faster and not drag things out against a Diamond player. I am guilty! But the story isn’t that simple—it involves many people, such as Rail and Showtime. This Diamond Player Seventy91, roughly around Diamond 3, is a Russian-speaking player from the CIS region. He’s usually quite shy during practice, so he hasn’t been "corrupted" by our dark referee group (Translator’s note: a humorous way of saying he hasn’t participated in any SATL match). Due to sharing the same language, Rail seemed to get along well with him, and the two often exchanged ideas. Not long after, it was time for the Diamond Player to face Macsed in a match. In the first game, Macsed played very cautiously, too scared to push aggressively. After the first match, I told Sed, "Play faster! He’s really just a Diamond player—why are you being so timid?" Macsed took our advice… and then got killed by a cannon rush. The interesting part came afterward. Although Sed won 2-1, for the Western players, the fact that this Diamond Player took a game off Macsed was unbelievable. Led by Showtime, some players began accusing Macsed of match-fixing, betting against himself to win money. Rail, however, was very agitated. Being Russian, his English wasn’t great, and he kept stammering, unable to articulate his thoughts clearly. Scarlett, on the other hand, dismissed the idea outright, believing Macsed would never fix a match. Then, Showtime and other Western players started analyzing all of Macsed’s mistakes in the replay. Indeed, once you lose, every mistake can be framed as evidence of match-fixing. But in the end, Rail finally made it clear what he wanted to express. His point was roughly this: The Diamond Player’s strategy was something Rail had come up with before the match. There was no way Macsed could have known about it and "cooperated" to throw the game. The strategy relied on Macsed underestimating the Diamond Player in the second game after thinking he was too weak, leading to the cannon rush. Therefore, the Diamond Player’s victory over Macsed wasn’t match-fixing—it was Rail and the Diamond Player outsmarting Sed. At this point, Showtime conceded, calling the Diamond Player "The man is a really lucky dog." However, Western players not present at WESG, led by Snute, exploded in outrage, accusing Macsed of match-fixing. Due to the language barrier, Rail didn’t step forward again to explain his genius tactical plan. And that’s the full story of Macsed’s "crushing defeat" at the hands of the Diamond Player. In the end, it was Rail being too strong and me being too bad—not Sed’s fault! This SATL staff clarified this matter on the Chinese forum, and the original text is on the 28th floor of the post: https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-178720.htm | ||
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Antithesis
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argonautdice
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deepseer
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On June 04 2025 21:09 championiasonu wrote: There is no evidence of Macsed match-fixing. His loss to a Diamond-level player in a previous match was due to underestimating his opponent and falling victim to a well-planned tactic against cannon rush. This has been confirmed by a SATL (Starcraft II Amateur Team League, a well-known league in China) staff present at the event. The Story of Macsed's Loss to the Diamond Player This SATL staff clarified this matter on the Chinese forum, and the original text is on the 28th floor of the post: https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-178720.htm It's #385 of that thread, posted on 2021-6-9. Not 28th. | ||
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ceerrep
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On June 04 2025 23:54 argonautdice wrote: I think to actually ban Firefly from EWC, the officials would need physical proof e.g. money transfer to Firefly account from a bettor who bet on Firefly losing a match. I think there are transfer records to Firefly and screenshots of Jim's bet on Firefly's loss in that thread. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44102 Posts
On June 04 2025 05:10 dedede wrote: Shit Jim was the best foreigner in WOL. Sad to see all these. This definitely isn't true. Either way, it's disappointing. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10320 Posts
It's also so sad that, even if Jim's story may be biased towards his side (we hear his qualms but not Firefly's), that Firefly did not make amends with him, leading to him being exposed. This is tragic on a personal relationship level. Of course though, they are matchfixers and neither should compete. I didn't know Firefly qualified for EWC, but I guess this may be the final straw for him if the evidence is deemed enough. Too bad. | ||
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Blitzball04
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Only one person should take his spot and represent Asia region His name is Has , Taiwan pride baby | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
Sad to see them all but confirmed I need to restart checking in to SC2 more often, finding out a matchfixing scandal and that Maru finaly won an offline event outside Korea is too much emotion for a single day lol. | ||
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Telephone
United States136 Posts
I'm not saying matchfixing did or did not happen, and if it did, the perpetrator should be disciplined accordingly. But seriously. This is just words. | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1406 Posts
We already knew about incidents like these already, really. We already knew large number of Chinese players were already involved with matchfixing but we know how it went, with it being passed on and hushed up. We don't really want to be involved with Chinese players anymore either. There's tons of story about Matchfixing and offers regardless of country, in Korea or China. But Chinese scene seem to be bit more blatant about it. Regardless of country or sports, there's always going to be people involved with illegal or shady businesses. To be perfectly honest, if you were smart and subtly fix with things like mistakes within reason and possible to do, what can you even do? There's nothing we can really do about it. So we tend to just ignore that possibility at all when we do our work, but there's always scums like that who come out of woodwork and stir things up. One really sad thing is that players who have period where they suck, like Crank, where they just play really badly and lose. And they get piled on as suspicion of matchfixing. And that's the real tragic part. https://chzzk.naver.com/video/7595889 35minish mark | ||
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AllisonLT
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On June 05 2025 09:07 Telephone wrote: How do you think this will reflect on the scene as a whole, and for the future of SC2? I think that before we jump to conclusions, we should look at the facts. Right now, to my knowledge, the main facts that we have are that someone has accused a player of matchfixing, and told a story that as yet has no documentary evidence beyond that person's word. I'm not saying matchfixing did or did not happen, and if it did, the perpetrator should be disciplined accordingly. But seriously. This is just words. The pictures include chat history between Jim and Firefly, the betting site, and transactions. I think these evidence are pretty solid. (I read Chinese.) If these pictures are translated and sort, they should be strong proof. | ||
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AlexGano
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On June 05 2025 09:07 Telephone wrote: How do you think this will reflect on the scene as a whole, and for the future of SC2? I think that before we jump to conclusions, we should look at the facts. Right now, to my knowledge, the main facts that we have are that someone has accused a player of matchfixing, and told a story that as yet has no documentary evidence beyond that person's word. I'm not saying matchfixing did or did not happen, and if it did, the perpetrator should be disciplined accordingly. But seriously. This is just words. Actually Jim has posted transfer record and chat record, his own gambling screenshot as well. It’s not even news to us Chinese players that some old players like Jim or Xigua once were or are still involved in gambling, because people in the scene or even amateur fans have more or less heard about it — some have even lent them money. And if it's allowed, fk these bugs no matter why they chose this way. | ||
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baize
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![[image loading]](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/976098998190493696/1380088350165172244/messageImage_1749107230502.jpg?ex=68429aef&is=6841496f&hm=85eeaf009b71323fd0150150ab020bee025f5efc04f32f4e1442424d14096e88&=&format=webp&width=1409&height=1125) This is the transaction record between Jim and Firefly, if you check the time and you can find out their time are closed to some games played by Firefly. ‧July 8th, 2024 00:08:50 ¥14500 → July 7th, 2024 22:55 EWC 2024 Closed Qualifier - Firefly vs Bunny ‧April 26th, 2024 22:07:45 ¥12000 → April 26th, 2024 20:50 ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia - Firefly vs Nanami ‧April 20th, 2024 22:32:15 ¥15000 → April 20th, 2024 20:15 ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia - Firefly vs Coffee ‧April 20th, 2024 21:21:14 ¥20000 → April 20th, 2024 20:15 ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia - Firefly vs Coffee ‧April 17th, 2024 21:31:39 ¥22000 → April 17th, 2024 19:30 ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia - Firefly vs Lemon ‧April 11th, 2024 23:27:10 ¥17500 → April 11th, 2024 22:00 ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia - Firefly vs Jim | ||
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Waxangel
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Kyle8
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look how much money these low-tier chinese pros could make with a single rigged series.... then look at how sc2 gamers will play a b07 for $50... | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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Telephone
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jinjin5000
United States1406 Posts
On June 05 2025 21:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote: nice to see this stuff get exposed. Kudos to Jim for coming clean. Is it really kudos when he is trying to bring firefly down with him out of spite tho lol | ||
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Pelloth99
Poland3 Posts
On June 05 2025 21:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote: nice to see this stuff get exposed. Kudos to Jim for coming clean. yes kudos to a matchfixing cunt who conveniently decided to stop matchfixing and come "clean" right after announcing he will no longer play. This is the hero we needed, hooray. Maybe you would be so kind and organize a farewell showmatch to honor this Chinese legends rich career ? | ||
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argonautdice
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MrIronGolem27
United States209 Posts
On June 06 2025 02:05 Pelloth99 wrote: yes kudos to a matchfixing cunt who conveniently decided to stop matchfixing and come "clean" right after announcing he will no longer play. This is the hero we needed, hooray. Maybe you would be so kind and organize a farewell showmatch to honor this Chinese legends rich career ? This is your first message on the forums, did you really make an account just to say this? We can commend Jim's doing the right thing here by bringing forth solid evidence for Firefly's involvement in matchfixing while simultaneously condemning his own actions and barring him from competition as well (though it seems he didn't want to play anymore, anyway). | ||
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Waxangel
United States33296 Posts
On June 05 2025 21:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote: nice to see this stuff get exposed. Kudos to Jim for coming clean. On June 06 2025 02:32 MrIronGolem27 wrote: This is your first message on the forums, did you really make an account just to say this? We can commend Jim's doing the right thing here by bringing forth solid evidence for Firefly's involvement in matchfixing while simultaneously condemning his own actions and barring him from competition as well (though it seems he didn't want to play anymore, anyway). shrug, I give Jim zero credit for only coming clean because he spitefully wanted to bring someone else down with him ya'll prolly call guys who strike plea deals with prosecutors heroes | ||
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Pelloth99
Poland3 Posts
On June 06 2025 02:32 MrIronGolem27 wrote: This is your first message on the forums, did you really make an account just to say this? We can commend Jim's doing the right thing here by bringing forth solid evidence for Firefly's involvement in matchfixing while simultaneously condemning his own actions and barring him from competition as well (though it seems he didn't want to play anymore, anyway). this is your 208th post and yet I'm here longer than you and prolly most of others but I see that according to you your voice is more important because of your "post seniority". Thank you, point not taken. If a few sentences of actual truth are so shocking to you then I don't know what to say, maybe grow some balls and acknowledge a more direct point of view instead of softening actions that are shattering the trust to the entire scene (and genre) for years. | ||
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jinjin5000
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onPHYRE
Bulgaria899 Posts
That being said, things are not always black and white. You can give him no credit and condemn what he has done while also recognizing that some good may come of it if it prevents a match fixer from participating in the world championship event. Lets hope EWS reviews, authenticates and uses the evidence to do the right thing. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16664 Posts
On June 06 2025 02:43 Waxangel wrote: shrug, I give Jim zero credit for only coming clean because he spitefully wanted to bring someone else down with him ya'll prolly call guys who strike plea deals with prosecutors heroes "kudos" to "hero" is a big leap. SC2 video game fixing and crimes requiring plea deals and prosecutors is also another big leap. the word "prolly" is doing a lot of work here. On June 06 2025 02:32 MrIronGolem27 wrote: This is your first message on the forums, did you really make an account just to say this? We can commend Jim's doing the right thing here by bringing forth solid evidence for Firefly's involvement in matchfixing while simultaneously condemning his own actions and barring him from competition as well (though it seems he didn't want to play anymore, anyway). true. All kinds of stuff, including competitive SC2, is fixed. At this point the NBA is about as real as the WWE. The Mavericks traded Doncic for what again? Oh, for the 1st over all pick even though they only had a 1.9% shot at it.. Got it. Toronto has more Italians than any city in NA other than NY. In 2006, the Toronto NBA team was run by an Italian family. The best 18 year old Italian in history was about to go #1 in the draft and Toronto had a 4% chance of winning the #1 pick in the draft lottery. What a miracle... they got it. The bottom line is: most adults are liars. | ||
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AlexGano
27 Posts
On June 05 2025 21:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote: nice to see this stuff get exposed. Kudos to Jim for coming clean. I guess you need more details about this thing. As early as last year, Jim had posted on the forum threatening to expose someone's misconduct, but that post ultimately led nowhere. At the time, we didn't know that the "someone" he mentioned referred to Firefly. Now, combined with Jim's recent statement, I think the conclusion is pretty clear. Five years ago, Jim was already using the match-fixing issue to threaten or even extort Nightbutterfly for money. And now, since his threats failed to make Firefly transfer him ten thousand RMB, he went ahead and made this post. At the very least, I believe this is a classic case of criminal extortion. Guess what? Bottom line is—people can lie, but they can't committing crimes. | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1511 Posts
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States648 Posts
On June 06 2025 10:43 CicadaSC wrote: what is the suspected match he matchfixed in? I would like to review that game. Does anyone have a vod? 🎮 Match VODs Featuring Firefly Firefly vs. Jim – April 11, 2024 Tournament: ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia Regionals Firefly vs. Lemon – April 17, 2024 Tournament: ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia Regionals Firefly vs. Coffee – April 20, 2024 Tournament: ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia Regionals Firefly vs. Nanami – April 26, 2024 Tournament: ESL SC2 Masters 2024 Spring: Asia Regionals Firefly vs. Bunny – July 7, 2024 Tournament: Esports World Cup 2024 Closed Qualifier VOD: Currently, a specific VOD for this match is not readily available. However, you can check the https://www.youtube.com/@EWC_VOD WTF did chatgpt just found all these vods for me? LOL | ||
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