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NO ONE KNOWS, AND ESL/GSL HAVE ALWAYS DRAGGED OUT MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE
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On February 03 2025 17:00 Gilgamesh_ wrote: EWC even had negative timers for the next game over the weekend xD
By the way, are there already fixed dates for EWC 25 ? Because even if they keep SC2 there will hardly be enough time for a true circuit if the "finals" is in Summer again. There is no way to have a meaningful circuit for it. So it probably would just be multiple round of regional and global qualifiers if SC2 make it to EWC this year.
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Sc2 Pro circuit had a good run if it ends now. Everything good that ESL did for the game but this announcement takes way too long. Definitely a cowardly end if it ends now not telling anything.
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On February 03 2025 21:57 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2025 17:00 Gilgamesh_ wrote: EWC even had negative timers for the next game over the weekend xD
By the way, are there already fixed dates for EWC 25 ? Because even if they keep SC2 there will hardly be enough time for a true circuit if the "finals" is in Summer again. There is no way to have a meaningful circuit for it. So it probably would just be multiple round of regional and global qualifiers if SC2 make it to EWC this year. Best case scenario tour gets announced tomorrow, there's an ESL masters in April, an ESL masters in early July, then ESWC in early August? Would be super tight, regionals might have to be shrunk.
At this point I'd be happy with a single large offline tournament pre EWC that serves as a qualifier.
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I just cancelled my GSL patreon monthly, since there's been no announcement of any tournaments. They still took money last month, too
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On February 04 2025 10:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:I just cancelled my GSL patreon monthly, since there's been no announcement of any tournaments. They still took money last month, too ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif)
That's kind of shoddy I have to say. If you still have an active Patreon, i feel like you have to let people know what their money currently goes towards..
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On February 04 2025 17:06 SharkStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2025 10:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:I just cancelled my GSL patreon monthly, since there's been no announcement of any tournaments. They still took money last month, too ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) That's kind of shoddy I have to say. If you still have an active Patreon, i feel like you have to let people know what their money currently goes towards..
Probably the guy managing Patreon no longer works there
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On February 04 2025 17:18 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2025 17:06 SharkStarcraft wrote:On February 04 2025 10:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:I just cancelled my GSL patreon monthly, since there's been no announcement of any tournaments. They still took money last month, too ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) That's kind of shoddy I have to say. If you still have an active Patreon, i feel like you have to let people know what their money currently goes towards.. Probably the guy managing Patreon no longer works there
This, or they forgot about the Patreon, or they don't care and take the free $$$ - in any case, it's a really really bad look. That's just no way to treat the people who saved you from going out of business a couple (?) years earlier than you did!
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On February 04 2025 10:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:I just cancelled my GSL patreon monthly, since there's been no announcement of any tournaments. They still took money last month, too ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif)
Oh that's pretty weird—didn't they pause payments between seasons when the league was still active? Wonder what's up there.
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All but one of the EWC to-be-announced games had their "announcement" dates changed now to the end of this month. Lol.
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On February 04 2025 17:06 SharkStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2025 10:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:I just cancelled my GSL patreon monthly, since there's been no announcement of any tournaments. They still took money last month, too ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) That's kind of shoddy I have to say. If you still have an active Patreon, i feel like you have to let people know what their money currently goes towards..
Shouldn't you be able to refund your Patreon/report them? Which honestly, seems fair. It's not like Afreeca went out of business or anything, they are still up and kicking. Feels like a shady way to just put an extra buck aside. ...or, which is absolutely possible and realistic, they just care so little about their international fans (so like...95% of their fans) that they just forgot about it
All but one of the EWC to-be-announced games had their "announcement" dates changed now to the end of this month. Lol.
Can't wait for 2034, when we celebrate the 10th anniversary of EWC. Maybe they even announce the last few games for 2025!
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This is btw how it looks when a Microsoft developer is all-out for their RTS. AoE, without ESL, being alive, kicking and getting four DLCs released this year across three games, while we Starcraft-Fans can't even get a simple yes/no answer if there will be some kind of tournament this year :<
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On February 05 2025 04:39 Balnazza wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2025 17:06 SharkStarcraft wrote:On February 04 2025 10:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:I just cancelled my GSL patreon monthly, since there's been no announcement of any tournaments. They still took money last month, too ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) That's kind of shoddy I have to say. If you still have an active Patreon, i feel like you have to let people know what their money currently goes towards.. Shouldn't you be able to refund your Patreon/report them? Which honestly, seems fair. It's not like Afreeca went out of business or anything, they are still up and kicking. Feels like a shady way to just put an extra buck aside. ...or, which is absolutely possible and realistic, they just care so little about their international fans (so like...95% of their fans) that they just forgot about it Show nested quote + All but one of the EWC to-be-announced games had their "announcement" dates changed now to the end of this month. Lol.
Can't wait for 2034, when we celebrate the 10th anniversary of EWC. Maybe they even announce the last few games for 2025!
Mr. Chae, who used to work for GSL and then Afreeca, posted on Reddit a week or two ago that he thinks the Patreon is only up because they forgot about it and that last GSL was definitely the last one.
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On February 05 2025 03:36 Pandain wrote: All but one of the EWC to-be-announced games had their "announcement" dates changed now to the end of this month. Lol.
Yeah they change those on a daily basis. Can't really hold those placeholders accountable for any announcement. At this point it's basically somewhere between "SoonTM" and "When it's finishedTM"
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Well, one announcement done, 5 to go. It is *drumroll* Fatal Fury, a fighting game
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On February 07 2025 18:40 Harris1st wrote: Well, one announcement done, 5 to go. It is *drumroll* Fatal Fury, a fighting game
That one is weird but makes sense, since the developer SNK was bought out by a Saudi entity in 2022 (I think this one is literally owned by MBS), and Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves is their newest title.
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february... how long do we have to wait? i was originally not caring very much but even I am starting to get annoyed by the delays. My best cope analysis now is that they are gonna do one big announcement when EWC does their big unveil of StarCraft I guess ESL will announce their circuit at the same time with tournaments awarding qualifying spots for EWC sort of like they used to do for Katowice.
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On February 09 2025 10:33 CicadaSC wrote: february... how long do we have to wait? i was originally not caring very much but even I am starting to get annoyed by the delays. My best cope analysis now is that they are gonna do one big announcement when EWC does their big unveil of StarCraft I guess ESL will announce their circuit at the same time with tournaments awarding qualifying spots for EWC sort of like they used to do for Katowice.
I hope you're right, the main argument for it is that if ESL esports was discontinued we'd probably have heard something.
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I can only speculate myself but for me delays initially are a bad sign but further delays I see as more positive. If you assume this means there still IS conversation about if its included. Since its so little time to run a proper circuit I would also hope that whoever talks comes to the conclusion that they should commit to at least 2 years IF they decide to commit.
Having such a long delay again 2026 - no one needs that.
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