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The ESL Pro Tour has been discontinued.

No announcement has been made regarding the GSL.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1361 Posts
April 04 2025 19:42 GMT
#361
On April 05 2025 04:03 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2025 03:54 Balnazza wrote:
On April 05 2025 03:38 CicadaSC wrote:
I would love if Rotterdam, Wardi, or any other big community member could say "hey guys! I know it sucks ESL is not doing another pro circuit but I want SC2 esports to continue, and im sure a lot of you guys want it to as well. Here is a patreon where 100% of the funding will go into a year-long circuit." and the community could rally behind that as being the main league. I think a lot of people would contribute. Of course, it is a lot to ask for and a lot of responsibility on their shoulders, and a lot of people have families and other commitments but I really think one centralized place where people could donate to and fund tournaments would be much better than 15 different commentators trying to fund their own tournies. I hope we can get it centralized again somehow. I know Totalbiscuit would have tried. Miss that guy.


From experience with other games: You can't donate for a "year-long circuit". It is too vague, you need too much money, the fluctuation is too high and the community does not have an "immediate" payoff.
Not to mention someone actually would have to keep all that money in the bank for a year, which might bring in some tax problems aswell.

The way PiG does it seems much better: Just collect donations for one tournament, even capping the prizepool of the tournament (giving over any excess donations to the next). That way, everyone knows exactly what they are donating for and get an immediate "payout".

What could be done is something like the "Warcraft Pro League" (see here). Tournaments of different hosts get connected by a point-system and in the end there are "Finals", but the donations for the finals are only done later on.

Ehh, GSL does it where u are essentially donating to one tournament after another. Their patreon is rolling and still running despite there not being a tournament for a while. I think their system would be great with a little more communication and instead you just turn it into a global online league (or whatever the tournament organizer envisions). In fact, I like that idea so much I think SOOP should be the ones to do this lol. Announce it at the next GSL you will have a cap ($20k or whatever per GSL) and any further donations exceeding that go towards running a global online tournament.


Yes, but you donate for the next tournament. Not for an entire year. There is a difference.

Also, no offense, but SOOP would be the worst company to give SC2 into. They clearly do not care about the game at all. Combined with the fact that they also absolutely do not care about their international viewership (them being a korea-only company whos streaming service sucks major ass compared to Twitch or Youtube btw...) they have absolutely no business running anything SC2-related that isn't GSL...and quite honestly, they can't even do that right...
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1992 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-04 20:20:56
April 04 2025 20:12 GMT
#362
On April 05 2025 04:42 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2025 04:03 CicadaSC wrote:
On April 05 2025 03:54 Balnazza wrote:
On April 05 2025 03:38 CicadaSC wrote:
I would love if Rotterdam, Wardi, or any other big community member could say "hey guys! I know it sucks ESL is not doing another pro circuit but I want SC2 esports to continue, and im sure a lot of you guys want it to as well. Here is a patreon where 100% of the funding will go into a year-long circuit." and the community could rally behind that as being the main league. I think a lot of people would contribute. Of course, it is a lot to ask for and a lot of responsibility on their shoulders, and a lot of people have families and other commitments but I really think one centralized place where people could donate to and fund tournaments would be much better than 15 different commentators trying to fund their own tournies. I hope we can get it centralized again somehow. I know Totalbiscuit would have tried. Miss that guy.


From experience with other games: You can't donate for a "year-long circuit". It is too vague, you need too much money, the fluctuation is too high and the community does not have an "immediate" payoff.
Not to mention someone actually would have to keep all that money in the bank for a year, which might bring in some tax problems aswell.

The way PiG does it seems much better: Just collect donations for one tournament, even capping the prizepool of the tournament (giving over any excess donations to the next). That way, everyone knows exactly what they are donating for and get an immediate "payout".

What could be done is something like the "Warcraft Pro League" (see here). Tournaments of different hosts get connected by a point-system and in the end there are "Finals", but the donations for the finals are only done later on.

Ehh, GSL does it where u are essentially donating to one tournament after another. Their patreon is rolling and still running despite there not being a tournament for a while. I think their system would be great with a little more communication and instead you just turn it into a global online league (or whatever the tournament organizer envisions). In fact, I like that idea so much I think SOOP should be the ones to do this lol. Announce it at the next GSL you will have a cap ($20k or whatever per GSL) and any further donations exceeding that go towards running a global online tournament.


Yes, but you donate for the next tournament. Not for an entire year. There is a difference.

Also, no offense, but SOOP would be the worst company to give SC2 into. They clearly do not care about the game at all. Combined with the fact that they also absolutely do not care about their international viewership (them being a korea-only company whos streaming service sucks major ass compared to Twitch or Youtube btw...) they have absolutely no business running anything SC2-related that isn't GSL...and quite honestly, they can't even do that right...

SOOP exclusively as a platform does suck when everything is on twitch or YouTube but I mean, I would put up with it if it meant more SC2.
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