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Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1847 Posts
April 19 2024 16:58 GMT
#21
On April 19 2024 21:36 PtitDrogo wrote:
Not quite sure how people can look at this list of players and think this isn't a super stacked tournament lol


Common sense isn't a requirement for posting
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Telephone
Profile Joined October 2010
United States138 Posts
April 19 2024 17:15 GMT
#22
You guys are totally right, the EU regional is obviously more prestigious and important. Classic and Bunny don't stand a chance against the likes of Harstem and Krystianer, who made it into the ro16 right away.

Depth of a tournament doesn't matter either, it's not like Serral could ever lose in the round of 8 to a player like Ragnarok.

Was that enough sarcasm?
kennytennyson2
Profile Joined April 2023
31 Posts
April 19 2024 18:22 GMT
#23
I wonder if the groups will be made randomly or drawn. I would prefer a draw and see how the players would banter, especially with Reynor there spicing things up
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1600 Posts
April 19 2024 19:07 GMT
#24
No classic is a true shame.
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10325 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-19 22:12:04
April 19 2024 20:43 GMT
#25
Players from EU/NA that have, or would have a decent chance to qualify to a Ro16 GSL if they tried (and if they tried for multiple seasons like players living in KR do, they would probably qualify once in a while at least):

Serral
Reynor
Clem
HeroMarine
Showtime
Scarlett (already has multiple times)
Astrea (already has multiple times)

Sure Serral lost to SHIN before. But Rogue lost to Scarlett, and Maru lost to Oliveira. Not sure there's a big difference there. Occasional upsets are normal, even Creator beating Maru before.

Other examples of players that could qualify once in a while, similar to historically "fringe" players like Ryung or Nightmare
(These players have many victories over GSL players in international tournaments):
Wayne
Skillous
Kelazhur
Harstem (maybe, he's on the come up and it seems like 2024 will be the year of Harstem)

No bias here, just observing which GSL players have a hard time vs which EU/NA players from the tournies I watch, and which ones have been able to beat GSL players in international tournaments.

GSL unfortunately is no longer clearly the top 10-15 players. I think it's only safe to say they have they have say, maybe 5 out of the 10 best players in the world, or 6 to be generous if we exclude Maxpax:
Serral Reynor Clem HeroMarine + Maru Dark herO Cure Solar Gumiho (maybe Byun instead).

Maybe KR has 8-9 of the best 15 players in the world cus then you can add in Oliveira and maybe Firefly for example.
Yes KR does have a little more depth than EU/NA at that high tier range under the top tier (players like Creator, DRG, Bunny), but then it might fall off again if you go to the mid tier below that with EU/NA having much more competitors who can cause upsets occasionally (like Spirit beating Creator at Gamers8), whereas it seems the mid tier for KR is basically not there (GSL qualifiers only having like 20-25 people who try each season), maybe you can count players who struggle to qualify most of the time and get knocked out first round of GSL like sOs, TY, or soO as the mid tier (or good ole Keen who seems to finally have stopped, or maybe Rebellion who seems to be working very hard to qualify), but it seems there are very few active competitors in KR now unfortunately.
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
April 19 2024 20:52 GMT
#26
On April 20 2024 05:43 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Players from EU/NA that have, or would have a decent chance to qualify to a Ro16 GSL if they tried (and if they tried for multiple seasons like players living in KR do, they would probably qualify once in a while at least):

Serral
Reynor
Clem
HeroMarine
Showtime
Scarlett (already has multiple times)
Astrea (already has multiple times)

Sure Serral lost to SHIN before. But Rogue lost to Scarlett, and Maru lost to Oliveira. Not sure there's a big difference there. Occasional upsets are normal, even Creator beating Maru before.

Other examples of players that could qualify once in a while, similar to historically "fringe" players like Ryung or Nightmare
(These players have many victories over GSL players in international tournaments):
Wayne
Skillous
Kelazhur
Harstem (maybe, he's on the come up and it seems like 2024 will be the year of Harstem)

No bias here, just observing which GSL players have a hard time vs which EU/NA players from the tournies I watch, and which ones have been able to beat GSL players in international tournaments.

GSL unfortunately is no longer clearly the top 10-15 players. I think it's only safe to say they have they have say, maybe 5 out of the 10 best players in the world, or 6 to be generous if we exclude Maxpax: Serral Reynor Clem HeroMarine + Maru Dark herO Cure Solar Gumiho.
Maybe KR has 8-9 of the best 15 players in the world cus then you can add in Oliveira and maybe Firefly for example.
Yes KR does have a little more depth than EU/NA at that high tier range under the top tier (players like Creator, DRG, Bunny), but then it might fall off again if you go to the mid tier below that with EU/NA having much more competitors who can cause upsets occasionally (like Spirit beating Creator at Gamers8), whereas it seems the mid tier for KR is basically not there (GSL qualifiers only having like 20-25 people who try each season), maybe you can count players who struggle to qualify most of the time and get knocked out first round of GSL like sOs, TY, or soO as the mid tier.


All of this is pretty much spot on in my book
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25029 Posts
April 19 2024 21:38 GMT
#27
Aye there was a time where if you took the best 50 players in the world, maybe a handful, if even that were non-Korean. Too many to even fit into a Ro32, and we frequently saw big names, even champions fall out in qualifying.

Nowadays you’re missing a couple of foreigners who would enhance the championship contender side of the field, which is also smaller, and probably a handful who are equivalent in level to some of the Ro16 level players at worst and you could swap them around without denting the overall level.

I don’t want to dwell too much on it as I’m still pumped for Code S, but it does feel that Korean SC2 was really left to wither, right at the time the foreign scene nailed the talent pipeline.

Is just a shame we couldn’t have seen the rise of some top notch foreign talent into a scene where Kr wasn’t declining year-on-year

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Woosixion
Profile Joined February 2012
118 Posts
April 20 2024 02:21 GMT
#28
bruh... rogue hasnt even been out of the military for a month and he already qualified? wow
the only way out is through...
johnnyh123
Profile Joined February 2023
107 Posts
April 20 2024 02:36 GMT
#29
Rogue, TY, Reynor? I want to see these qualifiers!

Sad to see Classic go though, Protoss underrepresented.
Locutos
Profile Joined January 2017
Brazil259 Posts
April 20 2024 21:01 GMT
#30
On April 20 2024 02:15 Telephone wrote:
You guys are totally right, the EU regional is obviously more prestigious and important. Classic and Bunny don't stand a chance against the likes of Harstem and Krystianer, who made it into the ro16 right away.

Depth of a tournament doesn't matter either, it's not like Serral could ever lose in the round of 8 to a player like Ragnarok.

Was that enough sarcasm?



In any given tournament, Serral could.

But for the span of several a year, and across some 20 in the last 6 years... imagine how many Serral, Reynor and Clem would have won, had they participated in all of them.

For that, just estrapolate the premier internationals that they won, with top korean participation.

lokol4890
Profile Joined May 2023
108 Posts
April 20 2024 21:34 GMT
#31
On April 21 2024 06:01 Locutos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2024 02:15 Telephone wrote:
You guys are totally right, the EU regional is obviously more prestigious and important. Classic and Bunny don't stand a chance against the likes of Harstem and Krystianer, who made it into the ro16 right away.

Depth of a tournament doesn't matter either, it's not like Serral could ever lose in the round of 8 to a player like Ragnarok.

Was that enough sarcasm?



In any given tournament, Serral could.

But for the span of several a year, and across some 20 in the last 6 years... imagine how many Serral, Reynor and Clem would have won, had they participated in all of them.

For that, just estrapolate the premier internationals that they won, with top korean participation.



Serral maybe, but we'll never know because he never participated. Reynor has participated twice and lost both times. And clem won one premier event with top korean participation. I don't think the trifecta would do as well as you think they would
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25029 Posts
April 20 2024 21:49 GMT
#32
On April 21 2024 06:34 lokol4890 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2024 06:01 Locutos wrote:
On April 20 2024 02:15 Telephone wrote:
You guys are totally right, the EU regional is obviously more prestigious and important. Classic and Bunny don't stand a chance against the likes of Harstem and Krystianer, who made it into the ro16 right away.

Depth of a tournament doesn't matter either, it's not like Serral could ever lose in the round of 8 to a player like Ragnarok.

Was that enough sarcasm?



In any given tournament, Serral could.

But for the span of several a year, and across some 20 in the last 6 years... imagine how many Serral, Reynor and Clem would have won, had they participated in all of them.

For that, just estrapolate the premier internationals that they won, with top korean participation.



Serral maybe, but we'll never know because he never participated. Reynor has participated twice and lost both times. And clem won one premier event with top korean participation. I don't think the trifecta would do as well as you think they would

In fairness Reynor made the Ro16 almost ahead of schedule, before he was even making a dent in WCS due to the age laws there. But his first round exit after he’d established himself as a top player does illustrate the perils of assuming things.

For my money it’s almost inconceivable Serral post 2017 wouldn’t have won at least a couple. Not impossible, but unlikely. And even seasons he wouldn’t necessarily win himself, or even place super deep he could easily knock out a Maru in a Ro8 or w/e.

Reynor, more streaky but when he’s on, he’s on. Probably takes home at least one. Again, not impossible he doesn’t.

Clem for me is a little more hot and cold again. Plus unlike Serral and Maru he’s only relatively recently hit the level he’s at. I think he’d enhance the level of the tournament now for sure, but you can’t parachute him back in the same way. 2018 Clem isn’t 2018 Serral.

I think the foreigners could pick up a handful, but I think their biggest impact would be in stopping Maru picking up quite so many titles as he has, especially now. Unless he has an off day there’s very few in this field who can beat Maru with any kind of consistency. Serral and Reynor can beat a Maru that is playing well and I think that alone would be a fun shakeup

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Locutos
Profile Joined January 2017
Brazil259 Posts
April 21 2024 19:02 GMT
#33
On April 21 2024 06:34 lokol4890 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2024 06:01 Locutos wrote:
On April 20 2024 02:15 Telephone wrote:
You guys are totally right, the EU regional is obviously more prestigious and important. Classic and Bunny don't stand a chance against the likes of Harstem and Krystianer, who made it into the ro16 right away.

Depth of a tournament doesn't matter either, it's not like Serral could ever lose in the round of 8 to a player like Ragnarok.

Was that enough sarcasm?



In any given tournament, Serral could.

But for the span of several a year, and across some 20 in the last 6 years... imagine how many Serral, Reynor and Clem would have won, had they participated in all of them.

For that, just estrapolate the premier internationals that they won, with top korean participation.



Serral maybe, but we'll never know because he never participated. Reynor has participated twice and lost both times. And clem won one premier event with top korean participation. I don't think the trifecta would do as well as you think they would


Someone correct if i am wrong.... but i think that in All the times Serral has stepped in Korean soil to play a premier tournament, he has won it.

Right?
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4400 Posts
April 21 2024 19:59 GMT
#34
On April 21 2024 06:49 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2024 06:34 lokol4890 wrote:
On April 21 2024 06:01 Locutos wrote:
On April 20 2024 02:15 Telephone wrote:
You guys are totally right, the EU regional is obviously more prestigious and important. Classic and Bunny don't stand a chance against the likes of Harstem and Krystianer, who made it into the ro16 right away.

Depth of a tournament doesn't matter either, it's not like Serral could ever lose in the round of 8 to a player like Ragnarok.

Was that enough sarcasm?



In any given tournament, Serral could.

But for the span of several a year, and across some 20 in the last 6 years... imagine how many Serral, Reynor and Clem would have won, had they participated in all of them.

For that, just estrapolate the premier internationals that they won, with top korean participation.



Serral maybe, but we'll never know because he never participated. Reynor has participated twice and lost both times. And clem won one premier event with top korean participation. I don't think the trifecta would do as well as you think they would

In fairness Reynor made the Ro16 almost ahead of schedule, before he was even making a dent in WCS due to the age laws there. But his first round exit after he’d established himself as a top player does illustrate the perils of assuming things.

For my money it’s almost inconceivable Serral post 2017 wouldn’t have won at least a couple. Not impossible, but unlikely. And even seasons he wouldn’t necessarily win himself, or even place super deep he could easily knock out a Maru in a Ro8 or w/e.

Reynor, more streaky but when he’s on, he’s on. Probably takes home at least one. Again, not impossible he doesn’t.

Clem for me is a little more hot and cold again. Plus unlike Serral and Maru he’s only relatively recently hit the level he’s at. I think he’d enhance the level of the tournament now for sure, but you can’t parachute him back in the same way. 2018 Clem isn’t 2018 Serral.

I think the foreigners could pick up a handful, but I think their biggest impact would be in stopping Maru picking up quite so many titles as he has, especially now. Unless he has an off day there’s very few in this field who can beat Maru with any kind of consistency. Serral and Reynor can beat a Maru that is playing well and I think that alone would be a fun shakeup



This is probably all true to some extent. Though I do think Maru in GSL would do better vs Serral/Reynor than Maru in internationals does against them (though he already does pretty dang well against Reynor). He does better vs most other players in GSL after all.

Also, while Maru may win less GSLs in a hypothetical world where Serral plays in it regularly, Serral also has many hypotheticals that may have resulted in him winning a lot less events as well. What if region lock wasn't a thing at the dreamhacks from 2017-2019, what if HSC never had GSL conflicts and paid enough for all top Koreans to want to attend, what it Blizzcon didn't force half KR/half non-KR distribution, what if the online season finals didn't limit KR to 6 players etc. In my opinion a world where all top Koreans are at every single event besides regionals would decrease Serral's trophy count and money won a lot more than Serral/Reynor being in GSL would decrease Maru's.
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria908 Posts
April 21 2024 20:06 GMT
#35
On April 22 2024 04:02 Locutos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2024 06:34 lokol4890 wrote:
On April 21 2024 06:01 Locutos wrote:
On April 20 2024 02:15 Telephone wrote:
You guys are totally right, the EU regional is obviously more prestigious and important. Classic and Bunny don't stand a chance against the likes of Harstem and Krystianer, who made it into the ro16 right away.

Depth of a tournament doesn't matter either, it's not like Serral could ever lose in the round of 8 to a player like Ragnarok.

Was that enough sarcasm?



In any given tournament, Serral could.

But for the span of several a year, and across some 20 in the last 6 years... imagine how many Serral, Reynor and Clem would have won, had they participated in all of them.

For that, just estrapolate the premier internationals that they won, with top korean participation.



Serral maybe, but we'll never know because he never participated. Reynor has participated twice and lost both times. And clem won one premier event with top korean participation. I don't think the trifecta would do as well as you think they would


Someone correct if i am wrong.... but i think that in All the times Serral has stepped in Korean soil to play a premier tournament, he has won it.

Right?


Pretty much this..
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25029 Posts
April 21 2024 21:03 GMT
#36
On April 22 2024 04:59 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2024 06:49 WombaT wrote:
On April 21 2024 06:34 lokol4890 wrote:
On April 21 2024 06:01 Locutos wrote:
On April 20 2024 02:15 Telephone wrote:
You guys are totally right, the EU regional is obviously more prestigious and important. Classic and Bunny don't stand a chance against the likes of Harstem and Krystianer, who made it into the ro16 right away.

Depth of a tournament doesn't matter either, it's not like Serral could ever lose in the round of 8 to a player like Ragnarok.

Was that enough sarcasm?



In any given tournament, Serral could.

But for the span of several a year, and across some 20 in the last 6 years... imagine how many Serral, Reynor and Clem would have won, had they participated in all of them.

For that, just estrapolate the premier internationals that they won, with top korean participation.



Serral maybe, but we'll never know because he never participated. Reynor has participated twice and lost both times. And clem won one premier event with top korean participation. I don't think the trifecta would do as well as you think they would

In fairness Reynor made the Ro16 almost ahead of schedule, before he was even making a dent in WCS due to the age laws there. But his first round exit after he’d established himself as a top player does illustrate the perils of assuming things.

For my money it’s almost inconceivable Serral post 2017 wouldn’t have won at least a couple. Not impossible, but unlikely. And even seasons he wouldn’t necessarily win himself, or even place super deep he could easily knock out a Maru in a Ro8 or w/e.

Reynor, more streaky but when he’s on, he’s on. Probably takes home at least one. Again, not impossible he doesn’t.

Clem for me is a little more hot and cold again. Plus unlike Serral and Maru he’s only relatively recently hit the level he’s at. I think he’d enhance the level of the tournament now for sure, but you can’t parachute him back in the same way. 2018 Clem isn’t 2018 Serral.

I think the foreigners could pick up a handful, but I think their biggest impact would be in stopping Maru picking up quite so many titles as he has, especially now. Unless he has an off day there’s very few in this field who can beat Maru with any kind of consistency. Serral and Reynor can beat a Maru that is playing well and I think that alone would be a fun shakeup



This is probably all true to some extent. Though I do think Maru in GSL would do better vs Serral/Reynor than Maru in internationals does against them (though he already does pretty dang well against Reynor). He does better vs most other players in GSL after all.

Also, while Maru may win less GSLs in a hypothetical world where Serral plays in it regularly, Serral also has many hypotheticals that may have resulted in him winning a lot less events as well. What if region lock wasn't a thing at the dreamhacks from 2017-2019, what if HSC never had GSL conflicts and paid enough for all top Koreans to want to attend, what it Blizzcon didn't force half KR/half non-KR distribution, what if the online season finals didn't limit KR to 6 players etc. In my opinion a world where all top Koreans are at every single event besides regionals would decrease Serral's trophy count and money won a lot more than Serral/Reynor being in GSL would decrease Maru's.

Almost certainly but that’s redoing the entire circuit for a hypothetical rather than one tournament. But yes that would have that effect.

I’m less considering 4-peat Maru/quest to G5L Maru, and Maru after that, especially very recently. He’s quite possibly going to get the 2xG5L at this rate, and it’s pretty clear nobody can really beat him and it’s a bit meh when you have a guy with a 70%ish win rate against him, who smacked him in a WC final not competing.

I don’t diminish the 4-peat at all, Maru ran a veritable gauntlet of players who, back then were all plenty capable of taking him down
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rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
279 Posts
April 21 2024 22:43 GMT
#37
On April 22 2024 04:02 Locutos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2024 06:34 lokol4890 wrote:
On April 21 2024 06:01 Locutos wrote:
On April 20 2024 02:15 Telephone wrote:
You guys are totally right, the EU regional is obviously more prestigious and important. Classic and Bunny don't stand a chance against the likes of Harstem and Krystianer, who made it into the ro16 right away.

Depth of a tournament doesn't matter either, it's not like Serral could ever lose in the round of 8 to a player like Ragnarok.

Was that enough sarcasm?



In any given tournament, Serral could.

But for the span of several a year, and across some 20 in the last 6 years... imagine how many Serral, Reynor and Clem would have won, had they participated in all of them.

For that, just estrapolate the premier internationals that they won, with top korean participation.



Serral maybe, but we'll never know because he never participated. Reynor has participated twice and lost both times. And clem won one premier event with top korean participation. I don't think the trifecta would do as well as you think they would


Someone correct if i am wrong.... but i think that in All the times Serral has stepped in Korean soil to play a premier tournament, he has won it.

Right?


I think this perfectly encapsulates the misunderstanding of GSL (not trying to throw shade, it’s a very common misconception). GSL has not been the hardest tournament to win because it’s on Korean soil. It—along with some other former Koreign individual leagues—has been the hardest tournament to win because it was extremely hard to qualify for, extremely hard to advance out of the group stages, and extremely hard to prepare for. There are player pool, game structure, and tournament format dynamics at play here that are largely lost in the conversation unless you follow or play other competitive strategy games. GSL has definitely dropped off, but it is still an extremely competitive and difficult tournament to win, and anyone who thinks any player is guaranteed a win in any number of attempts is wishfully thinking.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10325 Posts
April 22 2024 11:00 GMT
#38
(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2024/Season 2

Groups are out!

Group A: Creator has a good chance to make it out if he can beat SHIN. Would be embarassing to lose to TY.
Group B: Reynor will probably make it out over Gumiho. Could be a hype match vs herO too.
Group C: Holy crap Rogue Dark Stats Cure, group of death easily.
Group D: Anyone has a good chance to make it out, though Solar Byun are a little favored.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6887 Posts
April 22 2024 11:25 GMT
#39
On April 22 2024 20:00 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
(Wiki)Global StarCraft II League/2024/Season 2

Groups are out!

Group A: Creator has a good chance to make it out if he can beat SHIN. Would be embarassing to lose to TY.
Group B: Reynor will probably make it out over Gumiho. Could be a hype match vs herO too.
Group C: Holy crap Rogue Dark Stats Cure, group of death easily.
Group D: Anyone has a good chance to make it out, though Solar Byun are a little favored.


A: Maru, Shin
B: herO, Reynor
C: Cure, NO IDEA
D: Solar, Byun
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3342 Posts
April 22 2024 12:01 GMT
#40
So if the order they show in the post is the same as the draft order, why the HELL did herO pick Reynor first.
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