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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
April 22 2024 12:14 GMT
#41
On April 22 2024 21:01 tigera6 wrote:
So if the order they show in the post is the same as the draft order, why the HELL did herO pick Reynor first.


Do GSL still has the group nomination like before?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10347 Posts
April 22 2024 13:13 GMT
#42
On April 22 2024 21:14 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2024 21:01 tigera6 wrote:
So if the order they show in the post is the same as the draft order, why the HELL did herO pick Reynor first.


Do GSL still has the group nomination like before?


They did last season IIRC, they had the players on webcams and they recorded it and edited it into a vid that they played during GSL breaks
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-22 13:20:11
April 22 2024 13:19 GMT
#43
On April 22 2024 22:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2024 21:14 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:01 tigera6 wrote:
So if the order they show in the post is the same as the draft order, why the HELL did herO pick Reynor first.


Do GSL still has the group nomination like before?


They did last season IIRC, they had the players on webcams and they recorded it and edited it into a vid that they played during GSL breaks


I am thinking that Maru, the holder right of first seed swaps Reynor with the one in his group if swapping is allowed too.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
lokol4890
Profile Joined May 2023
114 Posts
April 22 2024 14:05 GMT
#44
On April 22 2024 22:19 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2024 22:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:14 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:01 tigera6 wrote:
So if the order they show in the post is the same as the draft order, why the HELL did herO pick Reynor first.


Do GSL still has the group nomination like before?


They did last season IIRC, they had the players on webcams and they recorded it and edited it into a vid that they played during GSL breaks


I am thinking that Maru, the holder right of first seed swaps Reynor with the one in his group if swapping is allowed too.


In this scenario who would've picked reynor in group A?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-22 14:52:30
April 22 2024 14:51 GMT
#45
[image loading]


Looks like we get some really balanced groups, Group D seems a bit easier than the others, and damn look at Group C!
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-22 15:27:19
April 22 2024 15:24 GMT
#46
On April 22 2024 23:05 lokol4890 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2024 22:19 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 22:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:14 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:01 tigera6 wrote:
So if the order they show in the post is the same as the draft order, why the HELL did herO pick Reynor first.


Do GSL still has the group nomination like before?


They did last season IIRC, they had the players on webcams and they recorded it and edited it into a vid that they played during GSL breaks


I am thinking that Maru, the holder right of first seed swaps Reynor with the one in his group if swapping is allowed too.


In this scenario who would've picked reynor in group A?


One of TY or Creator? It is also possible for herO to choose Shin/Ragnarok after the latter's inconsistencies in ZvP. Shin got demolished 4-0 by Stats during the previous season. It is also possible the swapping doesn't happen as Maru is fully satisfied with all members in his group.

Disclaimer: This claim may be true if the swapping is still allowed, otherwise just like the normal group nomination.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1886 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-22 15:39:12
April 22 2024 15:38 GMT
#47
On April 23 2024 00:24 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2024 23:05 lokol4890 wrote:
On April 22 2024 22:19 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 22:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:14 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:01 tigera6 wrote:
So if the order they show in the post is the same as the draft order, why the HELL did herO pick Reynor first.


Do GSL still has the group nomination like before?


They did last season IIRC, they had the players on webcams and they recorded it and edited it into a vid that they played during GSL breaks


I am thinking that Maru, the holder right of first seed swaps Reynor with the one in his group if swapping is allowed too.


In this scenario who would've picked reynor in group A?


One of TY or Creator? It is also possible for herO to choose Shin/Ragnarok after the latter's inconsistencies in ZvP. Shin got demolished 4-0 by Stats during the previous season. It is also possible the swapping doesn't happen as Maru is fully satisfied with all members in his group.

Disclaimer: This claim may be true if the swapping is still allowed, otherwise just like the normal group nomination.


Re: Group B, soO told me how the picks went. herO > Reynor > soO > GuMiho. The picture of the groups accurately displays the order in which the players were chosen.
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
April 22 2024 15:44 GMT
#48
On April 22 2024 23:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
[image loading]


Looks like we get some really balanced groups, Group D seems a bit easier than the others, and damn look at Group C!


1. Dark advances in first place if Cure beats Rogue.
2. Rogue advances in first place if he beats both Cure and Dark.
3. Stats advances in first place if he beats both Dark and Rogue.
4. Cure advances in first place if he beats both Rogue and Stats.

1-2 scenario is 50-50, while no.3 scenario is likely to happen compared to no.4 as Stats may no longer has trouble facing Zerg players so he may survive in first place.


Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
April 22 2024 15:44 GMT
#49
On April 23 2024 00:38 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2024 00:24 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 23:05 lokol4890 wrote:
On April 22 2024 22:19 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 22:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:14 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:01 tigera6 wrote:
So if the order they show in the post is the same as the draft order, why the HELL did herO pick Reynor first.


Do GSL still has the group nomination like before?


They did last season IIRC, they had the players on webcams and they recorded it and edited it into a vid that they played during GSL breaks


I am thinking that Maru, the holder right of first seed swaps Reynor with the one in his group if swapping is allowed too.


In this scenario who would've picked reynor in group A?


One of TY or Creator? It is also possible for herO to choose Shin/Ragnarok after the latter's inconsistencies in ZvP. Shin got demolished 4-0 by Stats during the previous season. It is also possible the swapping doesn't happen as Maru is fully satisfied with all members in his group.

Disclaimer: This claim may be true if the swapping is still allowed, otherwise just like the normal group nomination.


Re: Group B, soO told me how the picks went. herO > Reynor > soO > GuMiho. The picture of the groups accurately displays the order in which the players were chosen.


Thank you for information, Miz!
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1198 Posts
April 22 2024 15:45 GMT
#50
Funfact: Group B is the only group in which player shares a letter --> o
Probably means stuff.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
April 22 2024 17:08 GMT
#51
On April 23 2024 00:38 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2024 00:24 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 23:05 lokol4890 wrote:
On April 22 2024 22:19 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 22:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:14 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:01 tigera6 wrote:
So if the order they show in the post is the same as the draft order, why the HELL did herO pick Reynor first.


Do GSL still has the group nomination like before?


They did last season IIRC, they had the players on webcams and they recorded it and edited it into a vid that they played during GSL breaks


I am thinking that Maru, the holder right of first seed swaps Reynor with the one in his group if swapping is allowed too.


In this scenario who would've picked reynor in group A?


One of TY or Creator? It is also possible for herO to choose Shin/Ragnarok after the latter's inconsistencies in ZvP. Shin got demolished 4-0 by Stats during the previous season. It is also possible the swapping doesn't happen as Maru is fully satisfied with all members in his group.

Disclaimer: This claim may be true if the swapping is still allowed, otherwise just like the normal group nomination.


Re: Group B, soO told me how the picks went. herO > Reynor > soO > GuMiho. The picture of the groups accurately displays the order in which the players were chosen.


Wow that's shocking. I assumed that had to be some type of swap shenanigans. Picking Reynor over guys like soO, DRG, Nightmare is very bold. Hopefully it doesn't backfire on him.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13320 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-22 17:13:49
April 22 2024 17:13 GMT
#52
On April 23 2024 02:08 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2024 00:38 Mizenhauer wrote:
On April 23 2024 00:24 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 23:05 lokol4890 wrote:
On April 22 2024 22:19 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 22:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:14 swarminfestor wrote:
On April 22 2024 21:01 tigera6 wrote:
So if the order they show in the post is the same as the draft order, why the HELL did herO pick Reynor first.


Do GSL still has the group nomination like before?


They did last season IIRC, they had the players on webcams and they recorded it and edited it into a vid that they played during GSL breaks


I am thinking that Maru, the holder right of first seed swaps Reynor with the one in his group if swapping is allowed too.


In this scenario who would've picked reynor in group A?


One of TY or Creator? It is also possible for herO to choose Shin/Ragnarok after the latter's inconsistencies in ZvP. Shin got demolished 4-0 by Stats during the previous season. It is also possible the swapping doesn't happen as Maru is fully satisfied with all members in his group.

Disclaimer: This claim may be true if the swapping is still allowed, otherwise just like the normal group nomination.


Re: Group B, soO told me how the picks went. herO > Reynor > soO > GuMiho. The picture of the groups accurately displays the order in which the players were chosen.


Wow that's shocking. I assumed that had to be some type of swap shenanigans. Picking Reynor over guys like soO, DRG, Nightmare is very bold. Hopefully it doesn't backfire on him.

Easier to win bo3 PvZ than bo5
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-22 17:22:00
April 22 2024 17:19 GMT
#53
Predicting these groups is very tough for me. Group A is Maru, TY and 2 players I don't trust. Shin has a tendency for doing very well early in tournaments and falling apart later, while Creator always has a tendency to show up strong in the qualifiers and then fall apart in the tournament, while TY is a player I do trust but is just coming back from the military. Maru has a tendency to show poor performances immediately following a deep tournament run. So by this logic Group A is wide open but Maru should still be favored to take first place. I'll probably kick myself for saying it now but I'll give Shin the benefit of the doubt over the other two for taking second place.

Group B on paper SHOULD be herO and Reynor if I judge them based on their theoretical top levels, but I haven't seen much from Reynor to make me think he has been in top form in 2024. While soO and Gumiho have lower peaks than these two they also seem to have more consistent averages and on a bad day from herO or Reynor they are both more than capable of knocking them out in a best of 3 series. So this group is also wide open and it all depends on what kind of form herO and Reynor bring with them to the first round. I'll probably liquibet on them bringing their A games and taking the group.

Group C is a legit Group of Death with Cure, Dark and Stats all being very strong matches for each other and Rogue being the wildcard. Rogue has the highest theoretical peak of these 4 players IMO but he's just returning from the military so the safe bet is to assume he isn't anywhere near his top level just yet. If we assume Rogue isn't in top form, I think it's safe to consider Cure and Stats much safer bets especially with both of them just coming off Ro4 performances in Season 1.


Group D I think is the easiest of the 4 groups with Solar and Byun being the stronger 2 players here. DRG hasn't looked very strong in previous seasons, especially in ZvZ and Nightmare like Creator always seems to play his best in the qualifiers and then fall apart in the group stages. I trust Solar and Byun to advance out of this group.

TLDR:

A: Maru/Shin
B: herO/Reynor
C: Cure/Stats
D: Solar/Byun
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 22 2024 18:00 GMT
#54
Damn, no Ryung

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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12891 Posts
April 22 2024 20:43 GMT
#55
No way Maru wins another GSL.
Probably Reynor winning it all since no Serral
WriterMaru
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 22 2024 21:17 GMT
#56
On April 23 2024 05:43 Poopi wrote:
No way Maru wins another GSL.
Probably Reynor winning it all since no Serral


Maru just seems like such an overwhelming favorite against nearly everyone, and then a pretty reasonable favorite against hero/dark. Probably at least 50/50 against Reynor if not more.
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1198 Posts
April 22 2024 21:32 GMT
#57
On April 23 2024 06:17 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2024 05:43 Poopi wrote:
No way Maru wins another GSL.
Probably Reynor winning it all since no Serral


Maru just seems like such an overwhelming favorite against nearly everyone, and then a pretty reasonable favorite against hero/dark. Probably at least 50/50 against Reynor if not more.


Mostly depends who shows up. 2024 Reynor seems less than 50/50. Top-shape Reynor is like 70/30 easily
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
April 22 2024 23:11 GMT
#58
On April 23 2024 06:32 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2024 06:17 Pandain wrote:
On April 23 2024 05:43 Poopi wrote:
No way Maru wins another GSL.
Probably Reynor winning it all since no Serral


Maru just seems like such an overwhelming favorite against nearly everyone, and then a pretty reasonable favorite against hero/dark. Probably at least 50/50 against Reynor if not more.


Mostly depends who shows up. 2024 Reynor seems less than 50/50. Top-shape Reynor is like 70/30 easily


Funny considering Maru has an almost 70% series winrate against him and most of the series he lost were online with high ping in the middle of the night in KR...
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12891 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-22 23:15:02
April 22 2024 23:13 GMT
#59
On April 23 2024 06:17 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2024 05:43 Poopi wrote:
No way Maru wins another GSL.
Probably Reynor winning it all since no Serral


Maru just seems like such an overwhelming favorite against nearly everyone, and then a pretty reasonable favorite against hero/dark. Probably at least 50/50 against Reynor if not more.

Yeah it depends on form of the day but Maru is accustomed to GSL so he should be favorite
However he won so many of them I doubt he would care that much, whereas Reynor has one last shot to win it and is pretty mad that Maru got #1 on the goat list
Reynor has to defend that foreign scene is not useless while Maru has to win yet another weak GSL, so Reynor should be more motivated
WriterMaru
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1198 Posts
April 23 2024 01:20 GMT
#60
On April 23 2024 08:11 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2024 06:32 Balnazza wrote:
On April 23 2024 06:17 Pandain wrote:
On April 23 2024 05:43 Poopi wrote:
No way Maru wins another GSL.
Probably Reynor winning it all since no Serral


Maru just seems like such an overwhelming favorite against nearly everyone, and then a pretty reasonable favorite against hero/dark. Probably at least 50/50 against Reynor if not more.


Mostly depends who shows up. 2024 Reynor seems less than 50/50. Top-shape Reynor is like 70/30 easily


Funny considering Maru has an almost 70% series winrate against him and most of the series he lost were online with high ping in the middle of the night in KR...


Whenever Reynor wins a series vs. Maru, it results in him either winning the tournament or losing to the actual winner (usually Serral). But he always placed atleast Top 4.
Thus my point that Top-shape Reynor is the favorite over Maru. But top-shape Reynor showing up is an entirely different discussion. But just in case you should definetly ramp up your copium. Because as we all know, never has a foreigner won a fair series against a korean - not even when it is offline in Korea
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
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