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Problems with Protoss Physiology - Page 5
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2824 Posts
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Kimera757
Canada129 Posts
On November 06 2007 00:01 Jyvblamo wrote: If the DTs ate light from the visible spectrum, you'd expect them to be black, not invisible. They learned that psionic technique from Adun. (He taught them how to hide from the Conclave.) CuteCuddlyCat The Xel-Naga found a *promising* new race which they then made into purity of form. I think they were interested in the Protoss because they already had a purity of form. "These beings were incredibly adaptable to harsh natural conditions and climates. Their strength and speed were unparalleled amongst the other races known to the Xel’Naga." Sounds like "purity of form" to me. Pooper-Scooper Also would like to point out, that many protoss wear clothes. Why would organisms who depend on the sun wear clothes? It blocks the rays. Most of the Protoss we've seen who aren't wearing armor are wearing little in the way of clothing. Zeratul, Artanis and Selendis are all half-naked in the artwork. | ||
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brambolius
Netherlands448 Posts
On November 06 2007 06:06 pooper-scooper wrote: Also would like to point out, that many protoss wear clothes. Why would organisms who depend on the sun wear clothes? It blocks the rays. Never leave your mouth closed, it blocks the food :D | ||
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pooper-scooper
United States3108 Posts
On November 06 2007 08:06 Kimera757 wrote: Most of the Protoss we've seen who aren't wearing armor are wearing little in the way of clothing. Zeratul, Artanis and Selendis are all half-naked in the artwork. Yes the artwork. But consider the templar. The templar is absolutely covered. Even the zealot has a lot of blockage. | ||
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
On November 06 2007 04:37 Chodorkovskiy wrote: Or, even better, Blizzard could have not asnwered at all. This way, they just demonstrated horrible incompetence on the part of whoever thought up the answer. The latter's insight went just deep enough to take night-time into account. Its not like protoss absorbing light for energy is something new that the person answering the FAQ made up. Its in the Starcraft novells and I wouldnt be supriced if its mentioned elsewhere too. | ||
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Tiptup
United States133 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
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Kimera757
Canada129 Posts
On November 06 2007 12:30 pooper-scooper wrote: Yes the artwork. But consider the templar. The templar is absolutely covered. Even the zealot has a lot of blockage. He's wearing armor (much of it ceremonial in the case of the High Templar), which they could take off to eat. (Human troopers often do this.) Both have their heads exposed; they don't wear helmets like Terrans do. Alternatively, he could use a high intensity sun lamp or Pylon's psionic energy to feed himself. His suit might have lamps underneath it; the tech probably isn't beyond what the Protoss have. Frits There's just no way a warrior can get enough energy from the sun to walk and fight, I don't see that happening. Blizzard should've just left it alone. =[ They might have a real biologist on staff who told them this is possible. | ||
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purekorea
United States47 Posts
Light Absorbtion: There is more to light than just the color wavelength, isn't it possible that they absorb the other elements of light, such as infrared, gamma waves and ultraviolet they aren't earth lifeforms why should they be bound by our conditions and not theirs? About mobility: Since Protoss were originally created by the Xel'Naga couldn't the Xel'Naga spliced these photorectors into the protoss' skin and it not be an evolutionary process? Also there are jelly fish (the name escapes me) that contain chlorophyll in their bodies and it's been documented that the jellies move away from the shawdows and seek the light. So not all organisms that rely on the sun for energy are stationary. Rudimentary tribal society based upon group-hunting and warrior rule: This is probably the hardest point to justify(I am very unfamiliar with SC lore), but I think that what this refers to is their society style ie the khala, caste system and etc, not that it is what they are. Also maybe they are hunting for thing equivalent to our horses, animals that we use but not eat. Although I have nothing to justify this since just about everything about that protoss is mechancial | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On November 07 2007 03:12 purekorea wrote: Although I have nothing to justify this since just about everything about that protoss is mechancial Im pretty sure that eventhough the protoss evolved naturally the Xel-naga aided them in doing scientific breakthroughs. So when the Xel-naga found them they werent that advanced technologically eventhough they were a very advanced lifeform. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Could a humanoid like creature that is an autotroph arise? Maybe... but not with the traits the Protoss have. Although I'm sure there's different ways life could come about other than the way it has here on Earth, Blizzard hasn't put out something even slightly feasible. I doubt they'll change the skin color of Protoss to green either, lest anyone cries orcs in space again. They could just go "It's a parallel universe! The laws of physics are a bunch of lies!" but they'd be stupid to do so. My guess is they thought they'd be clever and throw out something pseudo scientific to impress people, but they neglected the part where they make it clever and feasible. | ||
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purekorea
United States47 Posts
For the last time, the rules governing chemical bonding and electronic excitation don't change just because they're Protoss. QUOTE] This is probably right, but I'd like to give my blind protoss faith answer anyways: They warp time and space surely they change the rules governing chemial bonding. I don't think "recall" , "statis field", "Hallucination" are possible for us and yet protoss have it.(might be wrong I'm no science major) | ||
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
My own opinion on the subject is that I prefer to think of the Protoss eating in little Protoss cafes where the wait staff consists of one probe with a chef's hat on. He glides from table to table displaying a little holographic menu that comes from a specialized chip within its little metal body. The Zealot telepathically communicates what he would like to eat, and then the probe sets down warp anchors to teleport the food in from the kitchen 20 feet away. So like imagine the Zealot wanted a BLT. The probe would set the swirling warp point on his plate and then an inch or so away, plant the warp anchor for a Cobb salad. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On November 07 2007 05:17 zer0das wrote: There's stopping time, moving matter from one place to another instantaneously, and creating simulacrums that fool others... and then there's changing the very nature of matter altogether. The first three I could envision an old enough civilization doing given enough time. The last one borders the impossible (sure you can smash nuclei together and get unstable nuclei that are different from the ones that are natural, but can anything be done after that? Can the way atoms want to behave be altered? I would say no. You can change how you mess with them to induce different behavior from them, but that isn't changing their properties...) .... You can somehow invision that we can build functioning teleporters, machines that stops time(Wich by the way are extremely impossible due to the laws of physics wich are much less forgiving than the laws of chemistry), but not that we are able to find a new matter wich can absorb the light of higher frequensies than the visible spectrum? You know, you are ridicilous here, since we already got the technology to absorb the energy from higher frequencies than the visible spectrum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cell | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
Despairing at last, the Xel-Naga focused their frustrated efforts on the most promising of their engineered worlds. Aiur, a massive jungle-world on the galaxy’s fringe, had borne a race of highly advanced beings. These beings were incredibly adaptable to harsh natural conditions and climates. Their strength and speed were unparalleled amongst the other races known to the Xel-Naga. The race had even developed a rudimentary tribal society based upon group-hunting and warrior rule. However, their most distinct aspect was that they communicated with each other through a very complex method of instinctive telepathy, allowing them to operate communally with striking efficiency. The Xel-Naga were pleased with the progress of their latest creation and conceded that the new race was the first of all their experiments to evolve beyond the feral constraints of baser life-forms. To signify their ascension in the galactic order, the Xel-Naga gave the new race the name of Protoss, or the First Born. The early Protoss lived in harmony and seclusion upon the world of Aiur for hundreds of generations, never knowing of the Xel-Naga who watched over them from afar. LOOK MA!!! IT'S ME !!! more on topic: Interesting read, I really wanna see blizzard's response to this. | ||
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TehKris
Norway322 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On November 07 2007 05:37 Klockan3 wrote: .... You can somehow invision that we can build functioning teleporters, machines that stops time(Wich by the way are extremely impossible due to the laws of physics wich are much less forgiving than the laws of chemistry), but not that we are able to find a new matter wich can absorb the light of higher frequensies than the visible spectrum? Our current understanding of chemistry is strongly derived from the effects of Quantum mechanics. I'm by no means an expert in quantum physics, but it get's very, very, very weird. It may be true that the old classical laws set forth by Newton and Einstein were very 'unforgiving', but quantum mechanics shows that the universe does not operate in a 'reasonable' fashion. Some things are still impossible, like transmitting classical information at speeds exceeding the speed of light, though, but I'm not well informed enough to tell anyone the absolute limits of quantum physics. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On November 07 2007 05:37 Klockan3 wrote: .... You can somehow invision that we can build functioning teleporters, machines that stops time(Wich by the way are extremely impossible due to the laws of physics wich are much less forgiving than the laws of chemistry), but not that we are able to find a new matter wich can absorb the light of higher frequensies than the visible spectrum? You know, you are ridicilous here, since we already got the technology to absorb the energy from higher frequencies than the visible spectrum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cell Uh... you think photovoltaic cells are anything that vaguely resembles life (and the ones that are organic do degrade from UV)? They have terrible effeciencies and are inorganic to boot (I'd really like to see a semiconductor life form walking around). The issue isn't whether or not it is possible, it's whether or not a lifeform could incorporate this into their body and intake enough energy to do stuff that a humanoid does. With the handicap of them not using the most effecient known process (photosynthesis) in doing so. If you think the laws of chemistry are more forgiving than physics... well, not really. Matter does whatever the hell it wants, and you just deal with it. I'd say there's far more undiscovered things in physics, which would make seemingly exotic things very possible. | ||
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