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Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
November 07 2007 17:47 GMT
#121
On November 07 2007 23:46 Tiptup wrote:
You're taking all the science out of science fiction. There's no fun left in the genre after that.


Yeah! I do not want warcraft in space!
wtf was that signature
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 07 2007 18:53 GMT
#122
On November 08 2007 01:46 Klockan3 wrote:
Btw, a much bigger wrongdoing by Blizzard are the deep space monsters. How did they evolve? What do they live on? How in hell do they mate? How can their cells survive traveling through deep space?

Btw, for you that dont know what im talking about, read the zergs story in the manual and youll see that the overmind finds spacemonsters wich are capable of traveling between stars wich he assimilated. Those arent in the game btw, maybe a new zerg capitol ship?


Eh... I find this more forgivable given that the only reason they exist is so there's a reason Zerg can fly through space. I mean, there are bacteria that can survive being space. There's really no justification as to why Protoss need to absorb light.
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
November 07 2007 19:09 GMT
#123
On November 08 2007 03:53 zer0das wrote:
Eh... I find this more forgivable given that the only reason they exist is so there's a reason Zerg can fly through space. I mean, there are bacteria that can survive being space.

Well you got a point that Blizzard didnt have to say that the protoss absorbs sunlight but the Zerg one were necessary to some degree.

However, even if there are bacterias that can survive space i doubt the ability for such organisms to create a whole race capable of reproducing in space and navigating the stars. The existance of such an entity is infinitely more unlikely than a thinking walking plant.
lovetramy
Profile Joined July 2007
Vietnam120 Posts
November 07 2007 19:23 GMT
#124
its impossible for zerg to travel through space ... becasue the overlord speed is fucking slow -_- how the hell an organism is able to travel as fast as a battlecruiser or mothership with psi and nuclear power engine lolz
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-07 19:27:29
November 07 2007 19:27 GMT
#125
On November 08 2007 04:23 lovetramy wrote:
its impossible for zerg to travel through space ... becasue the overlord speed is fucking slow -_- how the hell an organism is able to travel as fast as a battlecruiser or mothership with psi and nuclear power engine lolz


Watch the Zerg cinematics from SC, it appears that they use a worm-hole to travel interstellar distances (at least they did at the time of their invasion of Aiur).
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-07 20:50:59
November 07 2007 20:50 GMT
#126
Well, there are conditions where a space faring creature might potentially come about, although it'd be hard to imagine. The most logical explanation I can think of is there was a moon in the same solar system as the Zerg homeworld that could harbor life. Now imagine a species that could fly, but their prey could as well. As such it would be advantageous to fly higher than their prey to dive bomb into it or hide in the sun's brilliance. Their prey tends to fly higher, etc, etc, until after long enough both species can survive in a near vacuum for brief periods of time through their continued adaptation to lower pressures. And eventually with ease.

Now, how they go from a near vacuum (would they even get that far?) to an almost complete one I'm not sure, but I think there'd have to be a very gradual change from a land dwelling species, to flying, to flying higher, to vacuum. This still seems highly unlikely, but this would solve how they acquire food to some extent and come about in the first place. The whole wandering space faring species that Blizzard portrays seems inane, given the sheer distances (even with wormholes) they'd have to travel the chance of them wandering past the Zerg homeworld seems small. And then there's the whole food issue again.
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 07 2007 21:09 GMT
#127
On November 08 2007 04:27 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2007 04:23 lovetramy wrote:
its impossible for zerg to travel through space ... becasue the overlord speed is fucking slow -_- how the hell an organism is able to travel as fast as a battlecruiser or mothership with psi and nuclear power engine lolz


Watch the Zerg cinematics from SC, it appears that they use a worm-hole to travel interstellar distances (at least they did at the time of their invasion of Aiur).

You mean that same sequence where you see mutalisks using their wings to fly in space?

Enter a Uh
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 07 2007 21:14 GMT
#128
On November 08 2007 06:09 jtan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2007 04:27 Jyvblamo wrote:
On November 08 2007 04:23 lovetramy wrote:
its impossible for zerg to travel through space ... becasue the overlord speed is fucking slow -_- how the hell an organism is able to travel as fast as a battlecruiser or mothership with psi and nuclear power engine lolz


Watch the Zerg cinematics from SC, it appears that they use a worm-hole to travel interstellar distances (at least they did at the time of their invasion of Aiur).

You mean that same sequence where you see mutalisks using their wings to fly in space?



...Yes.
T_T
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 07 2007 21:23 GMT
#129
And of course there's still the problem of propulsion... maybe they evolved hydrogen scoopers and use fusion. :p
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 07 2007 21:29 GMT
#130
I love Blizzard's excuse for the Mutas' ability to fly in a vacuum by flapping their wings...

From http://www.battle.net/scc/zerg/units/mutalisk.shtml:
Frankly, the Mutalisk is an enigma. It is not known how they are capable of maneuvering through a vacuum, or even of controlled flight within an atmosphere, but they have been able to stand toe-to-toe (so to speak) against Wraith fighters along the Coreward border worlds.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
November 07 2007 21:35 GMT
#131
Blizzard is a bunch of damned noobs!!

Frankly, the Mutalisk is an enigma. It is not known how they are capable of maneuvering through a vacuum, or even of controlled flight within an atmosphere, but they have been able to stand toe-to-toe (so to speak) against Wraith fighters along the Coreward border worlds.


I've just lost brain cells!!
wtf was that signature
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 07 2007 21:38 GMT
#132
On November 08 2007 06:29 Jyvblamo wrote:
I love Blizzard's excuse for the Mutas' ability to fly in a vacuum by flapping their wings...

From http://www.battle.net/scc/zerg/units/mutalisk.shtml:
Show nested quote +
Frankly, the Mutalisk is an enigma. It is not known how they are capable of maneuvering through a vacuum, or even of controlled flight within an atmosphere, but they have been able to stand toe-to-toe (so to speak) against Wraith fighters along the Coreward border worlds.

omg...

They should hire some creative allround scientist to think up explanations that are at least close to possible.
Enter a Uh
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
November 07 2007 21:45 GMT
#133
On November 08 2007 01:46 Klockan3 wrote:
Btw, a much bigger wrongdoing by Blizzard are the deep space monsters. How did they evolve? What do they live on? How in hell do they mate? How can their cells survive traveling through deep space?

Btw, for you that dont know what im talking about, read the zergs story in the manual and youll see that the overmind finds spacemonsters wich are capable of traveling between stars wich he assimilated. Those arent in the game btw, maybe a new zerg capitol ship?


Those are the Overlords, newb.
Tiptup
Profile Joined June 2007
United States133 Posts
November 07 2007 23:23 GMT
#134
A space-faring organism is odd, but I suppose I can give Blizz some credit for not trying to describe how that works.
So certain are you.
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
November 07 2007 23:34 GMT
#135
it's kind of funny to see what people will discover with a little extra time on their hands, i used to never care about the history of a game until about a year ago when I actually started paying attention

+ Show Spoiler [Random Off topic comment] +

but, blizzard never was very good with their lore, well warcraft lore was pretty good, except for some WoW updates

I don't wanna try and change the subject but was anyone active on the blizz forums when they introduced horde paladins and got weeks and weeks of lore fanatics bashing blizzard?
Chodorkovskiy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Israel459 Posts
November 07 2007 23:58 GMT
#136
On November 08 2007 06:38 jtan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2007 06:29 Jyvblamo wrote:
I love Blizzard's excuse for the Mutas' ability to fly in a vacuum by flapping their wings...

From http://www.battle.net/scc/zerg/units/mutalisk.shtml:
Frankly, the Mutalisk is an enigma. It is not known how they are capable of maneuvering through a vacuum, or even of controlled flight within an atmosphere, but they have been able to stand toe-to-toe (so to speak) against Wraith fighters along the Coreward border worlds.

omg...

They should hire some creative allround scientist to think up explanations that are at least close to possible.


Mutalisks hold a large number of vacuoles filled with Vespene inside their bodies, allowing them to float. For high-speed flight, they rely on an organic ramjet engine. The latter cannot operate while the creature is static, so wings provide initial propulsion. In vacuum, Mutalisks switch to "turbojet" mode, with the no longer needed Vespene providing fuel.

Fuck scientists, they should hire me.
"Retards like you need to be eliminated from the gene pool." --mensrea about you.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
November 08 2007 00:22 GMT
#137
Mutalisks
Current: Does not make sense
Solution: Jetpack?
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 08 2007 00:39 GMT
#138
On November 08 2007 09:22 XCetron wrote:
Mutalisks
Current: Does not make sense
Solution: Jetpack?

<3 haha
Enter a Uh
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 08 2007 00:44 GMT
#139
On November 08 2007 08:58 Chodorkovskiy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2007 06:38 jtan wrote:
On November 08 2007 06:29 Jyvblamo wrote:
I love Blizzard's excuse for the Mutas' ability to fly in a vacuum by flapping their wings...

From http://www.battle.net/scc/zerg/units/mutalisk.shtml:
Frankly, the Mutalisk is an enigma. It is not known how they are capable of maneuvering through a vacuum, or even of controlled flight within an atmosphere, but they have been able to stand toe-to-toe (so to speak) against Wraith fighters along the Coreward border worlds.

omg...

They should hire some creative allround scientist to think up explanations that are at least close to possible.


Mutalisks hold a large number of vacuoles filled with Vespene inside their bodies, allowing them to float. For high-speed flight, they rely on an organic ramjet engine. The latter cannot operate while the creature is static, so wings provide initial propulsion. In vacuum, Mutalisks switch to "turbojet" mode, with the no longer needed Vespene providing fuel.

Fuck scientists, they should hire me.

makes about as much sense as humans flying through space by constantly farting
Enter a Uh
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
November 08 2007 01:53 GMT
#140
On November 07 2007 16:04 ScvRushGGNoRe wrote:
Post too long, didn't read.

I hate you.
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