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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-05 10:55:05
November 05 2007 10:50 GMT
#61
Not sure if anyone said this but who said they were hunting for food? Or for that matter who said they were not hunting each others tribes? Think of it like the predator, they just hunt for the sport and prestige.

PS- who the hell thinks toss have pale skin? Aren't they blue? Or was there something wrong with every computer monitor I have comein contact with for the last 10 years.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Loverman
Profile Joined September 2007
Romania266 Posts
November 05 2007 11:43 GMT
#62
I think the Xel`Naga made Plantoss out of:
[image loading]
Kimera757
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada129 Posts
November 05 2007 12:26 GMT
#63
On November 05 2007 19:50 CharlieMurphy wrote:

PS- who the hell thinks toss have pale skin? Aren't they blue? Or was there something wrong with every computer monitor I have comein contact with for the last 10 years.


Every computer monitor I've seen shows Artanis with white skin.

Loverman:
I think the Xel`Naga made Plantoss out of:


Nothing. The Protoss evolved by themselves.
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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
November 05 2007 12:33 GMT
#64
On November 05 2007 09:26 Servolisk wrote:
Also, what about Shakuras, home of the DTs? It wasn't a sunny place :O
[image loading]


Show nested quote +
The planet was dark due to the curious "darkening" of the sun, probably due to engineering by the Xel'Naga. This seems to have been an unnatural disaster for the planet - the skeletons of previously-existing lifeforms can be found scattered over the planet. (It is unclear if these skeletons are fossils.)

There are several hypotheses concerning the strange darkness of Shakuras. One involves the "filtering" of sunlight due to a nexus of powerful psionic energies; another, more realistic theory, is that the world follows a slow rotation, keeping one half of the world darkened for very long periods of time. It has also been noted that Shakuras possesses several satellites, and their orbits-- whether natural or artificial-- may keep the world shrouded in darkness. Also, the matter may lie in the location of the Xel'Naga Temple and the Dark Templar tribes by extension, high in Shakuras' northern hemisphere, resulting in midnight sun, nautical polar night and general perpetual twilight phenomena.


http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Shakuras

The Dark toss eats all the light, thats why you cant see them and why shakuras is a dark place!

Btw, dark toss eats light in the visible spectrum, while light toss eats light of higher energy, that sounds possible. Also psionic storms must be toss poop.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 05 2007 15:01 GMT
#65
On November 05 2007 21:33 Klockan3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2007 09:26 Servolisk wrote:
Also, what about Shakuras, home of the DTs? It wasn't a sunny place :O
[image loading]


The planet was dark due to the curious "darkening" of the sun, probably due to engineering by the Xel'Naga. This seems to have been an unnatural disaster for the planet - the skeletons of previously-existing lifeforms can be found scattered over the planet. (It is unclear if these skeletons are fossils.)

There are several hypotheses concerning the strange darkness of Shakuras. One involves the "filtering" of sunlight due to a nexus of powerful psionic energies; another, more realistic theory, is that the world follows a slow rotation, keeping one half of the world darkened for very long periods of time. It has also been noted that Shakuras possesses several satellites, and their orbits-- whether natural or artificial-- may keep the world shrouded in darkness. Also, the matter may lie in the location of the Xel'Naga Temple and the Dark Templar tribes by extension, high in Shakuras' northern hemisphere, resulting in midnight sun, nautical polar night and general perpetual twilight phenomena.


http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Shakuras

The Dark toss eats all the light, thats why you cant see them and why shakuras is a dark place!

Btw, dark toss eats light in the visible spectrum, while light toss eats light of higher energy, that sounds possible. Also psionic storms must be toss poop.


If the DTs ate light from the visible spectrum, you'd expect them to be black, not invisible.
lostman
Profile Joined February 2007
194 Posts
November 05 2007 16:28 GMT
#66
Looking at Protoss from an evolutionary point of view is fine but you are missing out a huge point - they are so technologically advanced that they can essentially control their own evolution (genetic modification). Its a huge possibility that they inserted the genes for UV absorbing proteins aeons ago because it was the most efficient method of energy production - no need to hunt or anything.

This is not far fetched at all because even humans have the technology to insert genes into bacteria and mammals. In 50 years we could easily create a designer baby, and that possibly includes inserting useful genes from other animals (or more likely designed genes to make proteins that have a totally new function). The difficult part would be making the genes (the DNA sequences) for the UV absorbing proteins - but protoss have technologies like warp and stasis...im sure they have surpassed the meager challenges of genetic modification.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 05 2007 16:57 GMT
#67
On November 06 2007 01:28 lostman wrote:
Looking at Protoss from an evolutionary point of view is fine but you are missing out a huge point - they are so technologically advanced that they can essentially control their own evolution (genetic modification). Its a huge possibility that they inserted the genes for UV absorbing proteins aeons ago because it was the most efficient method of energy production - no need to hunt or anything.

This is not far fetched at all because even humans have the technology to insert genes into bacteria and mammals. In 50 years we could easily create a designer baby, and that possibly includes inserting useful genes from other animals (or more likely designed genes to make proteins that have a totally new function). The difficult part would be making the genes (the DNA sequences) for the UV absorbing proteins - but protoss have technologies like warp and stasis...im sure they have surpassed the meager challenges of genetic modification.


That is a tempting theory, but it is already established that the Protoss became autotrophic before the Xel-Naga gave them super-advanced technology. When the Xel-Naga found the Protoss, the Protoss were still in a tribal society, by all accounts.

Conjectural Timeline:
- Life on Aiur originates (Possibly seeded by the Xel-Naga?)
- Life differentiates into at least two different forms; green photosynthetic 'plants' and the heterotrophic ancestors of the Protoss
- The ancestors of modern Protoss become autotrophic
- Pre-modern Protoss develop
- Xel-Naga begin guiding the development of the Protoss
- Xel-Naga leave, Aeon of Strife
- Development of 'modern' Protoss civilization
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2585 Posts
November 05 2007 17:22 GMT
#68
The Xel-Naga found a *promising* new race which they then made into purity of form. The main reason they choose the protoss were because they had a psionic bond but that doesn't mean that they didn't singificantly alter the race in other respects. The protoss would never know because the transfer from hunting for food and utilities to only hunting for food would be swift over a few generations and they weren't sufficiently advanced to keep records.

Also there bacteria on earth that can survive inside nuclear reactors. Non visible ligth is dangerous for human cells but that doesn't mean it would be dangerous for protoss cells. For all we know they have insanely effective reconstructive proteins (just like certain bacteria) that can repair bond breaks instantly.
They could also have things like triple helix DNA chains and better bonds between the important molecules.
In fact doesn't the protoss in the campaing screen for vanilla SC have triple helix DNA? (I don't have the CD so I can't check).
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-05 17:29:36
November 05 2007 17:24 GMT
#69
On November 06 2007 01:57 Jyvblamo wrote:
- Life on Aiur originates (Possibly seeded by the Xel-Naga?)

Im pretty sure that the Xel-naga seeded all of the life in the K sector, then let them evolve to see if any of them became an Uber race. And then we got the toss, so really it cant be that hard to imagine that they got some very strange evolution path due to them being the best of all the xel-naga worlds untill they found zerg.

Toss evolution:
Tossape, it eats stuff, but can still absorb energy from the sun with its skin.
Pretoss, it eats other animals, is a perfect hunter, but it ate most of the animals on the planet since they were to leet.
Protoss, since there are not many animals left their mouths disapeared and they started to live 100% on their light absorption!
PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-05 17:52:29
November 05 2007 17:48 GMT
#70
sorry, haven't read all the thread, but the more i know about the Protoss from Blizzard, the more it differs from the view i always had about them.

So screw the fan info, i'm sticking to my idea of what are protoss derived from the game i had played.

edit: with this i am not discrediting the OP, nice read indeed, i'm just discrediting Blizzard for making the SC lore less appealing (to me at least).
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
November 05 2007 17:52 GMT
#71
On November 06 2007 02:48 PePe QuiCoSE wrote:
sorry, haven't read all the thread, but the more i know about the Protoss from Blizzard, the more it differs from the view i always had about them.


Exactly! They're ruining my protoss pride.
wtf was that signature
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
November 05 2007 18:20 GMT
#72
On November 06 2007 02:48 PePe QuiCoSE wrote:
sorry, haven't read all the thread, but the more i know about the Protoss from Blizzard, the more it differs from the view i always had about them.

So screw the fan info, i'm sticking to my idea of what are protoss derived from the game i had played.

edit: with this i am not discrediting the OP, nice read indeed, i'm just discrediting Blizzard for making the SC lore less appealing (to me at least).

QFT, why couldnt they have said that the protoss eats things with their psi abilities or something? Like directly disolving and absorbing the energy from the normal food items.
Chodorkovskiy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Israel459 Posts
November 05 2007 19:37 GMT
#73
On November 06 2007 03:20 Klockan3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2007 02:48 PePe QuiCoSE wrote:
sorry, haven't read all the thread, but the more i know about the Protoss from Blizzard, the more it differs from the view i always had about them.

So screw the fan info, i'm sticking to my idea of what are protoss derived from the game i had played.

edit: with this i am not discrediting the OP, nice read indeed, i'm just discrediting Blizzard for making the SC lore less appealing (to me at least).

QFT, why couldnt they have said that the protoss eats things with their psi abilities or something? Like directly disolving and absorbing the energy from the normal food items.


Or, even better, Blizzard could have not asnwered at all. This way, they just demonstrated horrible incompetence on the part of whoever thought up the answer. The latter's insight went just deep enough to take night-time into account.
"Retards like you need to be eliminated from the gene pool." --mensrea about you.
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
November 05 2007 19:39 GMT
#74
Just a thought, Blizzard said they gain nutrition through absorbing sunlight but perhaps they are just referring to now? As some posters have started to consider, perhaps the Protoss did have mouths and eat in a way more familiar to us and later altered themselves or were altered by the XelNaga to absorb light instead.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
wXs.Havok
Profile Joined October 2006
Argentina529 Posts
November 05 2007 19:56 GMT
#75
On November 05 2007 02:09 Asta wrote:
Actually I wasn't gonna post anything because I thought to myself 'let him have his fun'.
But then you forced me to:

lol iz just a game blimey!1
Read this and you`re gay
wXs.Havok
Profile Joined October 2006
Argentina529 Posts
November 05 2007 19:57 GMT
#76
do they have to poo the light?
Read this and you`re gay
brambolius
Profile Joined January 2006
Netherlands448 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-05 20:12:35
November 05 2007 20:11 GMT
#77
X'el naga made EVERYTHING in the sc universe , thats why humans are now developing their dormant psychic abilities (ghosts). The X'el naga themselves are extradimensional snakes performing their selfish and twisted experiments on species all over the multiverse. When the zerg "eats" the humans and the protoss they will themselves become extradimensional. The X'el naga home dimension is next on the zerg list (they already have some x'el naga dna from the outbreak on Char but they didnt get all of it ).

After thats its straight on to God himself who turns out to be a drunken monkey just randomly bashing buttons on a panel for a banana or an electrical shock (it hasnt quite figured that one out yet).

I CAN'T WAIT FOR SCII :D
Blacklizard
Profile Joined May 2007
United States1194 Posts
November 05 2007 20:17 GMT
#78
Fun read.

I think with the alien nature of Protoss, the Xel'Naga intervention, and the psionic abilities of toss, there are plenty of unknowns that could allow for some odd chemistry or psionic happenings that could help explain the Blizzard answer of sun and air moisture. I didn't read all the replies, but some of this was already said I think.

1. The psionic energy is something partially drawn from crystals, etc. and it can be converted into energy for body processes.

2. They have a different mechanism for getting energy from light... works differently than plants and their green chlorophyll, etc. Again, psionics could be part of the puzzle.

3. Blizzard was "wrong" (they are just giving the Terran viewpoint) and they warp food into their bellies.

pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
November 05 2007 20:41 GMT
#79
lol of course it doesn't make sense -__-)a
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
November 05 2007 21:06 GMT
#80
Also would like to point out, that many protoss wear clothes. Why would organisms who depend on the sun wear clothes? It blocks the rays.
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