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LostUsername100
Profile Joined April 2022
96 Posts
July 29 2023 10:05 GMT
#21
Bard hallucinates a lot.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3834 Posts
July 29 2023 20:56 GMT
#22
If the pattern holds, the average IQ of Starcraft pro gamers in 2023 would be 92. Therefore, today’s Starcraft pro gamers are stupider than the general population.

Can’t wait for bots to start making posts like this, I sense a glorious ABL revival on the horizon
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 21:23:06
July 29 2023 21:13 GMT
#23
Courtesy of Bard AI:
There is no publicly available information on CicadaSC's IQ. However, based on their performance in StarCraft II, it is likely that they have a very high IQ. CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has been ranked in the top 100 players in the world. They have also won several major tournaments, including the 2016 DreamHack Open Austin and the 2017 WCS Global Finals.

IQ is a measure of intelligence, and it is generally considered to be a good predictor of success in competitive games. In StarCraft II, players need to be able to make quick decisions, think strategically, and react to changes in the game. CicadaSC has demonstrated all of these skills at a very high level, which suggests that they have a very high IQ.

Of course, IQ is not the only factor that determines success in StarCraft II or any other competitive game. Other factors such as practice, dedication, and natural talent also play a role. However, CicadaSC's IQ is likely to be a significant advantage for them, and it is one of the reasons why they have been so successful.

Congrats on the Dreamhack, WCS wins (2017 global finals no less! One of the highest prize pools!) , and likely very high IQ

For fun, you can look at some of the other drafts, which list the accomplishments as...
CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #30 in the world. They have also won several major tournaments, including the 2015 DreamHack Open Austin and the 2016 WCS America Season 2 Finals.

CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #2 in the world. He is known for their strategical prowess and their ability to outthink their opponents. In order to achieve such a high level of play, CicadaSC must have a very high IQ.

According to a study by the University of Pennsylvania, the average IQ of professional StarCraft II players is 135. This means that CicadaSC is likely to have an IQ that is at least in this range. However, it is also possible that their IQ is even higher.

CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #1 in the world.

CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has been ranked as high as #1 in the world. They have won numerous tournaments, including the 2015 WCS Global Finals.


Needless to say, Cicada is one of the best players on TL.net, and also bard AI is comically inaccurate.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26505 Posts
July 29 2023 22:02 GMT
#24
On July 30 2023 06:13 Blargh wrote:
Courtesy of Bard AI:
Show nested quote +
There is no publicly available information on CicadaSC's IQ. However, based on their performance in StarCraft II, it is likely that they have a very high IQ. CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has been ranked in the top 100 players in the world. They have also won several major tournaments, including the 2016 DreamHack Open Austin and the 2017 WCS Global Finals.

IQ is a measure of intelligence, and it is generally considered to be a good predictor of success in competitive games. In StarCraft II, players need to be able to make quick decisions, think strategically, and react to changes in the game. CicadaSC has demonstrated all of these skills at a very high level, which suggests that they have a very high IQ.

Of course, IQ is not the only factor that determines success in StarCraft II or any other competitive game. Other factors such as practice, dedication, and natural talent also play a role. However, CicadaSC's IQ is likely to be a significant advantage for them, and it is one of the reasons why they have been so successful.

Congrats on the Dreamhack, WCS wins (2017 global finals no less! One of the highest prize pools!) , and likely very high IQ

For fun, you can look at some of the other drafts, which list the accomplishments as...
Show nested quote +
CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #30 in the world. They have also won several major tournaments, including the 2015 DreamHack Open Austin and the 2016 WCS America Season 2 Finals.

Show nested quote +
CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #2 in the world. He is known for their strategical prowess and their ability to outthink their opponents. In order to achieve such a high level of play, CicadaSC must have a very high IQ.

According to a study by the University of Pennsylvania, the average IQ of professional StarCraft II players is 135. This means that CicadaSC is likely to have an IQ that is at least in this range. However, it is also possible that their IQ is even higher.

Show nested quote +
CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #1 in the world.

Show nested quote +
CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has been ranked as high as #1 in the world. They have won numerous tournaments, including the 2015 WCS Global Finals.


Needless to say, Cicada is one of the best players on TL.net, and also bard AI is comically inaccurate.

Now do me so I can show my friends before they realise!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 29 2023 22:23 GMT
#25
On July 29 2023 17:30 Durnuu wrote:
What's the average IQ of a TL forum user?


Given that we'd probably struggle to grasp negative numbers, this may be hard to answer.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
July 29 2023 22:34 GMT
#26
On July 30 2023 07:02 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2023 06:13 Blargh wrote:
Courtesy of Bard AI:
There is no publicly available information on CicadaSC's IQ. However, based on their performance in StarCraft II, it is likely that they have a very high IQ. CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has been ranked in the top 100 players in the world. They have also won several major tournaments, including the 2016 DreamHack Open Austin and the 2017 WCS Global Finals.

IQ is a measure of intelligence, and it is generally considered to be a good predictor of success in competitive games. In StarCraft II, players need to be able to make quick decisions, think strategically, and react to changes in the game. CicadaSC has demonstrated all of these skills at a very high level, which suggests that they have a very high IQ.

Of course, IQ is not the only factor that determines success in StarCraft II or any other competitive game. Other factors such as practice, dedication, and natural talent also play a role. However, CicadaSC's IQ is likely to be a significant advantage for them, and it is one of the reasons why they have been so successful.

Congrats on the Dreamhack, WCS wins (2017 global finals no less! One of the highest prize pools!) , and likely very high IQ

For fun, you can look at some of the other drafts, which list the accomplishments as...
CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #30 in the world. They have also won several major tournaments, including the 2015 DreamHack Open Austin and the 2016 WCS America Season 2 Finals.

CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #2 in the world. He is known for their strategical prowess and their ability to outthink their opponents. In order to achieve such a high level of play, CicadaSC must have a very high IQ.

According to a study by the University of Pennsylvania, the average IQ of professional StarCraft II players is 135. This means that CicadaSC is likely to have an IQ that is at least in this range. However, it is also possible that their IQ is even higher.

CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #1 in the world.

CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has been ranked as high as #1 in the world. They have won numerous tournaments, including the 2015 WCS Global Finals.


Needless to say, Cicada is one of the best players on TL.net, and also bard AI is comically inaccurate.

Now do me so I can show my friends before they realise!

I'm afraid you have no SC2 accomplishments, but...
WombaT is a well-known figure in the StarCraft community, and he is considered to be one of the most intelligent players in the world. However, his IQ has never been officially measured.

No doubt that you are still a genius.
Curufinwe Feanor
Profile Joined August 2012
Brazil91 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 22:41:39
July 29 2023 22:40 GMT
#27
On July 28 2023 21:57 MockHamill wrote:
The real RTS talent is probably some kind of fast thinking ability where you can process things very fast. My guess is that that talent only vaguely correlates to IQ.

A fast thinking 18 year old with a IQ of 105 would probably beat a professor with 130+ IQ if they both have played the same amount of SC2.


This is a useless comparison.

Reflex is inversely correlated to ageing. That has been already studied. Buut, it isnt the only variable that determines on how effectively one plays starcraft.

To analyse solely the impact of IQ, you would have to compare elements of the same age, with different IQ's. Then you would have the answer if IQ determines how well you play.

And I guess we would find that it does affect significantly, because how you play is determined by how you practice and study the game. Serral has said that, often times, he studies the game by just thinking and speculating possible situations on the game. I would very much like to see a longitudinal study like that.

Aure Entüluva
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26505 Posts
July 29 2023 22:44 GMT
#28
On July 30 2023 07:34 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2023 07:02 WombaT wrote:
On July 30 2023 06:13 Blargh wrote:
Courtesy of Bard AI:
There is no publicly available information on CicadaSC's IQ. However, based on their performance in StarCraft II, it is likely that they have a very high IQ. CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has been ranked in the top 100 players in the world. They have also won several major tournaments, including the 2016 DreamHack Open Austin and the 2017 WCS Global Finals.

IQ is a measure of intelligence, and it is generally considered to be a good predictor of success in competitive games. In StarCraft II, players need to be able to make quick decisions, think strategically, and react to changes in the game. CicadaSC has demonstrated all of these skills at a very high level, which suggests that they have a very high IQ.

Of course, IQ is not the only factor that determines success in StarCraft II or any other competitive game. Other factors such as practice, dedication, and natural talent also play a role. However, CicadaSC's IQ is likely to be a significant advantage for them, and it is one of the reasons why they have been so successful.

Congrats on the Dreamhack, WCS wins (2017 global finals no less! One of the highest prize pools!) , and likely very high IQ

For fun, you can look at some of the other drafts, which list the accomplishments as...
CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #30 in the world. They have also won several major tournaments, including the 2015 DreamHack Open Austin and the 2016 WCS America Season 2 Finals.

CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #2 in the world. He is known for their strategical prowess and their ability to outthink their opponents. In order to achieve such a high level of play, CicadaSC must have a very high IQ.

According to a study by the University of Pennsylvania, the average IQ of professional StarCraft II players is 135. This means that CicadaSC is likely to have an IQ that is at least in this range. However, it is also possible that their IQ is even higher.

CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has achieved a peak ranking of #1 in the world.

CicadaSC is a professional StarCraft II player who has been ranked as high as #1 in the world. They have won numerous tournaments, including the 2015 WCS Global Finals.


Needless to say, Cicada is one of the best players on TL.net, and also bard AI is comically inaccurate.

Now do me so I can show my friends before they realise!

I'm afraid you have no SC2 accomplishments, but...
Show nested quote +
WombaT is a well-known figure in the StarCraft community, and he is considered to be one of the most intelligent players in the world. However, his IQ has never been officially measured.

No doubt that you are still a genius.

Legitimately couldn’t stop laughing at this for far too long than was decent
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-29 23:09:18
July 29 2023 23:07 GMT
#29
On July 29 2023 09:07 Waxangel wrote:
This post is absolutely terrible but I'll keep it open for a bit because this is kinda funny

+1, I thought this was a lovely experience
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3509 Posts
July 29 2023 23:14 GMT
#30
Definitive proof that CatZ has a humungous-good brain.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1899 Posts
July 29 2023 23:56 GMT
#31
On July 30 2023 08:07 ROOTCatZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2023 09:07 Waxangel wrote:
This post is absolutely terrible but I'll keep it open for a bit because this is kinda funny

+1, I thought this was a lovely experience

glad you liked it. btw this is voltz
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
ElMakac
Profile Joined February 2021
20 Posts
July 30 2023 13:12 GMT
#32
zero
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-30 23:59:28
July 30 2023 23:56 GMT
#33
On July 30 2023 08:56 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2023 08:07 ROOTCatZ wrote:
On July 29 2023 09:07 Waxangel wrote:
This post is absolutely terrible but I'll keep it open for a bit because this is kinda funny

+1, I thought this was a lovely experience

glad you liked it. btw this is voltz


Haha yeah I'm aware, I clicked on the thread because I was interested in both the findings and where you'd get pertinent information from in the first place.

There was a certain iq test that destiny took on stream few years back, it was a culture fair test by mensa.no (they probably have a version of the test still up on the site). It was intended as a "practice test" but general consensus seemed to be that it was "good". So one of the pro players who was watching Destiny's stream shared the test in one of the Pro-Player private chats for shits and giggles, I remember at least a good 6-7 high level pro players taking it (or at least sharing their results with the group).

Obviously, this test was not administered by a psychologist, as such, it couldn't be "validated" and I'd wager the type of person who must heavily rely on hard boundaries and rules as important precursors to their reasoning, would likely quickly dismiss any findings on those grounds.

But *if* we choose to give this test any sort of credence, for the fun of it, then without going into details or specifics, from this small sample size the average was (somewhat considerably) higher than your ai's seemingly completely random guess. This is why I was curious to see if there was actually a study, as a means to compare it to this prior experiment.

Personally I found the test to be a good design on the basis that it poses simple and sensible pattern-recognition problems, whereas I've encountered other tests (or parts of tests) that are focused on problem solving / associating ability, but only after passing a "cultural" or "social" "knowledge" layer, which (imo) defeat the purpose.

I never cared to look into where the information gathered to spill the gaussian curve it gives you at the end with your results came from, so I wouldn't think of the results as anything definitive but rather just a fun anecdote/experiment; even just personally considering the test to be well structured and without caring for the results relative to the globe - different people within the group, obviously, scored differently at this specific type of task.
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
196 Posts
July 31 2023 01:05 GMT
#34
I scored 138-144 on diff IQ tests, however I had horrible work ethic and a bit of an ego, I never managed to reach a pro level in SC1 or 2.

Having a good work ethic and a bit less ego would have served me better and got me farther than some extra IQ points.
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
July 31 2023 06:58 GMT
#35
This is just a cluster of words and numbers that happen to come up frequently when people on the internet discuss the topics "Starcraft" and "IQ tests", organized in an order that they roughly tend to be found in.
vibeo gane,
SamuelGreen
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden292 Posts
July 31 2023 13:58 GMT
#36
ChatGPT and Bard isn't actually AI, they are LLMs, algorithms. They aren't actually intelligent.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
July 31 2023 14:03 GMT
#37
On July 31 2023 22:58 SamuelGreen wrote:
ChatGPT and Bard isn't actually AI, they are LLMs, algorithms. They aren't actually intelligent.


Neither are people. We're just glorified algorithms.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 31 2023 14:42 GMT
#38
Only slightly smarter than the average cephalopod.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1919 Posts
July 31 2023 15:54 GMT
#39
If you need more proof Bard is goofy and incorrect, this is it...

[image loading]
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-07-31 16:45:57
July 31 2023 16:29 GMT
#40
On August 01 2023 00:54 Mizenhauer wrote:
If you need more proof Bard is goofy and incorrect, this is it...

[image loading]


Lol can't believe we built an AI who can't even figure out your deeply repressed love of Rogue.

''Their writing about the game suggests that they are a fan of players who are innovative,creative and unpredictable'' The IA was so close too.
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