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Oliveira unable to attend ESL Summer + ESL response

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Update: ESL's Alex007 has given an official response: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/612805-oliveira-unable-to-attend-esl-summer?page=5#93
jerryyyyy
Profile Joined November 2021
8 Posts
June 13 2023 14:18 GMT
#1
Oliveira couldn't go to esl because esl didn't send the invitation letter in time, so the visa was blocked.
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2543 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-14 05:32:30
June 13 2023 14:22 GMT
#2
[never mind - the title and OP were both edited and now my silly little joke makes no sense]
The frumious Bandersnatch
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland3545 Posts
June 13 2023 14:24 GMT
#3
yes
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jerryyyyy
Profile Joined November 2021
8 Posts
June 13 2023 14:32 GMT
#4
Oliveira won't be able to go to esl
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2541 Posts
June 13 2023 14:40 GMT
#5
sad
very illegal and very uncool
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-13 14:52:16
June 13 2023 14:51 GMT
#6
Then how come Coffee can go? they send the invitation to him in time but not for Oliveira?
Evilmj
Profile Joined December 2021
China95 Posts
June 13 2023 14:59 GMT
#7
On June 13 2023 23:51 tigera6 wrote:
Then how come Coffee can go? they send the invitation to him in time but not for Oliveira?

All Chinese players GG.
Toncula
Profile Joined April 2023
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-13 15:01:11
June 13 2023 15:01 GMT
#8
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-13 15:07:22
June 13 2023 15:07 GMT
#9
ESL need to issue a PUBLIC apology for this, how can you F up something this basic but so important? And now what they gonna do about the bracket? replace Oliveira and Coffee with the next EU players?
Evilmj
Profile Joined December 2021
China95 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-13 15:24:59
June 13 2023 15:19 GMT
#10
On June 14 2023 00:07 tigera6 wrote:
ESL need to issue a PUBLIC apology for this, how can you F up something this basic but so important? And now what they gonna do about the bracket? replace Oliveira and Coffee with the next EU players?


No, no, no. ESL didn't lose the Europeans. Asians don't matter. They will not reflect on their own work, they will find any excuse to cover up their mistakes.

Guess what would have happened if it had been Clem or Reynor?
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States273 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-13 17:51:23
June 13 2023 15:45 GMT
#11
According to Hyperion (DKZ's manager and who helped Oliveria and Coffee for communication with ESL and applying visa):

ESL Asia was finished on May 21.
On May 22, Hyperion made contacted with correspond employee "A" of ESL, and requested help regarding visa and invitation letters, as he had done so before. He pointed out his concern about time issue, and if the players have to travel on June 14, the invitation letters has to be received before May 31.
On May 23, employee A told Hyperion "the invitation letters should be mailed today or tomorrow."
On May 24, when Hyperion asked for progress, A told him she was waiting for her colleague in Europe.
On May 25, when Hyperion asked for progress, A told him that she did not know that her colleague was day off yesterday. The invitation letters was mailed on that day anyway, and he was told that it was estimated to arrive before May 31.

All other required documents were prepared in the next few days.
However, it is said that the invitation letters was mailed by regular mail, not expedited or express mail.
Oliveria and Coffee had not received the invitation letters until June 4.
On June 5, Oliveria and Coffee gave their visa application to Swedish embassy/consulate successfully. But Jieshi, who planed to travel to Jönköping for open sign up, still did not received his own invitation letter and abandoned his plan.
ESL requested Oliveria and Coffee's visa application number and said they will try to contact Swedish embassy to speed up the progress, as it worked before.

On June 12, A told Hyperion that if the visa was a little bit late, they can help the players to reschedule flight.
From June 5 to 13, Hyperion contacted A several times and asked any progress between ESL and Swedish embassy, A said she had no news.

As 5pm local time of June 13, Oliveria and Coffee still did not receive any news regarding their visa. Since their flight is scheduled to take off on June 14, they have to forfeit their spot in ESL summer.

https://www.scboy.cc/?thread-500323.htm
Duh
Profile Joined June 2023
1 Post
Last Edited: 2023-06-13 16:32:17
June 13 2023 16:32 GMT
#12
FK U ESL and apologizes to Chinese players.
nanshanzhiyun
Profile Joined June 2023
2 Posts
June 13 2023 16:34 GMT
#13
I'm so angry for esl !

Someone of esl didn't send the invitation letter in time, so his visa was blocked.

I strongly urge the esl to give him an apology and take the necessary steps to remedy it !!!!!!!!

F'U'C'K esl!
luxon
Profile Joined August 2012
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-13 16:47:00
June 13 2023 16:43 GMT
#14
seems completely in line with their plan of making sc2 an EU only game. i can't think of anything they've done since their inception that hasn't been moving towards that (even if this case wasn't an intentional thing).
xiaodangao
Profile Joined August 2022
2 Posts
June 13 2023 16:48 GMT
#15
Esl must apologize to Chinese players because of dereliction!
StarcraftHistorian
Profile Joined November 2022
United States71 Posts
June 13 2023 16:59 GMT
#16
Awful news
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6222 Posts
June 13 2023 17:00 GMT
#17
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States965 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-13 17:06:46
June 13 2023 17:04 GMT
#18
This is frustrating. It's also been a longstanding issue that reach outs and flight bookings are so late that tons of money is wasted on last minute flights. In the past few years I know multiple times flights cost between $500-5k more because they are booked days before.

Frustrating because it's so avoidable. Wonder if they're just screwed on the ept points they would have gotten for the event or if they'll be given some. Points help a lot with seeding for all the other events and can help you qualify or make deeper runs to earn even more points. And the guaranteed 120 points for the regionally qualified players is a lot.
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Higgy
Profile Joined June 2023
Japan1 Post
June 13 2023 17:12 GMT
#19
It seems quite wired since chinese community assumed that esl send the mail late intentional so that Oliveira can not get a championship again. It doesn't make sense, in that case korean players would never get a chance to play any tournament out side Korea right?
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States273 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-13 17:44:54
June 13 2023 17:16 GMT
#20
On June 14 2023 02:12 Higgy wrote:
It seems quite wired since chinese community assumed that esl send the mail late intentional so that Oliveira can not get a championship again. It doesn't make sense, in that case korean players would never get a chance to play any tournament out side Korea right?


Koreans do not need a visa to go to most Europe and American countries. Chinese needs one. And without an invitation letter (must be original form with a written signature, printed or electronic version will not work), their visa application will be rejected automatically.
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