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Oliveira unable to attend ESL Summer + ESL response - Page 2

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Update: ESL's Alex007 has given an official response: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/612805-oliveira-unable-to-attend-esl-summer?page=5#93
meou2321
Profile Joined June 2017
11 Posts
June 13 2023 17:18 GMT
#21
rip
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
June 13 2023 17:19 GMT
#22
If this was because of ESL mistake, they should still join and play their games online.
Randdolphin
Profile Joined April 2023
1 Post
Last Edited: 2023-06-13 17:22:51
June 13 2023 17:22 GMT
#23
That's so sad. Esl should apologize.
They lost their server, now they've lost their players and the champion.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
June 13 2023 17:23 GMT
#24
On June 14 2023 02:00 digmouse wrote:
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?

Last year Time did not play in Valencia, but I dont think it was the visa issue, more likely because of Covid policy. And then HSC was replacing lots of players last year because of the same things and conflict with GSL schedule. The recent IEM also did not have Meomaika also because of visa issue.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
June 13 2023 17:24 GMT
#25
ESL has always been a shit show. People say having Apollo at ESL is going to do great things for the scene but I beg to differ. CS:GO scene is pretty bad as well.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2634 Posts
June 13 2023 17:27 GMT
#26
On June 14 2023 02:19 11cc wrote:
If this was because of ESL mistake, they should still join and play their games online.

This seems like the best solution here.
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3569 Posts
June 13 2023 17:46 GMT
#27
On June 14 2023 02:24 geokilla wrote:
ESL has always been a shit show. People say having Apollo at ESL is going to do great things for the scene but I beg to differ. CS:GO scene is pretty bad as well.


this, ESL has always been a mess, it s kinda sad they dont seem to learn from it and improve but I can't say I m surprised. It sucks for the players involved though
Horang2 fan
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 13 2023 17:46 GMT
#28
You would have thought there was some kind of priority to getting the World fucking champion to events.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
June 13 2023 17:54 GMT
#29
On June 14 2023 02:46 Zaros wrote:
You would have thought there was some kind of priority to getting the World fucking champion to events.

Well it's not like visa delays have been causing problems for Chinese players for literally years or anything, so there was no way to know this might be an issue. Oh, wait.
Gina
Profile Joined July 2019
241 Posts
June 13 2023 18:31 GMT
#30
Outrageous, a big public apology won't help but is necessary anyway.
Omit needles swords.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
June 13 2023 18:49 GMT
#31
This is a pretty big mistake by ESL. Can't believe they wouldn't pay for expedited shipping when sending a letter to China especially when it was sent late to start with. If ESL replaces them with EU players that will be completely disgusting. They should probably just be allowed to play online. Alternatively if they are completely against online play (even though I'm confident Reynor or Serral would be allowed to play online under similar circumstances) then the tournament format should be changed and these slots should be filled by open bracket players.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
June 13 2023 18:54 GMT
#32
That Prozess at esl seems like an absolute mess.
Tjey should have the invitation ready within hours after the regionals are done.

They could even pre sign them a couple days before, if it somehow is a longer process and just put all the unnecessary once in the trash. Then they could send out invitations the same day the regionals finish.
How is it the players (manager) responsibility to get ESL to send these Letters is insane as well.
It should be well known by now, what is needed for Chinese players to attend.
MaxPax
Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1002 Posts
June 13 2023 18:54 GMT
#33
That sucks.

Wonder who they will replace with
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4296 Posts
June 13 2023 19:06 GMT
#34
that's actually incredibly fucked up, wow..

-.-
Gina
Profile Joined July 2019
241 Posts
June 13 2023 19:12 GMT
#35
No world champion at the next event in the league, because of a technical issue. Just think of it.
Omit needles swords.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
June 13 2023 21:01 GMT
#36
On June 14 2023 03:54 dbRic1203 wrote:
That Prozess at esl seems like an absolute mess.
Tjey should have the invitation ready within hours after the regionals are done.

They could even pre sign them a couple days before, if it somehow is a longer process and just put all the unnecessary once in the trash. Then they could send out invitations the same day the regionals finish.
How is it the players (manager) responsibility to get ESL to send these Letters is insane as well.
It should be well known by now, what is needed for Chinese players to attend.


100%
This makes ESL look like a joke of an organization and shows quite a fairly high level of incompetence on their end. It's quite a snub to treat the world champion like this as well. I wonder what ESL's next move will be, at the bare minimum they should allow those who have rightfully qualified but can't make it to the event in person due to ESL's own incompetence to at the bare minimum play online.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
KappaKingPrime
Profile Joined May 2014
United States468 Posts
June 13 2023 21:46 GMT
#37
That's messed up, they should allow them to play online in this case.
BelethielQT
Profile Joined August 2022
90 Posts
June 13 2023 22:02 GMT
#38
Couldnt care less
DIVINE_PEZZ
Profile Joined July 2019
Australia6 Posts
June 13 2023 22:57 GMT
#39
European Simp League (ESL for short) doesn't care about Chinese players or the Asian region. Only care about EU.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
June 13 2023 23:37 GMT
#40
Pretty unforgiveable from ESL, they should be much more on their game about quickly helping with visas. That and or hold the Asia regionals much further in advance so there's more time to deal with visa complications.

Oliveria/Coffee should be allowed to play online, or at the very least be paid the prize money they would have gotten from attending (doesn't make up for lost potential earnings from a deeper run, but it's a start.)
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