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Oliveira unable to attend ESL Summer + ESL response - Page 4

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Update: ESL's Alex007 has given an official response: https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/612805-oliveira-unable-to-attend-esl-summer?page=5#93
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2594 Posts
June 14 2023 05:59 GMT
#61
On June 14 2023 12:17 Evilmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 12:12 digmouse wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:23 tigera6 wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:00 digmouse wrote:
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?

Last year Time did not play in Valencia, but I dont think it was the visa issue, more likely because of Covid policy. And then HSC was replacing lots of players last year because of the same things and conflict with GSL schedule. The recent IEM also did not have Meomaika also because of visa issue.

This is not the first time Chinese players (and other players) have to miss an offline event due to incompetence from the organizing side, this goes all the way back to pre-covid DH, ESL and Blizzard days as there were multiple close calls.

It seems Zombiegrub also GG.:I

ESL misspelled her name, which invalidated the ticket.

You have a source on that? I haven't been able to find anything suggesting that this is true, and Zombiegrub herself hasn't mentioned it on her Twitter account.
The frumious Bandersnatch
huckfinne1
Profile Joined June 2023
Australia3 Posts
June 14 2023 06:05 GMT
#62
what an amazing ESL!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18311 Posts
June 14 2023 06:58 GMT
#63
On June 14 2023 03:54 dbRic1203 wrote:
That Prozess at esl seems like an absolute mess.
Tjey should have the invitation ready within hours after the regionals are done.

They could even pre sign them a couple days before, if it somehow is a longer process and just put all the unnecessary once in the trash. Then they could send out invitations the same day the regionals finish.
How is it the players (manager) responsibility to get ESL to send these Letters is insane as well.
It should be well known by now, what is needed for Chinese players to attend.

They could also just hold the the regionals a week earlier so there isn't such a rush in the first place.

Travesty. Made worse by the fact that it's a recurring issue.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
June 14 2023 07:03 GMT
#64
He's just the reigning champion, no reason for ESL to have their shit together to make sure he attends. /s
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
June 14 2023 07:46 GMT
#65
I can't wait to see how ESL break their own rules to determine replacements.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Evilmj
Profile Joined December 2021
China103 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-14 08:08:14
June 14 2023 07:53 GMT
#66
On June 14 2023 14:59 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 12:17 Evilmj wrote:
On June 14 2023 12:12 digmouse wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:23 tigera6 wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:00 digmouse wrote:
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?

Last year Time did not play in Valencia, but I dont think it was the visa issue, more likely because of Covid policy. And then HSC was replacing lots of players last year because of the same things and conflict with GSL schedule. The recent IEM also did not have Meomaika also because of visa issue.

This is not the first time Chinese players (and other players) have to miss an offline event due to incompetence from the organizing side, this goes all the way back to pre-covid DH, ESL and Blizzard days as there were multiple close calls.

It seems Zombiegrub also GG.:I

ESL misspelled her name, which invalidated the ticket.

You have a source on that? I haven't been able to find anything suggesting that this is true, and Zombiegrub herself hasn't mentioned it on her Twitter account.


The message came from r/starcraft on Discord. I am not sure of the veracity of the news.

Since it was multiple people who told me the news, I'm personally inclined to believe it.
Grumkin
Profile Joined June 2023
1 Post
June 14 2023 08:04 GMT
#67
That's reasonable I think. sc2 is a deadgame, so there is no reason for them to pay attention to a world champion:-)
Linnena
Profile Joined January 2020
5 Posts
June 14 2023 08:19 GMT
#68
Sadly to hear this; I guess lots of ppl are looking forward to seeing the performance of last year's champion

What a pity! I wish ESL do need to pay more attention to international cooperation works in the future!
yuisaka
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia76 Posts
June 14 2023 08:59 GMT
#69
There have plenty of time but...Don't really care about Chinese players but its weird the champion couldn't come just because of visa...
2000
AlexZhang1012
Profile Joined June 2019
63 Posts
June 14 2023 09:24 GMT
#70
This situation was totally avoidable. ESL could have issued the invitation a couple of days earlier; they could have expedited their internal communications; they could have picked a faster mailing option. If you know Chinese players have had visa problems, at least do something, anything in advance to give them some head room, right?
Gina
Profile Joined July 2019
241 Posts
June 14 2023 09:33 GMT
#71
Actually the Asian regionals finished even a couple of days before the EU one, didn't they, so that's another couple of days we haven't counted.
Omit needles swords.
cosmo331
Profile Joined February 2023
China3 Posts
June 14 2023 09:34 GMT
#72
Guys, we should put up signs saying sth like "Where is the world champ" during the event
ZombieGrub
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States714 Posts
June 14 2023 09:54 GMT
#73
On June 14 2023 16:53 Evilmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 14:59 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On June 14 2023 12:17 Evilmj wrote:
On June 14 2023 12:12 digmouse wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:23 tigera6 wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:00 digmouse wrote:
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?

Last year Time did not play in Valencia, but I dont think it was the visa issue, more likely because of Covid policy. And then HSC was replacing lots of players last year because of the same things and conflict with GSL schedule. The recent IEM also did not have Meomaika also because of visa issue.

This is not the first time Chinese players (and other players) have to miss an offline event due to incompetence from the organizing side, this goes all the way back to pre-covid DH, ESL and Blizzard days as there were multiple close calls.

It seems Zombiegrub also GG.:I

ESL misspelled her name, which invalidated the ticket.

You have a source on that? I haven't been able to find anything suggesting that this is true, and Zombiegrub herself hasn't mentioned it on her Twitter account.


The message came from r/starcraft on Discord. I am not sure of the veracity of the news.

Since it was multiple people who told me the news, I'm personally inclined to believe it.


Had no idea rumors were circulating lol. I did tell my chat they misspelled my name so I wasn't sure of being able to choose seats etc but a single letter was fixed at check in.
Commentator"Defeat is the acceptance of my own laziness." - SlayerS_'Boxer'
cosmo331
Profile Joined February 2023
China3 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-14 10:18:07
June 14 2023 09:57 GMT
#74
This deeply embarrassing news clearly shows how disorganized and incompetent the ESL is.

The world champion and his legendary run is indisputably the biggest story in SC2 recently, and getting the champion himself to the event should obviously be the top priority of the ESL to make this tournament more popular and successful. And yet they still managed to mess this up by doing everything wrong:

1. They could make the online regionals a couple of days earlier so that there's plenty of time for everything - THEY DIDN'T
2. They could, like someone said, have the invitations prepared before the regionals and send them immediately after they know whom to invite - THEY DIDN'T
3. They could have signed the invitations and sent them in the day after the event - THEY DIDN'T
4. Even if the invitation letters are delayed, they could still make it up by using the Express Mail Service, but guess what? THEY STILL DIDN'T

Seriously ESL, are you capable of doing anything properly? Where is your 20+ yrs experience in organizing esports events? I don't understand.
yuisaka
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia76 Posts
June 14 2023 10:36 GMT
#75
On June 14 2023 18:54 ZombieGrub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 16:53 Evilmj wrote:
On June 14 2023 14:59 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On June 14 2023 12:17 Evilmj wrote:
On June 14 2023 12:12 digmouse wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:23 tigera6 wrote:
On June 14 2023 02:00 digmouse wrote:
OK so this is not even the first time this happened, I think?

Last year Time did not play in Valencia, but I dont think it was the visa issue, more likely because of Covid policy. And then HSC was replacing lots of players last year because of the same things and conflict with GSL schedule. The recent IEM also did not have Meomaika also because of visa issue.

This is not the first time Chinese players (and other players) have to miss an offline event due to incompetence from the organizing side, this goes all the way back to pre-covid DH, ESL and Blizzard days as there were multiple close calls.

It seems Zombiegrub also GG.:I

ESL misspelled her name, which invalidated the ticket.

You have a source on that? I haven't been able to find anything suggesting that this is true, and Zombiegrub herself hasn't mentioned it on her Twitter account.


The message came from r/starcraft on Discord. I am not sure of the veracity of the news.

Since it was multiple people who told me the news, I'm personally inclined to believe it.


Had no idea rumors were circulating lol. I did tell my chat they misspelled my name so I wasn't sure of being able to choose seats etc but a single letter was fixed at check in.

If many players/hosts cant attend to Jönköping there's chance ESL will do something about it, these Chinese aren't stupid they do it on purpose, everyone have some common sense even if not google isn't hard to find the answer.
2000
mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
June 14 2023 11:07 GMT
#76
Such imcompetence from ESL.
Oliveria qualifying is absolutely the most predictable outcome. It is a mindblowing negligence for whoever is in charge to mess up arranging for the most "routine" result from the Asia qualifier.
xyfan
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18311 Posts
June 14 2023 11:38 GMT
#77
On June 14 2023 18:34 cosmo331 wrote:
Guys, we should put up signs saying sth like "Where is the world champ" during the event

We should just boycot the event.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
June 14 2023 11:48 GMT
#78
Oliveira is literally half of the reason I was excited to watch this event (the other half being Scarlett). Feels like ESL need someone who is on top of arranging difficult-to-obtain visa country players specifically.
very illegal and very uncool
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3493 Posts
June 14 2023 12:04 GMT
#79
I am sure that ESL will handle this in the most professional way that leave most of us satisfied by the end of it......who I am kidding. We all know they will bump some players from the EU region most likely, I will be shocked if they bump players like herO/DRG/Ragnarok to face Serral/Clem in the Seeding Stage.
EthanCheung
Profile Joined April 2020
18 Posts
June 14 2023 12:11 GMT
#80
Hey ESL, where's our reigning world champion?
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