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GSL 2023: Significant contraction announced

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tlnetuser108
Profile Joined October 2022
83 Posts
March 01 2023 07:46 GMT
#134
On February 27 2023 05:59 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2023 02:12 NoobSkills wrote:
On February 26 2023 07:56 AcrossFromTime wrote:
Blizzard continued to support the esports scene long after it stopped producing any significant profit for them. For me I can't really blame them for finally pulling out.


Blizzard supported it by taking over a scene that was holding tournaments 24/7 with many more opportunities to win money than when the GSL dropped? Did they support it like Dota2/CSGO/LoL are? Their players are PAID decent without winning that way they can focus on what they do. Blizz dropping some of the prize pool and putting trash restrictions on the company's that host events killed a ton of tournaments.

On that note too I'm not sure that esports overall is a profit beast when it comes to any game. Even the LCS, how much money do you think their streams actually generate? It is more hype/news about the game hoping to keep more players interested in buying skins etc, but the tournament itself directly is probably always a loss.


Agreed. The Blizzard Kespa lawsuit around SC2 launch is what really killed StarCraft. Without it we probably would still have far more KR based content for both BW and SC2 because the content would be self sustaining rather than reliant on Blizzard.

Not even just for StarCraft It's so dumb to me that because a company created a game the legal system has decided that they deserve a cut from any monetized video that happens to have content from that game in it. Those decisions probably killed any chance of self sustaining eSports without developer cash support ever being a thing. It makes no sense to me because I don't believe the descendants of whoever created popular sports like basketball, football etc. are getting a cut from broadcasts.


Yep. Yet people keep blaming Life
Astari
Profile Joined May 2013
Australia1 Post
March 01 2023 12:34 GMT
#135
Time to bring back NASL
If you falter in times of trouble, how small is your strength
LuisFrost
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico130 Posts
March 02 2023 00:32 GMT
#136
If this is the end, I'm grateful for all the good times these tournaments gave us. It's a shock to me to realize how long this has been going on, I had never even considered it was going to end at some point.

I'm sure there will still be some competition in some form or another, but nothing like what we had.

What a ride it's been.
Neptuneajax
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia206 Posts
March 02 2023 02:34 GMT
#137
So many pros will retire. And the ones that don't will probably be the Marus or Heros or Darks who will just dominate everything and make for an extremely boring scene to follow. The game is officially on life support.
afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States337 Posts
March 02 2023 20:45 GMT
#138
Crowdfunding options are being discussed internally. Hopefully a more official statement can be given soon. It is also important for us to try and give something back, GSL merch, something signed by players, etc.
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
March 02 2023 20:48 GMT
#139
I would donate a small portion if crowd funding can be an option.
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
272 Posts
March 02 2023 21:31 GMT
#140
On March 03 2023 05:45 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Crowdfunding options are being discussed internally. Hopefully a more official statement can be given soon. It is also important for us to try and give something back, GSL merch, something signed by players, etc.


Thank you! I hope there can be a way for other companies or the community to support.
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1804 Posts
March 02 2023 22:10 GMT
#141
On March 03 2023 05:45 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Crowdfunding options are being discussed internally. Hopefully a more official statement can be given soon. It is also important for us to try and give something back, GSL merch, something signed by players, etc.


I hope something can come of this. The staff at afreeca were awesome to me in 2017 when I was allowed to interview GuMiho and soO before the Season 2 finals. I know I'm not the only one who would love to have a way to give back for all the years of great memories.
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4378 Posts
March 02 2023 22:26 GMT
#142
GSL merch signed by players as a crowdfunding reward sounds amazing. I'd contribute a lot of money for a jacket or hoodie signed by Maru.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
March 04 2023 22:15 GMT
#143
On March 03 2023 05:45 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Crowdfunding options are being discussed internally. Hopefully a more official statement can be given soon. It is also important for us to try and give something back, GSL merch, something signed by players, etc.

I hope something like this can happen. Fingers crossed !
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10317 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-05 03:26:22
March 05 2023 03:23 GMT
#144
On March 03 2023 05:45 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Crowdfunding options are being discussed internally. Hopefully a more official statement can be given soon. It is also important for us to try and give something back, GSL merch, something signed by players, etc.


Thank you for the update!!

Honestly I would be glad to pay $100 a month to help support running GSL and/or contribute to the prize pool!
If it means I can keep watching something close to the amount of GSL we had in 2022, I would gladly pay a lot. I really enjoyed GSL in 2022 especially with the Round Robin Ro10s.

If there are a few hundred others who would be willing to pay $20-100 a month, we could make a significant amount.
Merch or rewards would be cute and may help convince many more to contribute, but personally I would not need it.
I hope that merch would be kinds that are unique and valuable, but low cost to make and distribute. (For example, things signed or personalized by pro players).
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
tgosu
Profile Joined March 2020
4 Posts
March 05 2023 03:50 GMT
#145
There are a lot of people who would be more than happy to help crowdfund prize pools for this! ME included!
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain877 Posts
March 06 2023 17:21 GMT
#146
Same for me, crowfunding a better prize pool is a win-win situation for GSL and the Community
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Glorfindelio
Profile Joined October 2022
193 Posts
March 06 2023 17:32 GMT
#147
Mark me down for crowdfunding, would be more than happy to give back for all the great entertainment and memories GSL has provided throughout the years! Really wish more tournaments and ESL as well would consider this as a more serious option.
Samantha_Collin
Profile Joined March 2023
1 Post
March 10 2023 07:57 GMT
#148
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Ellipsesdi
Profile Joined March 2016
7 Posts
May 09 2023 15:27 GMT
#149
GSL needs to charge: Show matches 1 and 2 for free. Get rid of the horrible YouTube overlay. Charge $2 to view the winners match, the losers match, and the decider match. With credit card fees, you’ll bring in maybe $1.50 per viewer. You may lose 50 percent of your viewers (although I’m betting the drop may be less than that). The last cast was 50k viewers. You’ll bring in at least $25,000 per group. $150,000 per season. That’s your prize pool.
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
828 Posts
May 09 2023 20:04 GMT
#150
On May 10 2023 00:27 Ellipsesdi wrote:
GSL needs to charge: Show matches 1 and 2 for free. Get rid of the horrible YouTube overlay. Charge $2 to view the winners match, the losers match, and the decider match. With credit card fees, you’ll bring in maybe $1.50 per viewer. You may lose 50 percent of your viewers (although I’m betting the drop may be less than that). The last cast was 50k viewers. You’ll bring in at least $25,000 per group. $150,000 per season. That’s your prize pool.

Do you work for a rival Korean broadcasting corporation? Only explanation I can see for this suggestion.
Ellipsesdi
Profile Joined March 2016
7 Posts
May 10 2023 04:45 GMT
#151
Just charge the English cast viewers. Korean tv probably gets sufficient revenue through advertising to make it make sense as a free service. I’ve never purchased HotSix because I live in America.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6806 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-10 08:41:54
May 10 2023 08:39 GMT
#152
On May 10 2023 00:27 Ellipsesdi wrote:
GSL needs to charge: Show matches 1 and 2 for free. Get rid of the horrible YouTube overlay. Charge $2 to view the winners match, the losers match, and the decider match. With credit card fees, you’ll bring in maybe $1.50 per viewer. You may lose 50 percent of your viewers (although I’m betting the drop may be less than that). The last cast was 50k viewers. You’ll bring in at least $25,000 per group. $150,000 per season. That’s your prize pool.


This is a horrbile idea. Besides the Patreon is already going and pretty succesful at that

https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/610592-gsl-starts-patreon-to-crowdfund-prize-pool

Maybe this should be linked in the OT of every GSL related post like Previews and LR threads
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2384 Posts
May 10 2023 08:41 GMT
#153
On May 10 2023 13:45 Ellipsesdi wrote:
Just charge the English cast viewers. Korean tv probably gets sufficient revenue through advertising to make it make sense as a free service. I’ve never purchased HotSix because I live in America.

I purchased hot6 here solely because of GSL, but the colourful flavours aren't available just the boring default one =(
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