EPTBecause this is how sanctions are applied in 95% of cases.
Should esports ban Russian teams/players? - Page 6
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ZeroByte13
759 Posts
Because this is how sanctions are applied in 95% of cases. | ||
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hiroshOne
Poland425 Posts
I'm in Poland, and I'm helping those refuges as I can. I would ban everyone from Russia in everything, if that could end this madness. It's symbolic thing. And if those russian players are against this war, they would understand it too. | ||
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ZeroByte13
759 Posts
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IMSupervisor
Australia138 Posts
On March 05 2022 17:24 ZeroByte13 wrote: You don't know how sanctions can be applied to specific organizations only? Really? Because this is how sanctions are applied in 95% of cases. The sanctions obviously have a flow on effect which hurt all of the innocent people in Russia too, and the people who benefit from dealing with Russia. The Russian economy is going to crash from all of this even though the sanctions aren't against the general population they suffer anyway even though they aren't being targeted. There's really no way out of this without innocent people being impacted negatively. | ||
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Vision_
861 Posts
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Nagumo
Germany14 Posts
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
Not sure how that works with free to Play games though | ||
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Vision_
861 Posts
On March 05 2022 20:33 dbRic1203 wrote: Activision/ Blizzard is no longer selling games in russia. Not sure how that works with free to Play games though Damned and what if SC3 ? | ||
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Noa Greenini
265 Posts
On March 05 2022 06:02 aringadingding wrote: I am surprised that people doesnt understand that other people are upset that russia is invading an innocent country. And I am also surprised about the weird argument "there are other horrible things in the world, so lets not do anything now".... with that logic, noone will never make any action to any country ever. I'm not really surprised. These enablers have always been there, and they always have the argument that we need to go back in time and do things differently, as though the past decides all of the future (kind of like how Pootin thinks). I'm not against sanctioning Saudi Arabia or Israel though, I think war crimes are war crimes. | ||
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ZeroByte13
759 Posts
Because now there's a law which says I can go to jail for up to 15 years, if I say something negative about this situation on foreign forums, so... bye-bye. (this is not a joke) | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On March 05 2022 22:36 ZeroByte13 wrote: I'm removing my posts from here. Because now there's a law which says I can go to jail for up to 15 years, if I say something negative about this situation on foreign forums, so... bye-bye. :/ GL dude... | ||
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Drfilip
Sweden590 Posts
Their post that had anything at all about Russia are gone, even if they weren't explicitly negative. Better safe than jailed, as the saying goes. The information war is going strong. Both Soviet and Russia have been consistently good at that part. | ||
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Vision_
861 Posts
On March 05 2022 22:36 ZeroByte13 wrote: I'm removing my posts from here. Because now there's a law which says I can go to jail for up to 15 years, if I say something negative about this situation on foreign forums, so... bye-bye. (this is not a joke) I would be interesting to stay in jail if the russian competition in SC2 was more professionnal ;D | ||
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emperorofwild
87 Posts
On March 03 2022 14:13 luxon wrote: In light of the invasion of Ukraine, IOC (Olympics), FIFA (world cup), UEFA, figure skating, volleyball, badminton, cycling, tennis, F1 have banned Russian teams, athletes, or sponsors. What is ESL/SC2's (or e-sports more broadly) responsibility in the global scene? If the answer in this case is 'nothing', what happens when China invades Taiwan? We all know Blizzard is a stooge for the CCP, but what about for other games by other companies? Do we just let the progamers compete as if players' lives aren't in danger? I understand the economic impact of SC2/esports cannot compare to say football, but since e-sports are very international in nature, I feel like the conversation is justified. Thoughts? Update (thanks @Aesop): CS:GO has banned Russian sponsors/teams but allows individual players to compete non-affiliated. The most significant thing of esports is less natioal factors. WESG and Nation War has national representives，except these two SC2 players just represents themselve. So I support ESL do nothing about it. CHINA and TW, I think you should vote a govement that dare to admit TW is a real country first. Before this its not country, no invation, officially. As Chinese I can live without games, thats OK. all these ban RUSSIAN things showed social medias make people more extrem，west is a free speech world，but on social media people can not be neutral or even can not have their idea reserved. CHina is well known as censorship totalism，but here we know if you have a tw collegue，or bussiness partner，you do not talk about these things， we give each other rights to reserve political ideas，and make works going on well. | ||
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emperorofwild
87 Posts
On March 03 2022 14:13 luxon wrote: In light of the invasion of Ukraine, IOC (Olympics), FIFA (world cup), UEFA, figure skating, volleyball, badminton, cycling, tennis, F1 have banned Russian teams, athletes, or sponsors. What is ESL/SC2's (or e-sports more broadly) responsibility in the global scene? If the answer in this case is 'nothing', what happens when China invades Taiwan? We all know Blizzard is a stooge for the CCP, but what about for other games by other companies? Do we just let the progamers compete as if players' lives aren't in danger? I understand the economic impact of SC2/esports cannot compare to say football, but since e-sports are very international in nature, I feel like the conversation is justified. Thoughts? Update (thanks @Aesop): CS:GO has banned Russian sponsors/teams but allows individual players to compete non-affiliated. or we update this to higher edition： What your point on Russia and Ukraine？CN and tw？ will U call for the rights of LGBT/Ethnic minoritys ？ What you can do for climat change/refuges？ … TIMBA or ZIMBA or PIMBA？ if a player answered these all right，he can play. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24979 Posts
On March 05 2022 22:36 ZeroByte13 wrote: I'm removing my posts from here. Because now there's a law which says I can go to jail for up to 15 years, if I say something negative about this situation on foreign forums, so... bye-bye. (this is not a joke) Stay safe | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
Nobody could possibly be misled by western media and social media, both of whom show you exactly what they want you to see. I don't agree with this invasion, but there has been an extended conflict in eastern Ukraine for years and years and most people are wholly unaware of the details of this conflict. Banning people due to nationality? No. The fact that people are even entertaining the idea says a lot about people these days. Cancel culture is mainstream. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24979 Posts
On March 06 2022 02:40 J. Corsair wrote: I love how everyone is now a geopolitical expert and can discern exactly who the bad guy is in this fight. Everyone suddenly knows the Ukrainians are incredible because of the ghost of Ukraine, whose footage came straight from DCS. Nobody could possibly be misled by western media and social media, both of whom show you exactly what they want you to see. I don't agree with this invasion, but there has been an extended conflict in eastern Ukraine for years and years and most people are wholly unaware of the details of this conflict. Banning people due to nationality? No. The fact that people are even entertaining the idea says a lot about people these days. Cancel culture is mainstream. Do you have to be an expert in the geopolitics here? A healthy skepticism on media reportage and general mainstream narrative is important to have. On the other hand there seems a trend to discard mainstream narratives seemingly on account of their mainstream nature, and not applying a genuinely skeptical lens to the alternative narratives that take their place. It’s some weird hipster mentality, oh no I don’t trust the BBC, RT is where it’s at. I don’t trust the cast vast majority of medical wisdom, it’s this bloke’s blog is where it’s at. There are particulars that many, myself included are ignorant of in terms of the East of Ukraine. I don’t, particularly care. Are they sufficient justification for a wholesale invasion of Ukraine and all that entails? Whatever complexities in that particular scenario shift widely when being discussed within the parameters of peacetime or war. The response of Ukrainians themselves is in and of itself informative. I may not be cognisant of all the cultural and political forces within that region, the people who live there by default are, and they don’t seem particularly happy about this state of affairs, to put it lightly. | ||
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muppet70
Sweden72 Posts
Yes please, definitely! | ||
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