EPTWhat's something you miss about older SC2? - Page 6
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Highrock1
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SentimentalBear
3 Posts
But seriously: GSTL, "attitude" players like Naniwa, Life, HuK etc, and the major tension of super-all ins like 6/9 pools etc. | ||
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followZeRoX
Serbia1451 Posts
Also, player pool, mass koreans, strong teamlegues and rivalries without policltical correctness. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
I remember watching Life play in 2012, and thinking to myself "holy shit," -- I still haven't seen a Zerg who had his level of micro, timing, and decision-making. remembering a time when most players had strengths and weaknesses and their own style - like MC was an early-game killer and had great micro, but wasn't as good in the late-game, LosirA and Bomber were macro machines, Nestea just knew exactly when and how many drones he could get away with back when nothing was figured out yet, Ryung was a brilliant positional TvT player but weak in other matchups, MMA would multi-drop you to death but would float 1k minerals while doing so, Mvp for a long time would NEVER cheese even when the opponent was going blind CC first every game, Polt and Puma were TvP experts, inori and tails had some razor-sharp PvP builds that let you survive 4gate if you were perfect. nowadays, all the players are so well-rounded and even when somebody is strong in a particular matchup, it doesn't mean that they are unbeatable or their other matchups are weak. I also miss the ridiculous 2-month hot stretches, where a player would shock the world by beating everybody, then fade back into obscurity -- jjakji, Seed, Squirtle (somewhat), Sniper (even though I hated his playstyle), Genius, AcE, RorO. It's all the same players now. I miss the days when seeing a nuke/battlecruiser/carrier/broodlord was like seeing a unicorn. HuK mothership rushing Pinder on Steppes of War is still iconic. I think about some of the original WoL teams and their players a lot -- SlayerS, oGs, IM, ST, FXOpen, NSH, TSL. | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
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catplanetcatplanet
3833 Posts
It seemed like a foregone conclusion that he would be a top-tier player forever. In the end, that certainty made the scandal all the more devastating. I guess the other players I really strongly supported, Avenge and Pet, did pretty well for themselves all things considered—Avenge came to be startale's gstl ace in 2013 and went to a couple foreign tourneys, and Pet lasted longer than all his 2012 zenex brethren (and almost had kespa cup in the bag, don't forget!). And at least I got to watch my favorite player reach the top of the top, rather than suffer the unmitigated disappointment fans of B4, bbyong, and YoDa must've felt. But I'll probably always wish things could've gone differently. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
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Malinor
Germany4733 Posts
I also miss the early MLGs a lot. The format especially was mostly ridculously bad, but it guaranteed that there always were some unexpected performances. And with so many foreigners and koreans trying to rise to the top, that was quite something. I also miss - and this is the definition of nostalgia and how it makes you blend out all the bad memories - enduring the MLG streaming problems in the middle of the night, waiting endlessly for a series to start, which was then decided in 8 minutes by 2x 4gate. And finally and obviously, the 6 worker start. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On May 12 2020 18:51 Malinor wrote: I also miss Life a lot. When I saw him play, I thought to myself "this is the true successor of (BroodWar)-Jaedong". He had the same aura of ruthless brilliance in his play. Weird how the great Zerg matchfixers opposite styles. Serral is a true sucessor to Savior's defensive, tech focused Zerg gameplay with a lot of tactical moves. Life is the clear sucessor of Jaedong, with relentless muta/ling agression backed up by a very solid macro and smooth transitions. | ||
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aaDigital
6 Posts
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Vision_
874 Posts
It would be awesome.. With some friendly matchs to let players feel the new start and then with a small tournament... | ||
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Vision_
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RKC
2848 Posts
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On May 14 2020 01:14 RKC wrote: I was never quite into Life. But I just love his 2015 Blizzcon RO16 bop over Lilbow. Especially considering the mini foreigner hype leading up to the match. Plus there was some trash-talking too? The series was cheesy and funny as hell. Almost akin to Boxer bunker-rushing Yellow 3 times in a row in BW. libow ate so much shit for this series  it was not a really proud moment for the community, so much toxicity | ||
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rednusa
651 Posts
(1) 2010/11/12 GSL: pretty much games every day of the week; a full version of code A and code S; the interviews between Artosis, players and John the Translator (with Qs from GomTV forum); the freshness of the game; Artosis' gaming house tours of the Korean teams; stacked tournaments (2) 2010/11/12/13 Twitch streams: Koreans constantly streaming on Twitch; interaction (to some extent) with foreign audience; remembering MKP taking a break and being amazed by how good Maru was; introducing us (well I speak for myself here) to kpop; (3) Proleague / GSTL: watching bo1 series is a rare treat; the team mates sitting at the same bench discussing, the high fives and the ocassional BM shown towards opposing teams (e.g. Parting mimmicing Flash with the ruler); particularly proleague because its round-robin format ensured that you saw every player (A teamer at least) play at least one game every week offline; (4) Before the points system & region lock: being able to attend live events in Europe with some of the top Koreans attending; regularly seeing foreigners and koreans compete in offline events; more variety in the foreigners qualifying (for code A & S) (5) popularity of the game: having friends who played it, most of them stopped playing either at the end of WoL or early HotS (6) The very early cheeses that were difficult to transition out of, i.e. when cheeses were truly all-in, e.g. 6pool, proxy rax, gate proxy in main base (7) the maps that had a longer shelf-date on the ladder (maybe those still exist, haven't played consistently for a while now) | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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Carminedust
487 Posts
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Pentarp
227 Posts
On May 12 2020 02:31 Highrock1 wrote: Watching FruitDealer win the series in a time when zerg were utter garbage. Honestly, Zerg itself wasn't that garbage, it was not fully explored. Pros in those days did not spread much creep because they had the BW mentality on creep. Now we know how good it is. Same goes for unit compositions. I remember Fruitdealer using a mish-mosh of units - including Brood/infestor, which later went on to dominate the scene. | ||
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TheSayo182
Italy243 Posts
-fantasy pro league -personalities like nestea/mvp/mc; jaedong/flash; naniwa/stephano (this is the main reason that stopped me to follow the game i think) -the almost every weekend big tournaments with the constant fight koreans vs foreigners | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
Tankivac made the game funnier imo. | ||
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