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Reynor, Classic advance to Global Finals Ro8

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
October 26 2019 13:30 GMT
#1
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2019 WCS Global Finals

One day after Serral advanced in first place from the Global Finals group-of-death, Reynor looked to match his Circuit rival's performance. While he couldn't equal Serral's mark of double 3-0's, Reynor still ended up advancing in first place from Group C with a 3-2 victory against herO and 3-0 sweep against HeroMarine.

Reynor's match against herO proved to be the toughest, with his "wait for him to attack" approach not always working out. Though Reynor took the first point by deflecting an Immortal-sentry timing in game one, herO pivot to more mid-game focused strategies forced the series go all the way to a fifth and deciding map. There, the pressure of the moment seemed to make both players break down, with mistakes causing wild lead swings in a game full of Lurkers, Disruptors, Vipers, and even Carriers. Ultimately, Reynor kept his composure in the final few engagements of the game, earning himself the 3-2 victory.



Reynor then faced an unexpected winners match opponent in fellow Circuit player HeroMarine, who had scored the unlikeliest of upsets in his initial match against Classic. While Classic seemed like an impenetrable wall in the first two games, HeroMarine unleashed a series of Marine-Tank pushes to win in a reverse sweep.

Unfortunately for HeroMarine, that series victory (his first ever in a Global Finals) would be the highlight of his night. Reynor took him out 3-0 in the winners match, playing some of Zerg's greatest hits with both Nydus-Swarm Host and Brood Lord-Infestor. Then, in the decider match, Classic would end up avenging his earlier loss to HeroMarine, getting the 3-0 sweep he had let slip earlier to confirm his spot at BlizzCon.

The WCS Global Finals group stage will conclude with Group D on Sunday, Oct 27 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), with Rogue, Elazer, Neeb, and Trap contending for the final two quarterfinal spots. The WCS Global Finals will conclude on November 1st from BlizzCon.
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djack0666
Profile Joined March 2011
Belarus219 Posts
October 26 2019 13:46 GMT
#2
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...
"... of wolf and man!"
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
October 26 2019 13:53 GMT
#3
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
October 26 2019 14:06 GMT
#4
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
tigon_ridge
Profile Joined March 2019
482 Posts
October 26 2019 14:19 GMT
#5
HerO threw that last game to Reynor pretty hard. Reynor didn't do as well against herO as I hoped, either.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
October 26 2019 14:40 GMT
#6
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
October 26 2019 15:42 GMT
#7
Did we know if that was herO last tournament in the end?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
parksonsc
Profile Joined May 2019
175 Posts
October 26 2019 16:34 GMT
#8
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
October 26 2019 16:37 GMT
#9
On October 27 2019 01:34 parksonsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.


Apparently, it's either Reynor or Dark.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
October 26 2019 16:49 GMT
#10
On October 27 2019 00:42 Nakajin wrote:
Did we know if that was herO last tournament in the end?


Last tournament, I don't know, but at least last Global Finals if I get it right.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 17:43:11
October 26 2019 17:43 GMT
#11
does anyone know how bracket will drawn? I know first place fights second place but is it otherwise random?
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
October 26 2019 18:10 GMT
#12
On October 27 2019 02:43 Anc13nt wrote:
does anyone know how bracket will drawn? I know first place fights second place but is it otherwise random?


Dark and Serral can't be on the same side of the bracket. No one can play a player from his group during ro16.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
October 26 2019 18:20 GMT
#13
On October 27 2019 03:10 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2019 02:43 Anc13nt wrote:
does anyone know how bracket will drawn? I know first place fights second place but is it otherwise random?


Dark and Serral can't be on the same side of the bracket. No one can play a player from his group during ro16.


Can round of 16 player be on the same side of the bracket?
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States885 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 20:11:06
October 26 2019 20:10 GMT
#14
Love big Gabe and his attitude. He showed some really great games in his first series against Classic. Also, if anyone is looking for a hilariously crazy game that hasn't seen them I'd heartily recommend herO vs Reynor game 5. I feel like the entire group's result hinged on that game too. If herO took that one map (he was extremely far ahead at one point), there's a really good chance he'd have gone 2-0 in the group instead of 0-2.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Howard_Kao
Profile Joined September 2018
China261 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 20:17:02
October 26 2019 20:14 GMT
#15
On October 27 2019 01:49 Serimek wrote:
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On October 27 2019 00:42 Nakajin wrote:
Did we know if that was herO last tournament in the end?


Last tournament, I don't know, but at least last Global Finals if I get it right.

I guess it's hia last big tournament out of korea, he'll be like classic this year next year, and probably have no chance to attend next blizzcon because his military call tends to be quite near(koreans need to go to military service before they are 28, so he'll be in the military before september next year)
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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States741 Posts
October 26 2019 20:29 GMT
#16
If HerO actually went straight into Phoenix production instead of Carriers, he would have taken game 5. The hydra count was still very low, and could have been overwhelmed with phoenixes.
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 20:47:16
October 26 2019 20:43 GMT
#17
On October 27 2019 01:34 parksonsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.

Serral can't draw Maru.

It doesn't even matter much, every player has to be beaten to win. Based on group stage Serral would be very favoured vs Maru anyway.

Reynor also looked good vs HeroMarine.

Honestly Maru is one of the weaker Ro8 players and has not done anything noteworthy for quite a while. He gets overhyped whenever he wins a game these days.

He beat Ragnarok though, gosu
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
October 26 2019 21:27 GMT
#18
5 Zergs in the Ro8 for Blizzcon. I wonder how the crowd is gonna react.

Blizzcon is gonna be interesting for a variety of reasons this year.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 21:29:50
October 26 2019 21:29 GMT
#19
On October 27 2019 05:43 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2019 01:34 parksonsc wrote:
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.

Serral can't draw Maru.

It doesn't even matter much, every player has to be beaten to win. Based on group stage Serral would be very favoured vs Maru anyway.

Reynor also looked good vs HeroMarine.

Honestly Maru is one of the weaker Ro8 players and has not done anything noteworthy for quite a while. He gets overhyped whenever he wins a game these days.

He beat Ragnarok though, gosu


4 time consecutive GSL Code S champion, overrated.

Right.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 26 2019 21:38 GMT
#20
On October 27 2019 05:43 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2019 01:34 parksonsc wrote:
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.

Serral can't draw Maru.

It doesn't even matter much, every player has to be beaten to win. Based on group stage Serral would be very favoured vs Maru anyway.

Reynor also looked good vs HeroMarine.

Honestly Maru is one of the weaker Ro8 players and has not done anything noteworthy for quite a while. He gets overhyped whenever he wins a game these days.

He beat Ragnarok though, gosu


Lol. He is top3 for sure from the players who advanced so far.
BTW. he beat Rogue and Dark in a bo1 just recently
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
October 26 2019 22:15 GMT
#21
On October 27 2019 05:43 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2019 01:34 parksonsc wrote:
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.

Serral can't draw Maru.

It doesn't even matter much, every player has to be beaten to win. Based on group stage Serral would be very favoured vs Maru anyway.

Reynor also looked good vs HeroMarine.

Honestly Maru is one of the weaker Ro8 players and has not done anything noteworthy for quite a while. He gets overhyped whenever he wins a game these days.

He beat Ragnarok though, gosu

On this patch you have to be a god to beat Ragnarok as Terran though
WriterMaru
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 22:17:04
October 26 2019 22:16 GMT
#22
On October 27 2019 07:15 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2019 05:43 Dave4 wrote:
On October 27 2019 01:34 parksonsc wrote:
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.

Serral can't draw Maru.

It doesn't even matter much, every player has to be beaten to win. Based on group stage Serral would be very favoured vs Maru anyway.

Reynor also looked good vs HeroMarine.

Honestly Maru is one of the weaker Ro8 players and has not done anything noteworthy for quite a while. He gets overhyped whenever he wins a game these days.

He beat Ragnarok though, gosu

On this patch you have to be a god to beat Ragnarok as Terran though


I don't hear any falsehoods spoken here.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
col_jung
Profile Joined October 2017
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 22:20:22
October 26 2019 22:18 GMT
#23
Sad for Big Gabe. His day literally went the same flavour as TIME's: awesome upset start followed by a 0-3 by the same Korean. Are we seeing a trend here? Are these bright foreigners falling under nerves, pressure or fatigue at the end of the day?

Hoping Maru, Classic, Trap or Neeb makes it to the finals. Preferably Maru. Crikey not another ZvZ please.
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands657 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 22:38:27
October 26 2019 22:36 GMT
#24
On October 27 2019 06:29 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2019 05:43 Dave4 wrote:
On October 27 2019 01:34 parksonsc wrote:
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.

Serral can't draw Maru.

It doesn't even matter much, every player has to be beaten to win. Based on group stage Serral would be very favoured vs Maru anyway.

Reynor also looked good vs HeroMarine.

Honestly Maru is one of the weaker Ro8 players and has not done anything noteworthy for quite a while. He gets overhyped whenever he wins a game these days.

He beat Ragnarok though, gosu


4 time consecutive GSL Code S champion, overrated.

Right.


It's the single most impressive streak in Starcraft we've ever seen, but that doesn't mean he's forever favoured to win every tournament he enters. However, having had one of those extremely successful streaks will always bias people to believe he could have that magical form back, turn it to 11 and beat everyone, because we've seen him do it countless times before, even when he was recently outplayed by Trap & Dark. Recent form is extremely important. Mvp also won an incredible 4 GSL's, but I wouldn't expect him to make it out of a Ro32 group now if he was dropped in one.

That said, I don't think Maru's one of the weaker Ro8 players. Serral/Dark are scary, but I'd rate him than the other 3 currently in there.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
October 26 2019 22:42 GMT
#25
On October 27 2019 07:36 Neemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2019 06:29 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 27 2019 05:43 Dave4 wrote:
On October 27 2019 01:34 parksonsc wrote:
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.

Serral can't draw Maru.

It doesn't even matter much, every player has to be beaten to win. Based on group stage Serral would be very favoured vs Maru anyway.

Reynor also looked good vs HeroMarine.

Honestly Maru is one of the weaker Ro8 players and has not done anything noteworthy for quite a while. He gets overhyped whenever he wins a game these days.

He beat Ragnarok though, gosu


4 time consecutive GSL Code S champion, overrated.

Right.


It's the single most impressive streak in Starcraft we've ever seen, but that doesn't mean he's forever favoured to win every tournament he enters. However, having had one of those extremely successful streaks will always bias people to believe he could have that magical form back, turn it to 11 and beat everyone, because we've seen him do it countless times before, even when he was recently outplayed by Trap & Dark. Recent form is extremely important. Mvp also won an incredible 4 GSL's, but I wouldn't expect him to make it out of a Ro32 group now if he was dropped in one.

That said, I don't think Maru's one of the weaker Ro8 players. Serral/Dark are scary, but I'd rate him than the other 3 currently in there.

Maru is obviously the best player at BlizzCon, but the meta/balance isn’t exactly kind to him right now .
If he wins that would be such an epic upset though.
WriterMaru
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
October 26 2019 23:38 GMT
#26
On October 27 2019 07:42 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2019 07:36 Neemi wrote:
On October 27 2019 06:29 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 27 2019 05:43 Dave4 wrote:
On October 27 2019 01:34 parksonsc wrote:
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.

Serral can't draw Maru.

It doesn't even matter much, every player has to be beaten to win. Based on group stage Serral would be very favoured vs Maru anyway.

Reynor also looked good vs HeroMarine.

Honestly Maru is one of the weaker Ro8 players and has not done anything noteworthy for quite a while. He gets overhyped whenever he wins a game these days.

He beat Ragnarok though, gosu


4 time consecutive GSL Code S champion, overrated.

Right.


It's the single most impressive streak in Starcraft we've ever seen, but that doesn't mean he's forever favoured to win every tournament he enters. However, having had one of those extremely successful streaks will always bias people to believe he could have that magical form back, turn it to 11 and beat everyone, because we've seen him do it countless times before, even when he was recently outplayed by Trap & Dark. Recent form is extremely important. Mvp also won an incredible 4 GSL's, but I wouldn't expect him to make it out of a Ro32 group now if he was dropped in one.

That said, I don't think Maru's one of the weaker Ro8 players. Serral/Dark are scary, but I'd rate him than the other 3 currently in there.

Maru is obviously the best player at BlizzCon, but the meta/balance isn’t exactly kind to him right now .
If he wins that would be such an epic upset though.


Maru has been the second best player in the world since the start of Starcraft but he couldn't always show it because he lost.

The best player in the world is and obviously has always been Scarlett.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-27 02:30:46
October 27 2019 00:32 GMT
#27
Was actually hoping for the exact opposite of this result. Heartbreaking for herO.

ggs tho. Best WCS playoffs of all time?

Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
October 27 2019 01:04 GMT
#28
On October 27 2019 08:38 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2019 07:42 Poopi wrote:
On October 27 2019 07:36 Neemi wrote:
On October 27 2019 06:29 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 27 2019 05:43 Dave4 wrote:
On October 27 2019 01:34 parksonsc wrote:
On October 26 2019 23:40 Xain0n wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:53 ParksonVN wrote:
On October 26 2019 22:46 djack0666 wrote:
Sad for HeroMarine...
Reynor should have let him go first, 'cause he'd beat Classic anyways...


Reynor will draw Maru next round and die anyway


Don't be so happy, Maru can easily draw Dark.


I bet EU Zergs' fanboys are hoping Maru to draw Dark or Rogue so that Serral and Reynor will have their biggest threat eliminated.

Serral can't draw Maru.

It doesn't even matter much, every player has to be beaten to win. Based on group stage Serral would be very favoured vs Maru anyway.

Reynor also looked good vs HeroMarine.

Honestly Maru is one of the weaker Ro8 players and has not done anything noteworthy for quite a while. He gets overhyped whenever he wins a game these days.

He beat Ragnarok though, gosu


4 time consecutive GSL Code S champion, overrated.

Right.


It's the single most impressive streak in Starcraft we've ever seen, but that doesn't mean he's forever favoured to win every tournament he enters. However, having had one of those extremely successful streaks will always bias people to believe he could have that magical form back, turn it to 11 and beat everyone, because we've seen him do it countless times before, even when he was recently outplayed by Trap & Dark. Recent form is extremely important. Mvp also won an incredible 4 GSL's, but I wouldn't expect him to make it out of a Ro32 group now if he was dropped in one.

That said, I don't think Maru's one of the weaker Ro8 players. Serral/Dark are scary, but I'd rate him than the other 3 currently in there.

Maru is obviously the best player at BlizzCon, but the meta/balance isn’t exactly kind to him right now .
If he wins that would be such an epic upset though.


Maru has been the second best player in the world since the start of Starcraft but he couldn't always show it because he lost.

The best player in the world is and obviously has always been Scarlett.


Are you sure you are feeling ok, guys?
Maru "obviously" being the best player at BlizzCon, second best player since forever(Scarlett the best, ehm...).
You should not write on TL everything you dream, you know?
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-27 18:06:45
October 27 2019 18:02 GMT
#29
Narratives are all we have left of it. These (end) days of SC2.

Soo show how ZvZ is played and two top Korean Zergs cannot contain Maru, and Reynor or Trap just take it all.

*sniff* Bad narratives!

As Certified Serral-fanboi my optimal narrative would be PvP Blizzcon Finals, both Maru and Serral being kicked out at Ro4.

Why? it just feels the best avenue for everything and for the continuity of the game, during this sad, lonely post-dropout TIME. I'm sure there would be much more better foreigner parity next year, and these humble hopes would get higher if Korean Protoss just sweep some zergs out there...

Worst possible scenario for the narrative would be that Trap goes to Final and beat Maru, or conversely Reynor suffocate Classic. For everyone, also for rather idle balance-team, it would be optimal if Protoss just sweep it all.

Peace, tranquillity, understanding, Zen, and all compassing interracial friendship would descent onto a map among us all therewith.

The reality will be dramatically different from that, *tho. Urgh.

Added: * 'tho'
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