Reynor defeats Serral 4-2 to win WCS Summer 2019 - Page 4

deacon.frost

Czech Republic12129 Posts

July 16 2019 15:26 GMT

#61

On July 16 2019 23:51 showstealer1829 wrote:

Zergs don't need to overrule Europe for Toss to be wiped from the game. The Blizzard balance team are managing that just fine on their own

And how do you propose to fix Korea then? Where Protoss is fine... hmm, I wonder.

Starcloud

138 Posts

July 17 2019 00:27 GMT

#62

On July 16 2019 06:46 deacon.frost wrote:

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Why would he give up though? He had bigger army and some remnants of economy. It was enough to do a 1.5 of a push. This is the classic issue of a person who harasses but doesn't kill. If you do it when there's no bank - that's great. if your enemy has a bank you risk he fills the missing workers by units and at that point you're facing an army that's bigger than yours. Your only way to win then is to defend perfectly. I'm quite surprised that so many people were surprised, this is IMO very common for Protoss players in PvT who play defensively. When they go - fuck this, f2, victory awaits. It's similarish to "oh, you just killed my 2 bases and lost an army for that, how about I destroy you instead of rebuilding my bases?"

God....I think im going to agree Deacon on something.....

But yeah, I didnt understand the "Wow, he decides to attack !!11"- commentary at all. Even few minutes before that I said to myself, that if Reynor decides attack now he is prolly going to win it. He was already up in army supply and his army also looked more scary and bigger than Serrals. In addition when Serral decided to harass, his army at home was even smaller than that. Serral should have made 10 spines and added that supply to his army as soon as he realized that Reynor isnt defending his harass at all. There wasnt any other logical decision than to attack in Reynors case; His eco was pretty much destroyed, he managed to make more army from lost drones.

Otherwise it was a nice tournament. Serral looked bit "tired" and even bored, which was bit concerning. He seems to get more frustrated easily and the GG against Showtime actually looked more like "Well Im gonna beat you anyways"-type of call, which definetly isnt good. The whole year has been bit of that same too. It seems that the last hunger to win has been absent from his play, and that affects his whole gameplay. The only time he looked as sharp as last year was the WCS Spring, where the payback for Raynor- theme seemed to bring back the Old Night King, we all have been used to seeing. It almost seems that he needs some extra motivation to bring the best out of him. Dont get me wrong, his play is still very, very good, but it seems to be missing a bit. And a bit can be a huge factor when facing the best of the best.

Like others here said, Reynors advantage over others is mostly the fact that he isnt afraid to go toe to toe vs Serral and the little race advantage that he is zerg which gives him bit more surprise advantages compared to other races. Serral cant just go on autopilot-mode against him anymore which in addition tends to make even his game more erratic. Have to hope Serral gets his mojo back in the end of the year, where he confronts the Koreans again. Hopefully they can bring the motivation up to his gold standards again.

striderx2048

6 Posts

July 17 2019 02:43 GMT

#63

On July 16 2019 04:19 Xain0n wrote:

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Reynor is not one unreachable juggernaut the way Serral is, he plays minor tournaments and he loses way more often; I would say Reynor is a primus inter pares, his WCS results are the best if we exclude Serral.

So Reynor is Eli Manning when he faces Serral (Tom Brady) in the Super Bowl.

Charoisaur

Germany16017 Posts

July 17 2019 07:42 GMT

#64

On July 17 2019 09:27 Starcloud wrote:

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On July 16 2019 06:46 deacon.frost wrote:

On July 16 2019 05:51 Fran_ wrote:

On July 16 2019 04:12 Blazinghand wrote:

On July 16 2019 02:07 Fran_ wrote:

On July 15 2019 17:41 HsDLTitich wrote:
Still thinking about the F2 A-move yolo moment in game 4

I still don't understand what went through his mind: "I just lost my hive and third, time to kill him". Forza Italia! :D

Well, at that point, Reynor knew there was no way he could win a macro game any more, because of the various moderate-loss engagements that would happen. Basically, imagine that Reynor and Serrel continue to skirmish in this scenario. Both players lose 40 food of army, back off, and remax. Serrel can remax on good units, hive tech units, etc. Reynor is forced to re-max on whatever units he still has buildings for, while also spending resources to tech back up to Hive if he wants to re-max on good units. There's no route to victory for Reynor there.

Reynor's only chance is a single decisive engagement that he wins by a large amount, fought at Serrel's base, where he can immediately follow it up by taking out multiple hatches and cutting off reinforcements. At this moment, both are at 200 food - Reynor actually has about 30 more army supply since he lost 30 drones and rebuilt them as roaches or something - and this is the only time for the rest of the game that Reynor will be on even footing with Serrel, so he tried to force a decisive engagement, succeeded, knocked out Serrels' hatches and such, and won the game.

Totally. I'm admiring the mental fortitude of being in that situation and going for it, instead of giving up on that game (as it happened to Serral vs Showtime for example).

I think it was a great decision from him to not remake drones and just fill up the supply with army units but yeah, the decision to attack at the end was the only logical decision in his position.