EPTReynor defeats Serral 4-2 to win WCS Summer 2019 - Page 2
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DSK
England1110 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7446 Posts
To the games: Serral had a bit of an IdrA GG timing that one game. He does that from time to time, but mostly when it's the first game of a series and he doesn't want to fight a lenghty game from a losing position. Game 4 was crazy, definitely have to rewatch this. Felt like Serral wasn't using his Vipers and Lurkers correctly. Serral eating more biles in this series than in the whole 2018 is a bit strange too. Seemed a bit tired while Reynor was full in the flow. Really well played by Reynor, congratz on making Blizzcon and winning this clutch series! | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2467 Posts
Whoever do not bother to play in code s type of tournament for whatever reason, must be excluded from this placing unless all Koreans have chance to play at foreign scene tournament. Serral benefited much by not engaging with a tone of Koreans in the long-span weeks of ro16-ro32. During this span of weeks, his opponents may study to overthrow him out of brackets since they knew the brackets at least a week before just like what happenned to Innovation recently or Maru in the last season of Code S. When many of Sc2 fans criticize Rogue heavily since he kept losing after he won IEM & Blizzcon, there was a question mark whether he was worth of been placed as one of the best player all the time. The only the title that he miss is Code S. Let say, he won Code S but suddenly he start crumbling again. He looked unbeatable in some instance of time, but looked unimpressed in some other time. Do he still count as the best player of all-the time? Why the similar treatment not imposed to Serral? Serral didn't win the IEM, but Rogue did afterwards. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On July 15 2019 19:08 swarminfestor wrote: I think the suggestion to include Serral in Top 10/20 for the best player all the time is still questionable. Whoever do not bother to play in code s type of tournament for whatever reason, must be excluded from this placing unless all Koreans have chance to play at foreign scene tournament. Serral benefited much by not engaging with a tone of Koreans in the long-span weeks of ro16-ro32. During this span of weeks, his opponents may study to overthrow him out of brackets since they knew the brackets at least a week before just like what happenned to Innovation recently or Maru in the last season of Code S. When many of Sc2 fans criticize Rogue heavily since he kept losing after he won IEM & Blizzcon, there was a question mark whether he was worth of been placed as one of the best player all the time. The only the title that he miss is Code S. Let say, he won Code S but suddenly he start crumbling again. He looked unbeatable in some instance of time, but looked unimpressed in some other time. Do he still count as the best player of all-the time? Why the similar treatment not imposed to Serral? Serral didn't win the IEM, but Rogue did afterwards. Serral is way more consistent than Rogue, he translated from winning every tournament to losing finals(which itself is a good result, many great players have more silvers than titles) while hasn't reached another one yet and recently entered a severe slump(advancing to ro16 in Code S probably means he is back, tho). Everyone is already trying to study Serral in order to beat him, there is no risk he gets unnoticed; thus said, I think most of us want to see him play in Code S and we can just hope he decides to try. However, excluding Serral from a GOAT list because he didn't play GSL seems arbitrary, he plays WCS Circuit, he is not korean after all; also, not playing a tournament is surely not worse than repeatedly losing relatively early in said tournament(like Rogue did). | ||
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Parser
Italy88 Posts
On July 15 2019 19:08 swarminfestor wrote: I think the suggestion to include Serral in Top 10/20 for the best player all the time is still questionable. Whoever do not bother to play in code s type of tournament for whatever reason, must be excluded from this placing unless all Koreans have chance to play at foreign scene tournament. Serral benefited much by not engaging with a tone of Koreans in the long-span weeks of ro16-ro32. During this span of weeks, his opponents may study to overthrow him out of brackets since they knew the brackets at least a week before just like what happenned to Innovation recently or Maru in the last season of Code S. When many of Sc2 fans criticize Rogue heavily since he kept losing after he won IEM & Blizzcon, there was a question mark whether he was worth of been placed as one of the best player all the time. The only the title that he miss is Code S. Let say, he won Code S but suddenly he start crumbling again. He looked unbeatable in some instance of time, but looked unimpressed in some other time. Do he still count as the best player of all-the time? Why the similar treatment not imposed to Serral? Serral didn't win the IEM, but Rogue did afterwards. I don't think this reasoning has any sense. Maybe it could have before GSL vs the World 2018. After that Serral has been in the radar of every top progamer. If any of them, especially the Koreans, that have historically been extremely good at studying their opponent, has not studied its gameplay (and to be clear i do not think that anyone of the blizzcon 2018 finalists or IEM 2019 and WESG 2019 participant has not studied Serral) that's their fault. The fact is that Serral mantains an insane winrate against top koreans from gls vs the world 2018. Furthermore, Koreans have always been very proud of their supremacy, so it is almost sure that they actively prepare to take him down. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7446 Posts
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Uolokio
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DSh1
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Anc13nt
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Azhrak
Finland1198 Posts
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hexhaven
Finland966 Posts
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The Taxman
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Elentos
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On July 15 2019 20:06 Harris1st wrote: And now Dark will study the shit out of Reynors play to finally beat Serral xD Step 1: don't get glial reconstitution | ||
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fededevi
Italy45 Posts
Step 2: YOLO F2 + A Move | ||
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aringadingding
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Elentos
55594 Posts
Step 3: If you started Glial Reconstitution by mistake, make sure your opponent kills it. | ||
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Kitai
United States886 Posts
Serena, then Federer Grats to Reynor though! He's a beast, and I hope he is able to find some consistency against Korean competition. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On July 16 2019 00:46 Musicus wrote: King Artur almost had Reynor too, that would've probably meant Heromarine in the grand finals. The skill level at the top seems extremely close, I don't think Reynor and Serral are way above the rest. Well, Reynor certainly isn't. | ||
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