EPTOther than that Maru seemed like he was tired/sleepy, wonder when he got to Katowice and how many days he had to switch his sleep schedule to different timezone. That and he seems like he isn't enjoying travel or weekend tourneys.
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NotSoHappy
445 Posts
Other than that Maru seemed like he was tired/sleepy, wonder when he got to Katowice and how many days he had to switch his sleep schedule to different timezone. That and he seems like he isn't enjoying travel or weekend tourneys. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 01 2019 19:25 Poopi wrote: I don't think we can know for sure Serral didn't reach his best level at WESG, precisely because he went fucking untested in ZvT (minus foreign kids) after that. Plus the raven nerf. Maru didn't go downhill after WESG, he kept on winning GSLs. I don't think we'll see that ever again as long as there as 8-10 top players still in the KR scene Well, Serral was still dropping series at the time. And I said Maru went downhill relatively to international tournaments only, it has nothing to do with Code S as he still had to play his first final when he won WESG iirc! I don't think Serral not going to Korea is a matter of money even if an appropriate incentive makes everything easier; if he went to play Code S last year he wouldn't have won all the WCS in one year. He probably is more comfortable playing and preparing at home unless he feels he has to improve his play significantly like he did in 2017 when he actually went to Korea. I don't think we are belittling Maru's achievements in 2018 but trying to dissipate the hype there is around him as the CURRENT best player in the world in the wake of his Katowice's elimination. | ||
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SpaWnvERtiGO
110 Posts
On March 01 2019 18:39 alpenrahm wrote: Btw, how come Taeja isn´t playing at IEM? I was just as shocked, this was based on his performance vs Serral. I couldnt believe someone could push Serral to a game 5, ( when he wasnt dropping maps really at all..) didnt qualify for IEM OR GSL!!(?) That's when I understood he wasn't actually in shape yet, it's just that he had very near Maru-Level army control and superior TvZ, still even after his service... | ||
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SpaWnvERtiGO
110 Posts
On March 01 2019 19:52 Xain0n wrote: Well, Serral was still dropping series at the time. And I said Maru went downhill relatively to international tournaments only, it has nothing to do with Code S as he still had to play his first final when he won WESG iirc! I don't think Serral not going to Korea is a matter of money even if an appropriate incentive makes everything easier; if he went to play Code S last year he wouldn't have won all the WCS in one year. He probably is more comfortable playing and preparing at home unless he feels he has to improve his play significantly like he did in 2017 when he actually went to Korea. I don't think we are belittling Maru's achievements in 2018 but trying to dissipate the hype there is around him as the CURRENT best player in the world in the wake of his Katowice's elimination. As far as I'm concerned, the rank of best player gets reset every tourney....Like Neeb gets NO LOVE these days.... | ||
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Rodya
546 Posts
On March 01 2019 18:49 Poopi wrote: The problem with Serral streak is that it was mostly against foreign competition, and as we have seen foreigners still get crushed when there are as many koreans as them in the tournament (blizzcon, and IEM -> reynor prodigy couldn't even take out Creator who himself got trashed in the brutal groupstages...). The other obvious problem with Serral, is that his best achievements (GSL vs the world / BlizzCon) happened in a very favorable patch for zerg, so all in all his streak is roughly the same as Rogue 2017, except we didn't get to see if Rogue could win 4 WCS in a row: good form in later GSL side event, win BlizzCon while zerg is in a good spot. That's already a superb achievement, especially since no foreigner was able to win BlizzCon in spite of KR competition, but it will be interesting to see how Serral fares across patches in premier tournaments. The current patch is even more zerg favored, though. | ||
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freelifeffs
97 Posts
On March 01 2019 20:46 Rodya wrote: The current patch is even more zerg favored, though. lol no | ||
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Gekk02
Switzerland50 Posts
Its Terran favored, can't you see? | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On March 01 2019 19:35 Waxangel wrote: He gets to keep his preferred lifestyle (living with family in Finland) and still gets to win a lot of prize money and be the best player in the world. I feel like there would have to be a considerable financial incentive for him to go out to Korea for a full GSL cycle. (Or maybe he gets super bored and says 'I wanna try winning a GSL' one day  )But then his fans need to accept that he's missing Code S titles and I believe I am still missing digmouse's answer about his "best player" requirements muhehehe | ||
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On March 02 2019 02:37 fishjie wrote: damn that sucks for maru, hope he can maintain his form in the current GSL. this in no way diminishes the fact that kid is a beast, not only all the shit he HAS won, plus 3 GSLs in a row. a living god. guess even gods have off days. i pray that he wins a weekender so the "MARU SUCKS AT WEEKENDERZ LULZ HE IS BAD" can stfu You are overreacting, nodoby said he sucks at weekenders but it's a fact(a real fact) that he doesn't win them often. | ||
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Doink
75 Posts
On March 02 2019 02:37 fishjie wrote: damn that sucks for maru, hope he can maintain his form in the current GSL. this in no way diminishes the fact that kid is a beast, not only all the shit he HAS won, plus 3 GSLs in a row. a living god. guess even gods have off days. i pray that he wins a weekender so the "MARU SUCKS AT WEEKENDERZ LULZ HE IS BAD" can stfu Maru is really a god for you? You seem just a little bit overly attached to him :D | ||
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 02 2019 07:18 Riner1212 wrote: lol only 1 terran. i wonder who they are going to blame this time. there were no protosses in innovation's and gumiho's group. maru lost to leenock inb4 "nerf zerg" | ||
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skdsk
138 Posts
Thou if i had some i would say terran openings are really predictable, literally 100% reaper openings no variantion. Where is no gas expo? where is cc before rax? where is 1/1/1 ? where are all the variantion that terran was known for in wol/hots? I personally got back only recently like 1 month ago.. but where are all these differnt openings? Both zerg and toss players are taking advantage of these openings and cutting corners doing aggressive builds. | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
On March 02 2019 09:55 skdsk wrote: If you ppl bothered to watch the iem, you would know that Maru/Gumiho/Special/bunny/uthermal had very real chances to advanced, they literally needed only 1 more map win. A lot of games were really close. So even tho only 1 terran advanced, it easily could have been 5 or 6.. Thou if i had some i would say terran openings are really predictable, literally 100% reaper openings no variantion. Where is no gas expo? where is cc before rax? where is 1/1/1 ? where are all the variantion that terran was known for in wol/hots? I personally got back only recently like 1 month ago.. but where are all these differnt openings? Both zerg and toss players are taking advantage of these openings and cutting corners doing aggressive builds. Correct me if im wrong but That only applies to Bunny. Maru, Special, Gumiho, and uThermal lost the head to heads of the 2nd and 3rd places in each group, so they wouldn't have advanced | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On March 02 2019 08:46 BerserkSword wrote: i wonder who they are going to blame this time. there were no protosses in innovation's and gumiho's group. maru lost to leenock inb4 "nerf zerg" You speak the truth | ||
Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
TL mod finally went through everybody | ||
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SpaWnvERtiGO
110 Posts
I think hes enjoying Serrals ascension a little too much... I looked at Marus play from a different perspective.... He practices in a TeamHouse environ, probably mostly with Rogue. When He does his proxies vs Rogue, Rogue most likely defends and still tries to take it to late game, so in the context of the " Jinair Team house meta", him going 3rd CC probably works in practice vs Rogue. This is why I said he looked to be playing more of a Team meta vs the Real Meta. He was just too in his own head. That teamhous ed practice is good for GSL, or WCS. Katowice I think you should just ladder relentlessly.... | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12133 Posts
On March 02 2019 15:04 SpaWnvERtiGO wrote: The one thing I didnt really like was InControl basically calling Maru " Stupid". I think hes enjoying Serrals ascension a little too much... I looked at Marus play from a different perspective.... He practices in a TeamHouse environ, probably mostly with Rogue. When He does his proxies vs Rogue, Rogue most likely defends and still tries to take it to late game, so in the context of the " Jinair Team house meta", him going 3rd CC probably works in practice vs Rogue. This is why I said he looked to be playing more of a Team meta vs the Real Meta. He was just too in his own head. That teamhous ed practice is good for GSL, or WCS. Katowice I think you should just ladder relentlessly.... He's just still bitter about his pro career end IMO. | ||
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
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