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I honestly think Maru is tired of getting these team kills.... It seems to fuck with his mental state....
( He seemed to be trying builds that..... were more tricky than technically sound.... the type of stuff you would do when your opponent knows your playstyle well....)
After the first series vs Trap he seemed on tilt.... Kinda regained it vs Dark, but it was too late....
Rogue killed him at Katowice last year I think..... sOs got him at blizzconn. Trap gets him here....
Lot of people forget, last years Katowice, Trap had Serral on the ropes... hes due for a big result....
Also, Leenock had top tier TvZ last GSL.......he might have, actually yes, he ALMOST killed Maru in GSL..... if my memory serves me correctly, Maru was saved by a tank on the high ground, from a Ravager ling all in..... But he really should a lost then......
People are just looking for any excuse to drag the Koreans down a notch.....
Honestly, I think Reynor not qualifying for the r o 24 was just as surprising.. Lambo?
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On March 01 2019 15:04 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2019 14:37 Togekiss wrote:
I can admit straight up I am the biggest Maru fanboy, but I will say this: His play today was simply put, flat. He continually made uncharacteristically sloppy mistakes in his games like not unloading one of his medivacs during a multi-medivac drop, or losing important units in a battle due to bad control etc etc. Maru rarely makes these kind of control mistakes, but today, it's as if nothing was going right for him, and everything that could possibly go wrong, did go wrong.
It's really easy for people to say that the hype around him is unjustified after watching his performance today (if you don't or haven't really closely followed his games in the past), but honestly, his play today was nowhere near what it is when he's playing in Korea. Maybe travelling abroad just really isn't in his comfort zone, and without his familiar home environment he is unable to play up to his potential? Maybe not having the food he is used to eating, or his regular bed to sleep in really has a bigger impact on him than we realize?
We all know by now that he typically struggles in the weekender format tournaments, but again, for all those out there who are just looking for reasons to write him off entirely, it's blatantly obvious he wasn't on his game today and it was a very VERY bad day for him (which we don't really see in GSL for whatever reason).
Here's to hoping Maru can rebound and show everyone what he's capable of at WESG...
All the previous best players of world are capable of doing well in both weekenders and GSLs.
Plenty of people seem to think Taeja is one of the greatest of all time and he never even made a GSL finals, he just dominated weekenders.
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China6326 Posts
On March 01 2019 15:24 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2019 15:04 digmouse wrote:On March 01 2019 14:37 Togekiss wrote:
I can admit straight up I am the biggest Maru fanboy, but I will say this: His play today was simply put, flat. He continually made uncharacteristically sloppy mistakes in his games like not unloading one of his medivacs during a multi-medivac drop, or losing important units in a battle due to bad control etc etc. Maru rarely makes these kind of control mistakes, but today, it's as if nothing was going right for him, and everything that could possibly go wrong, did go wrong.
It's really easy for people to say that the hype around him is unjustified after watching his performance today (if you don't or haven't really closely followed his games in the past), but honestly, his play today was nowhere near what it is when he's playing in Korea. Maybe travelling abroad just really isn't in his comfort zone, and without his familiar home environment he is unable to play up to his potential? Maybe not having the food he is used to eating, or his regular bed to sleep in really has a bigger impact on him than we realize?
We all know by now that he typically struggles in the weekender format tournaments, but again, for all those out there who are just looking for reasons to write him off entirely, it's blatantly obvious he wasn't on his game today and it was a very VERY bad day for him (which we don't really see in GSL for whatever reason).
Here's to hoping Maru can rebound and show everyone what he's capable of at WESG...
All the previous best players of world are capable of doing well in both weekenders and GSLs. Plenty of people seem to think Taeja is one of the greatest of all time and he never even made a GSL finals, he just dominated weekenders.
Taeja is considered one of the GOATs for his ability in weekenders, but if you narrow it down to "best player the world in a year", Taeja was often "up there but no cigar".
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I'm glad someone brought up Taeja.
After his series vs Serral at HSC, I thought he was going to be the " New, Old member of the Terran horsemen"...
But it's clear, he just had very good TvZ at that moment... like straight up raw muscle memory.....
And Neeb is a GSL semifinalist/ 3 time WCS champion... nothing to sneeze at.... the Serral group is the Death group... But this one was deceptively balanced matchup wise between the players.....
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France12758 Posts
On March 01 2019 11:45 Riner1212 wrote:
so if all the terrans get eliminated tomorrow does that mean terrans will get a buff?
It's very unlikely since the group repartitions are so messed up lol. There are three terrans in group D so it's almost impossible to not see anyone of them qualify, especially since TY should beat the other two in TvT and beating one of soO-Scarlett-Dear shouldn't be very difficult.
In group C the most likely outcome is to have only one of the terrans (probably INno) get out of the groups, like 1. Serral 2. Rogue/INno/Solar 3. Rogue / INno/Solar depending on head-to-head.
However if they don't perform very well despite playing as well as usual in the bracket, there might be some tweaks (not necessarily buffs) since Blizzard seems to be very (too much?) reactive lately regarding balance / design.
I'm almost happy Maru lost though, kid was watched a bit too much recently.
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And this is why I'll never regard Maru as high as IMMvp.
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Czech Republic12128 Posts
On March 01 2019 07:35 yht9657 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2019 07:32 DreamlnCode wrote:
Maru didn't look like he was trying to be honest. Wouldn't surprise me if he was saving his best builds for GSL. Then again. . . Agreed, just like how he saved builds for next year's GSL at Blizzcon quarter finals.
He wasn't, he played very well until he met his teammate who knows him better than anyone else on the scene. That's a quite different situation which showed when sOs countered his build like if he was playing with a maphack. But hey, haters gonna hate, right?
On March 01 2019 09:01 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2019 08:55 BisuDagger wrote:On March 01 2019 08:30 BerserkSword wrote:On March 01 2019 07:57 Xain0n wrote:
I find it hard to think that Maru doesn't care. Why would he even bother to qualify and travel?
Hiding builds at a 150k tournament seems unlikely as well. maru cares. his fanboys are just looking for any excuse they can for his losses i didnt see his series vs trap, but leenock and neeb straight up outplayed him. maybe it's time to come to terms with the fact that maru isnt all he has been hyped up to be, especially in macro games post raven nerf everyone wants to see maru vs serral but i think serral vs innovation, stats, TY, gumiho have a lot more potential I am pretty Maru neutral. I am happy for him if he wins, but am okay if he doesn't. What I am more curious about, is how good he really is against the Starcraft field. He excels in the GSL environment, but his dominance doesn't extend beyond that. So we have to ask how good is he really. I agree. I think he is a cream of the crop player, but i just dont think objective analysis is being done with assessing how good he is. He is championship caliber but is he really in a higher class than the other championship caliber players? not in my opinion.
Well he used to be the best player in Proleague. It's not like he's that terrible in weekenders. (considering Proleague had prep format and ace/all-kill format without the preparation)
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Czech Republic12128 Posts
On March 01 2019 15:04 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2019 14:37 Togekiss wrote:
I can admit straight up I am the biggest Maru fanboy, but I will say this: His play today was simply put, flat. He continually made uncharacteristically sloppy mistakes in his games like not unloading one of his medivacs during a multi-medivac drop, or losing important units in a battle due to bad control etc etc. Maru rarely makes these kind of control mistakes, but today, it's as if nothing was going right for him, and everything that could possibly go wrong, did go wrong.
It's really easy for people to say that the hype around him is unjustified after watching his performance today (if you don't or haven't really closely followed his games in the past), but honestly, his play today was nowhere near what it is when he's playing in Korea. Maybe travelling abroad just really isn't in his comfort zone, and without his familiar home environment he is unable to play up to his potential? Maybe not having the food he is used to eating, or his regular bed to sleep in really has a bigger impact on him than we realize?
We all know by now that he typically struggles in the weekender format tournaments, but again, for all those out there who are just looking for reasons to write him off entirely, it's blatantly obvious he wasn't on his game today and it was a very VERY bad day for him (which we don't really see in GSL for whatever reason).
Here's to hoping Maru can rebound and show everyone what he's capable of at WESG...
All the previous best players of world are capable of doing well in both weekenders and GSLs.
Even Serral? The best player of 2018? 
edit> Fok, double post, sry
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On March 01 2019 17:27 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2019 15:04 digmouse wrote:On March 01 2019 14:37 Togekiss wrote:
I can admit straight up I am the biggest Maru fanboy, but I will say this: His play today was simply put, flat. He continually made uncharacteristically sloppy mistakes in his games like not unloading one of his medivacs during a multi-medivac drop, or losing important units in a battle due to bad control etc etc. Maru rarely makes these kind of control mistakes, but today, it's as if nothing was going right for him, and everything that could possibly go wrong, did go wrong.
It's really easy for people to say that the hype around him is unjustified after watching his performance today (if you don't or haven't really closely followed his games in the past), but honestly, his play today was nowhere near what it is when he's playing in Korea. Maybe travelling abroad just really isn't in his comfort zone, and without his familiar home environment he is unable to play up to his potential? Maybe not having the food he is used to eating, or his regular bed to sleep in really has a bigger impact on him than we realize?
We all know by now that he typically struggles in the weekender format tournaments, but again, for all those out there who are just looking for reasons to write him off entirely, it's blatantly obvious he wasn't on his game today and it was a very VERY bad day for him (which we don't really see in GSL for whatever reason).
Here's to hoping Maru can rebound and show everyone what he's capable of at WESG...
All the previous best players of world are capable of doing well in both weekenders and GSLs. Even Serral? The best player of 2018? edit> Fok, double post, sry
Aaaaaaand the bait again. And yes, you started it (again)
Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure deep down you yourself think that Serral would reach at least semifinals in GSL if he tried. 
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United States33073 Posts
It's hard to play at your best every single day. It's not complicated dudes ~_~
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I just don't get it what kind of "Maru builds" you guys talkin about.. He is a one tricky pony... Proxy builds or standard builds. I can't really recall a "new" build maru invented.. or anything crazy like gumiho, TY's marauder + hellbat timing.. when his opponents let him play macro games, he usually wins, because he is maybe the best mechanical player... his micro and macro is top notch. You can barely see him lose standard matches. But more often then not, he lose when things get out of ordirary... Look at last year's sOs blizzcon. Look at yesterday's neeb matches, Trap's all in, Leenock cancel hatch after proxy rax... He also very sloppy with his scouting, or we can call him greedy, stubborn. Many times loosing to simple all ins, because of the lack of scouting.
In my opinion terran is also the worst race for weekender, best suited for GSL. It is really difficult to come up with unscouted all ins (like proxy or cannonrush from Protoss, or the Zerg all ins with banes/roaches/nydus), and also easiest to scout it's all ins by other races
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Czech Republic12128 Posts
On March 01 2019 17:35 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2019 17:27 deacon.frost wrote:On March 01 2019 15:04 digmouse wrote:On March 01 2019 14:37 Togekiss wrote:
I can admit straight up I am the biggest Maru fanboy, but I will say this: His play today was simply put, flat. He continually made uncharacteristically sloppy mistakes in his games like not unloading one of his medivacs during a multi-medivac drop, or losing important units in a battle due to bad control etc etc. Maru rarely makes these kind of control mistakes, but today, it's as if nothing was going right for him, and everything that could possibly go wrong, did go wrong.
It's really easy for people to say that the hype around him is unjustified after watching his performance today (if you don't or haven't really closely followed his games in the past), but honestly, his play today was nowhere near what it is when he's playing in Korea. Maybe travelling abroad just really isn't in his comfort zone, and without his familiar home environment he is unable to play up to his potential? Maybe not having the food he is used to eating, or his regular bed to sleep in really has a bigger impact on him than we realize?
We all know by now that he typically struggles in the weekender format tournaments, but again, for all those out there who are just looking for reasons to write him off entirely, it's blatantly obvious he wasn't on his game today and it was a very VERY bad day for him (which we don't really see in GSL for whatever reason).
Here's to hoping Maru can rebound and show everyone what he's capable of at WESG...
All the previous best players of world are capable of doing well in both weekenders and GSLs. Even Serral? The best player of 2018? edit> Fok, double post, sry Aaaaaaand the bait again. And yes, you started it (again) Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure deep down you yourself think that Serral would reach at least semifinals in GSL if he tried.
Well I'm not the one who claimed that the best player of the world has to be good at both GSLs and weekenders.
And I said multiple times that Serral is in my eyes top4 player, but hey, let's talk about the best player of the world which has to be good at both weekenders and preparational tournaments. Serral is not that player and Maru is not that player either. Damn.
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this iem still shows why i am SO HAPPY we have a regionlock ... i am so desintrested in all the koreans playing as i see them all the time in gsl
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terran no chance.... unfortunately blizzard is not able to balance the game... alive vs herO and now maru tells the whole story 
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On March 01 2019 17:35 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2019 17:27 deacon.frost wrote:On March 01 2019 15:04 digmouse wrote:On March 01 2019 14:37 Togekiss wrote:
I can admit straight up I am the biggest Maru fanboy, but I will say this: His play today was simply put, flat. He continually made uncharacteristically sloppy mistakes in his games like not unloading one of his medivacs during a multi-medivac drop, or losing important units in a battle due to bad control etc etc. Maru rarely makes these kind of control mistakes, but today, it's as if nothing was going right for him, and everything that could possibly go wrong, did go wrong.
It's really easy for people to say that the hype around him is unjustified after watching his performance today (if you don't or haven't really closely followed his games in the past), but honestly, his play today was nowhere near what it is when he's playing in Korea. Maybe travelling abroad just really isn't in his comfort zone, and without his familiar home environment he is unable to play up to his potential? Maybe not having the food he is used to eating, or his regular bed to sleep in really has a bigger impact on him than we realize?
We all know by now that he typically struggles in the weekender format tournaments, but again, for all those out there who are just looking for reasons to write him off entirely, it's blatantly obvious he wasn't on his game today and it was a very VERY bad day for him (which we don't really see in GSL for whatever reason).
Here's to hoping Maru can rebound and show everyone what he's capable of at WESG...
All the previous best players of world are capable of doing well in both weekenders and GSLs. Even Serral? The best player of 2018? edit> Fok, double post, sry Aaaaaaand the bait again. And yes, you started it (again) Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure deep down you yourself think that Serral would reach at least semifinals in GSL if he tried.
I'd also think Rogue would be able to reach at least the ro4 of GSL yet he hasn't done that yet.
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This thread is gold btw. Serral fans complaining about another player being overhyped it's almost comical.
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On March 01 2019 09:50 Xain0n wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2019 09:35 Argonauta wrote:On March 01 2019 08:57 BerserkSword wrote:On March 01 2019 08:35 Rodya wrote:On March 01 2019 08:30 BerserkSword wrote:On March 01 2019 07:57 Xain0n wrote:
I find it hard to think that Maru doesn't care. Why would he even bother to qualify and travel?
Hiding builds at a 150k tournament seems unlikely as well. maru cares. his fanboys are just looking for any excuse they can for his losses i didnt see his series vs trap, but leenock and neeb straight up outplayed him. maybe it's time to come to terms with the fact that maru isnt all he has been hyped up to be, especially in macro games post raven nerf everyone wants to see maru vs serral but i think serral vs innovation, stats, TY, gumiho have a lot more potential Maru isn't all he has been hyped up to be? We see Maru against the best players in the world every single week in Korea. The hype around Maru extends exactly as far as his results. The moment he loses a match hype starts to die and starts to build around other players who are winning. That's how stardom works in a community that values good performances. It works a bit differently in other communities... Maru is no doubt a hell of a player. However, the hype he gets is ludicrous and does not match his actual ability at all. Maru's most impressive games, imo, were some of those macro TvZ games when the raven was broken and that's gone now. The hype never seemed to die with Maru. even after everyone was clamoring for Serral vs Maru, and Maru got obliterated, exposed, and embarrassed by sOs, people still were trying to play him up as some kind of GOAT player, same caliber as Serral. the supposed greatest player on the planet does not get embarrassed like this in two consecutive premier tournaments The classic "The player I dont like lost in a tournament therefore all he has done so far is shit and people praising him are blinded dont you see?" I bet you also think rogue is a patchzerg. It's funny that you name Rogue who complements Maru perfectly as he only win weekenders and has always failed in Code S so far. The op actually says Maru is great; it's just that he is overhyped to the point his losses seem to be completely overlook and that his fans continue to claim he's still the very best right now in spite of the recent results.
No, it is the same strategy as the good ol' "Im not racist BUT...." OP is making a bland compliment to then claim tons of unfair and out of place things.
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On March 01 2019 18:15 Charoisaur wrote:This thread is gold btw. Serral fans complaining about another player being overhyped it's almost comical.
serral has been barely mentioned in this tread.
Not everyone who is saying maru is overhyped is automatically a serral fanboy.
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On March 01 2019 18:24 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2019 18:15 Charoisaur wrote:This thread is gold btw. Serral fans complaining about another player being overhyped it's almost comical. serral has been barely mentioned in this tread. Not everyone who is saying maru is overhyped is automatically a serral fanboy.
look at the names of the posters tho
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On March 01 2019 18:11 126 wrote:terran no chance.... unfortunately blizzard is not able to balance the game... alive vs herO and now maru tells the whole story
Terran has a chance... Maru lost 2 full medivacs against Neeb in the second game. If he ain't screws up that drop he wins the game.. 9:40 game time check the replay.. he was up 20+ army supply
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