• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:39
CEST 16:39
KST 23:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Remastered crash fix suggestions a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion Syncronization issues and can't find games
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [ASL22] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5758 users

Maru eliminated in IEM Katowice Group Stage (Ro24 Day 1) -…

Forum Index > SC2 General
137 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
March 01 2019 00:51 GMT
#41
Maru plays on the razor's edge thanks to his godly army control but sometimes he cuts too many corners while neglecting souting and has always been stuborn that combination can make anyone look like an idiot every once in a while. Its good that maru keeps loosing like this, it might make him a better player in the future when he matures a bit more and stops treating top tier players like the GSL ro32 cannon fodder he gets every season.

Missed g1 vs Trap but him winning 2-0 is not actually that surprising to me, he is in the same team as maru and has sOs to give him advice on maru who he probably plays a lot as well. Not to mention trap played a spectacular 2nd game. He didn't show his usual starsense on the other two series and ended up losing both 1-2.

Serral's win streak better not end tomorrow or there might be riots.
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 01 2019 00:59 GMT
#42
On March 01 2019 09:51 Doko wrote:
Maru plays on the razor's edge thanks to his godly army control but sometimes he cuts too many corners while neglecting souting and has always been stuborn that combination can make anyone look like an idiot every once in a while. Its good that maru keeps loosing like this, it might make him a better player in the future when he matures a bit more and stops treating top tier players like the GSL ro32 cannon fodder he gets every season.

Missed g1 vs Trap but him winning 2-0 is not actually that surprising to me, he is in the same team as maru and has sOs to give him advice on maru who he probably plays a lot as well. Not to mention trap played a spectacular 2nd game. He didn't show his usual starsense on the other two series and ended up losing both 1-2.

Serral's win streak better not end tomorrow or there might be riots.

yeah I feel like that has been a staple of Maru's play since like 2013, when he's hot he looks incredible but he plays a pretty risky style overall. oh you can bet I will be shitposting if Serral loses tomorrow, actually I will be shitposting either way lol
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
March 01 2019 01:03 GMT
#43
Wouldn't be super surprised if Serral lost his group too but I feel like he's pretty strong when given more games (explains why he is really good at bo7s) so this format is good for him.
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1162 Posts
March 01 2019 01:04 GMT
#44
I am neutral about Maru. he is still one of the top terrans in the world, but today he did not have the eye of the tiger

during his reign of terror, Maru was really only 1 or 2 steps ahead of the competition. not 100 steps, not 10 steps, not even 3 steps -- only 1 or 2 steps. you only need to be 1 step ahead to win a match. if you are always 1 step ahead 100% of the time in all the competitions you play, it looks like you're 100 steps ahead
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 01:09:36
March 01 2019 01:05 GMT
#45
I quoted instead of editing again, it's so disappointing.
I'm very sorry!
See the(double) post below.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 01 2019 01:07 GMT
#46
On March 01 2019 10:05 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 09:45 starkiller123 wrote:
funny to see all the korean haters coming out of the woodwork


Korean haters? Would you please quote the phrases that made you write that?
"Shitposting" would be entitely a fault of your own, I haven't seen a single shitpost; even Rodya's was almost a proper
one.

Pointing out Maru lost early again yet treating him as the top player he definitely is not hate.
Considering WCS championship like garbage tier majors, that's hate.

Moreover, why isn't everyone praising the insane consistency and level of play Stats has at 27 years old?
Is it because he plays the filthy Protoss? Or because he dropped out of the Sacred Code S, much better than BlizzCon and IEM?

As for Maru not taking IEM seriously because he prefers Code S and WESG, why would he even bother to fly to Katowice considering it seems he doesn't like to travel?
He could just skip it, Jin Air sent an appropriate number of players to the tournament.

Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
March 01 2019 01:09 GMT
#47
On March 01 2019 10:05 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 09:45 starkiller123 wrote:
funny to see all the korean haters coming out of the woodwork


Korean haters? Would you please quote the phrases that made you write that?

Pointing out Maru lost early again yet treating him as the top player he definitely is not hate.
Considering WCS championship like garbage tier majors, that's hate.

Moreover, why isn't everyone praising the insane consistency and level of play Stats has at 27 years old?
Is it because he plays the filthy Protoss? Or because he dropped out of the Sacred Code S, much better than BlizzCon and IEM?

As for Maru not taking IEM seriously because he prefers Code S and WESG, why would he even bother to fly to Katowice considering it seems he doesn't like to travel?
He could just skip it, Jin Air sent an appropriate number of players to the tournament.


2019... internet has been out for a while now.... anyone saying a progamer is not taking a tournament of this caliber seriously is trying to troll you.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-01 01:17:05
March 01 2019 01:14 GMT
#48
On March 01 2019 10:03 Anc13nt wrote:
Wouldn't be super surprised if Serral lost his group too but I feel like he's pretty strong when given more games (explains why he is really good at bo7s) so this format is good for him.


Honestly I hope he loses, just so people can start talking about other players for a change.

2018 was already packed full of Maru this and Serral that. What's wrong with anyone else in 2019?
Denominator of the Universe
TL+ Member
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
March 01 2019 01:40 GMT
#49
On March 01 2019 10:14 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2019 10:03 Anc13nt wrote:
Wouldn't be super surprised if Serral lost his group too but I feel like he's pretty strong when given more games (explains why he is really good at bo7s) so this format is good for him.


Honestly I hope he loses, just so people can start talking about other players for a change.

2018 was already packed full of Maru this and Serral that. What's wrong with anyone else in 2019?


Only Bunny and Ragnarok would be breakout players; soO, Trap or any foreigner would have their most important triumph in their careers.

I am rooting for Serral to win, going out in the groupstage would be a huge and unlikely letdown; seeing him lose to witness the resurgence of an established player isn't even a very appealing narrative imho.
gpanda
Profile Joined December 2017
36 Posts
March 01 2019 02:06 GMT
#50
TY becomes other players...
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
March 01 2019 02:10 GMT
#51
Come one Guys lets not hide the fact that Maru played absolutely atrocious the first 3 games... Against Trap its kinda understandable they are team mates but the Leenock and Neeb games would never happen if Maru was on top of his game.
He was off in reaction time, decision making, engagements and micro. Macro alone wont assure anyone anything if everything else is bad. He wouldnt deserve to advance with his showing, so many mistakes and dumb plays... Its a shame but nothing new with him and tourneys outside of Asia.
Lets hope Inno, TY and Gumi can save the Terran reputation tomorrow or whenever the next group is
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
jy_9876543210
Profile Joined March 2016
265 Posts
March 01 2019 02:15 GMT
#52
Glad we have a patch terran now?
Phase 1: F2    Phase 2: A   Phase 3: Profit!
Riner1212
Profile Joined November 2012
United States337 Posts
March 01 2019 02:45 GMT
#53
so if all the terrans get eliminated tomorrow does that mean terrans will get a buff?
Sjow "pretty ez life as protoss"
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
March 01 2019 04:05 GMT
#54
On March 01 2019 11:45 Riner1212 wrote:
so if all the terrans get eliminated tomorrow does that mean terrans will get a buff?

Yes
very illegal and very uncool
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
March 01 2019 05:00 GMT
#55
There is also the fact that current GSL format gives the last year winner a huge advantage. Maru can basically skip trough the group stages. Maybe he had the same attitude here. He seems to shine in bo5/7 series.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3165 Posts
March 01 2019 05:09 GMT
#56
I'm still shocked he didn't make it through. I thought for sure he was going to get a top 2 finish at least.
Artosis loves Starcraft
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1208 Posts
March 01 2019 05:18 GMT
#57
On March 01 2019 14:00 RaFox17 wrote:
There is also the fact that current GSL format gives the last year winner a huge advantage. Maru can basically skip trough the group stages. Maybe he had the same attitude here. He seems to shine in bo5/7 series.


Bo3 definitely favours an upset over the other match types. It's like with any sport. Any person can play below their level on any given day, and conversely, their opponent can play in a way that makes it seem like their opponent is making more mistakes.

For instance, if Neeb loses badly in both bunker games against Maru, suddenly Maru's back in the tournament.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Togekiss
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada154 Posts
March 01 2019 05:37 GMT
#58
I can admit straight up I am the biggest Maru fanboy, but I will say this: His play today was simply put, flat. He continually made uncharacteristically sloppy mistakes in his games like not unloading one of his medivacs during a multi-medivac drop, or losing important units in a battle due to bad control etc etc. Maru rarely makes these kind of control mistakes, but today, it's as if nothing was going right for him, and everything that could possibly go wrong, did go wrong.

It's really easy for people to say that the hype around him is unjustified after watching his performance today (if you don't or haven't really closely followed his games in the past), but honestly, his play today was nowhere near what it is when he's playing in Korea. Maybe travelling abroad just really isn't in his comfort zone, and without his familiar home environment he is unable to play up to his potential? Maybe not having the food he is used to eating, or his regular bed to sleep in really has a bigger impact on him than we realize?

We all know by now that he typically struggles in the weekender format tournaments, but again, for all those out there who are just looking for reasons to write him off entirely, it's blatantly obvious he wasn't on his game today and it was a very VERY bad day for him (which we don't really see in GSL for whatever reason).

Here's to hoping Maru can rebound and show everyone what he's capable of at WESG...

litLikeBic
Profile Joined August 2018
Canada105 Posts
March 01 2019 05:56 GMT
#59
y'all jus need to accept that maru isn't the best player in the world
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 01 2019 06:04 GMT
#60
On March 01 2019 14:37 Togekiss wrote:
I can admit straight up I am the biggest Maru fanboy, but I will say this: His play today was simply put, flat. He continually made uncharacteristically sloppy mistakes in his games like not unloading one of his medivacs during a multi-medivac drop, or losing important units in a battle due to bad control etc etc. Maru rarely makes these kind of control mistakes, but today, it's as if nothing was going right for him, and everything that could possibly go wrong, did go wrong.

It's really easy for people to say that the hype around him is unjustified after watching his performance today (if you don't or haven't really closely followed his games in the past), but honestly, his play today was nowhere near what it is when he's playing in Korea. Maybe travelling abroad just really isn't in his comfort zone, and without his familiar home environment he is unable to play up to his potential? Maybe not having the food he is used to eating, or his regular bed to sleep in really has a bigger impact on him than we realize?

We all know by now that he typically struggles in the weekender format tournaments, but again, for all those out there who are just looking for reasons to write him off entirely, it's blatantly obvious he wasn't on his game today and it was a very VERY bad day for him (which we don't really see in GSL for whatever reason).

Here's to hoping Maru can rebound and show everyone what he's capable of at WESG...


All the previous best players of world are capable of doing well in both weekenders and GSLs.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IntoTheTV X SOOP
11:00
Monthly #1 - Day 1
Percival vs ClassicLIVE!
ByuN vs Rogue
IntoTheiNu 1400
CranKy Ducklings SOOP71
Rex28
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 66
Rex 28
EnDerr 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 3510
Horang2 1593
EffOrt 1106
Hyuk 1069
Light 760
Mini 547
Snow 316
Larva 310
Rush 258
ZerO 200
[ Show more ]
Noble 171
hero 108
Zeus 104
Pusan 71
Killer 66
Mong 65
Hm[arnc] 59
ToSsGirL 32
Sharp 28
sSak 25
Sacsri 15
JulyZerg 10
IntoTheRainbow 9
sorry 9
Dota 2
Gorgc5025
qojqva2920
Dendi1069
febbydoto32
Other Games
singsing2066
B2W.Neo1198
olofmeister1076
hiko814
Liquid`RaSZi484
Lowko447
Hui .300
DeMusliM278
Liquid`VortiX193
FrodaN128
Mew2King104
RotterdaM88
ArmadaUGS86
elazer74
QueenE74
ZerO(Twitch)16
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick948
BasetradeTV20
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile113
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2171
• Nemesis1808
• TFBlade659
Upcoming Events
OSC
7h 21m
Replay Cast
9h 21m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
20h 21m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
GSL
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Shine vs Rush
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-16
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.