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So Serral, who has won literally every tournament he joins for like the last year, goes up 4 spots with his GSL vs the world win.
Stats goes up infinity spots, flying up past everyone to the #3 position just beneath Serral, after getting 2nd place in that same tournament.
It's kind of odd, because maybe he actually is deserving of the #3 spot. But it still hardly seems fair, lol
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On August 08 2018 01:49 travis wrote: So Serral, who has won literally every tournament he joins for like the last year, goes up 4 spots with his GSL vs the world win.
Stats goes up infinity spots, flying up past everyone to the #3 position just beneath Serral, after getting 2nd place in that same tournament.
It's kind of odd, because maybe he actually is deserving of the #3 spot. But it still hardly seems fair, lol
True, and still there are many people in here saying Stats should be #2. I dont get it why cant they accept Serral beat everyone this month? But oh no, hes not korean so he cant possibly be this high...
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Want to see him in an actual GSL season before I buy the hype train.
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I'm down with this list. I think it'd be odd to put Stats at #2 after one good tournament that he didn't even win. Serral's been showing good form for a year, and he loudly answered the question that has haunted him (despite in-part answering it at Katowice and WESG): how does he fair against Koreans? At the end of the day, the fact of the matter is he hasn't lost to ANYONE in quite some time. He deserves his number 2 spot.
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Surprised Classic is still in this list after dropping out of the ro32. When Stats dropped out of the ro16 he completely fell from the list despite having even stronger results previously than Classic now.
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On August 08 2018 02:58 Charoisaur wrote: Surprised Classic is still in this list after dropping out of the ro32. When Stats dropped out of the ro16 he completely fell from the list despite having even stronger results previously than Classic now. They do tend to struggle with consistency. My favorite example being TY getting into the PR despite no results because "he's TY" and then dropping out the next month despite winning all his games.
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On August 08 2018 01:49 travis wrote: So Serral, who has won literally every tournament he joins for like the last year, goes up 4 spots with his GSL vs the world win.
Stats goes up infinity spots, flying up past everyone to the #3 position just beneath Serral, after getting 2nd place in that same tournament.
It's kind of odd, because maybe he actually is deserving of the #3 spot. But it still hardly seems fair, lol Serral only goes up 4 spots because #1 is almost unreachable considering Maru's dominance. Also he won literally every tournament? WESG and Katowice didn't happen?
Stats being so low previously was totally unjustified though and it seems TL writers recognized their mistake.
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Also I disagree with the notion that Serral is close to topping the list. I agree with his ranking but he really shouldn't be close to Maru after winning 1 tournament. When Stats won the Super Tournament he wasn't considered close to Maru despite even having reached the GSL finals before
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On August 08 2018 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2018 01:49 travis wrote: So Serral, who has won literally every tournament he joins for like the last year, goes up 4 spots with his GSL vs the world win.
Stats goes up infinity spots, flying up past everyone to the #3 position just beneath Serral, after getting 2nd place in that same tournament.
It's kind of odd, because maybe he actually is deserving of the #3 spot. But it still hardly seems fair, lol Serral only goes up 4 spots because #1 is almost unreachable considering Maru's dominance. Also he won literally every tournament? WESG and Katowice didn't happen? Stats being so low previously was totally unjustified though and it seems TL writers recognized their mistake. - Also I disagree with the notion that Serral is close to topping the list. I agree with his ranking but he really shouldn't be close to Maru after winning 1 tournament. When Stats won the Super Tournament he wasn't considered close to Maru despite even having reached the GSL finals before
To be fair Maru looks to be in a much shakier form than he was back then. Almost losing to soO's ZvT isn't really what we expect of him.
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United States97274 Posts
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On August 08 2018 04:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2018 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On August 08 2018 01:49 travis wrote: So Serral, who has won literally every tournament he joins for like the last year, goes up 4 spots with his GSL vs the world win.
Stats goes up infinity spots, flying up past everyone to the #3 position just beneath Serral, after getting 2nd place in that same tournament.
It's kind of odd, because maybe he actually is deserving of the #3 spot. But it still hardly seems fair, lol Serral only goes up 4 spots because #1 is almost unreachable considering Maru's dominance. Also he won literally every tournament? WESG and Katowice didn't happen? Stats being so low previously was totally unjustified though and it seems TL writers recognized their mistake. - Also I disagree with the notion that Serral is close to topping the list. I agree with his ranking but he really shouldn't be close to Maru after winning 1 tournament. When Stats won the Super Tournament he wasn't considered close to Maru despite even having reached the GSL finals before To be fair Maru looks to be in a much shakier form than he was back then. Almost losing to soO's ZvT isn't really what we expect of him.
The true test for maru will be gsl, if he bombs out before ro4 serral will overtake him for sure. Probably even if he doesn't make finals at this point :D Though i think maru's style he showed the last two gsls might be somewhat figured out now, this midgame centered gameplay. If soO wouldn't be totally clueless in lategame he would have won rather easily, leenock did it one game and serral as well. Now that stats also showed how to deal with maru in pvt it will be interesting to see how this develops.
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Reasonable enough. I'll humbly admit I was wrong about Serral (though I think he exceeded expectations for even the biggest fanboys as well) and he has clearly earned his #2 spot given that this appears to only cover July - August 5th.
Classic over Gumi is totally stupid though. Gumi has a stronger sampling of games over the past month and a superior win percentage. He also wins in the most important category of actually making it out of his GSL group (in 1st over herO!). Classic's only advantage is GSL vs The World where he only did alright.
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Czech Republic12128 Posts
On August 08 2018 04:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2018 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On August 08 2018 01:49 travis wrote: So Serral, who has won literally every tournament he joins for like the last year, goes up 4 spots with his GSL vs the world win.
Stats goes up infinity spots, flying up past everyone to the #3 position just beneath Serral, after getting 2nd place in that same tournament.
It's kind of odd, because maybe he actually is deserving of the #3 spot. But it still hardly seems fair, lol Serral only goes up 4 spots because #1 is almost unreachable considering Maru's dominance. Also he won literally every tournament? WESG and Katowice didn't happen? Stats being so low previously was totally unjustified though and it seems TL writers recognized their mistake. - Also I disagree with the notion that Serral is close to topping the list. I agree with his ranking but he really shouldn't be close to Maru after winning 1 tournament. When Stats won the Super Tournament he wasn't considered close to Maru despite even having reached the GSL finals before To be fair Maru looks to be in a much shakier form than he was back then. Almost losing to soO's ZvT isn't really what we expect of him. Well even gods need to rest
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Serral ftw. Gotta say I was surprised by his dismantling of both Inno and Dark. Less surprised he beat Stats, but still super impressive. He's easily top 3 in the world, and as likely to be #1 as anyone. If he wins the next premier involving Koreans I'd say he's the first "Best SC2 player in the world not a Korean". I don't think anyone else ever reached that plateau.
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South Korea2105 Posts
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Very reasonable and satisfying PR, except maybe for Trap.
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On August 08 2018 04:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2018 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On August 08 2018 01:49 travis wrote: So Serral, who has won literally every tournament he joins for like the last year, goes up 4 spots with his GSL vs the world win.
Stats goes up infinity spots, flying up past everyone to the #3 position just beneath Serral, after getting 2nd place in that same tournament.
It's kind of odd, because maybe he actually is deserving of the #3 spot. But it still hardly seems fair, lol Serral only goes up 4 spots because #1 is almost unreachable considering Maru's dominance. Also he won literally every tournament? WESG and Katowice didn't happen? Stats being so low previously was totally unjustified though and it seems TL writers recognized their mistake. - Also I disagree with the notion that Serral is close to topping the list. I agree with his ranking but he really shouldn't be close to Maru after winning 1 tournament. When Stats won the Super Tournament he wasn't considered close to Maru despite even having reached the GSL finals before To be fair Maru looks to be in a much shakier form than he was back then. Almost losing to soO's ZvT isn't really what we expect of him. Maru was also in shakey form during supertournament 1, both then and in GSL vs TW he said he was taking time off to recharge so it makes sense.
If he flops in GSL S3 however, then you can make the case his form has dipped.
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Has Maru not won two straight GSL’s as well as other strong performances ? That so rarely happens, so I don’t think it’s close between Serral and Maru just yet, he deserves to comfortably hold that title . I think Serral slotting in right behind him is perfectly fine though, certainly should be above stats.
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Serral proved that he is on the same level as the top koreans. Despite this incredible run, i cant say he is surely the best or even top 3. I think Maru, Rogue, Dark could beat him just as well they could lose to him. Theese guys are very close right now. Maybe Maru is the one who is clearly above everyone hence his continous succes amoung the BEST players.
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On August 08 2018 04:09 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2018 03:02 Charoisaur wrote:On August 08 2018 01:49 travis wrote: So Serral, who has won literally every tournament he joins for like the last year, goes up 4 spots with his GSL vs the world win.
Stats goes up infinity spots, flying up past everyone to the #3 position just beneath Serral, after getting 2nd place in that same tournament.
It's kind of odd, because maybe he actually is deserving of the #3 spot. But it still hardly seems fair, lol Serral only goes up 4 spots because #1 is almost unreachable considering Maru's dominance. Also he won literally every tournament? WESG and Katowice didn't happen? Stats being so low previously was totally unjustified though and it seems TL writers recognized their mistake. - Also I disagree with the notion that Serral is close to topping the list. I agree with his ranking but he really shouldn't be close to Maru after winning 1 tournament. When Stats won the Super Tournament he wasn't considered close to Maru despite even having reached the GSL finals before To be fair Maru looks to be in a much shakier form than he was back then. Almost losing to soO's ZvT isn't really what we expect of him.
Great point, but two things we must consider:
(1) It was blatantly obvious that Maru was freestyling. His only builds were his 2-1-1 tank push or proxy 2 rax. I am surprised with him doing the 2-1-1 tank opener despite it being so out there for all zergs to adapt to ever since he took out rogue with it. He basically puts himself behind doing this. Would be better off doing a fast 3 CC opening but then again hes Maru.
(2) Considering what his ZvT looked like earlier, sOO looked way sharper. I feel he vastly improved his ZvT before this tourney and considering Rogue who didnt play anywhere close to his own level, its tough to say who was better/worse. But I feel sOO wouldve given Inno a very tough fight had they met up.
As far as this tourney goes, obviously serral was way better than an zerg that entered.
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