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HungrySC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States191 Posts
August 08 2018 12:38 GMT
#61
Maru lost because he didn't want to play against Serral in the final.
"First say to yourself what you would be; And then do what you have to do. (Epictetus)
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
August 08 2018 14:04 GMT
#62
Serral is ranked too high again, but at least you guys didn't put him at number one.

He wins a single tournament with Koreans in it (and the least serious korean tournament at that) and all of the sudden he's number 2... lol TL serral fanboy writers never fail to overhype him when given the chance to be the center of attention.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
BjoernK
Profile Joined April 2012
194 Posts
August 08 2018 14:26 GMT
#63
On August 08 2018 23:04 Rodya wrote:
Serral is ranked too high again, but at least you guys didn't put him at number one.

He wins a single tournament with Koreans in it (and the least serious korean tournament at that) and all of the sudden he's number 2... lol TL serral fanboy writers never fail to overhype him when given the chance to be the center of attention.


What place would you give him? Anything below 3 is very hard to justify in my opinion.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
August 08 2018 14:26 GMT
#64
On August 08 2018 23:04 Rodya wrote:
Serral is ranked too high again, but at least you guys didn't put him at number one.

He wins a single tournament with Koreans in it (and the least serious korean tournament at that) and all of the sudden he's number 2... lol TL serral fanboy writers never fail to overhype him when given the chance to be the center of attention.


He's performed well against koreans in two prior tournaments, won 3 WCS events back to back in utterly dominant fashion and his wins against Dark and Inno were pretty convincing. It's hardly "sudden".
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 08 2018 14:31 GMT
#65
On August 08 2018 23:04 Rodya wrote:
Serral is ranked too high again, but at least you guys didn't put him at number one.

He wins a single tournament with Koreans in it (and the least serious korean tournament at that) and all of the sudden he's number 2... lol TL serral fanboy writers never fail to overhype him when given the chance to be the center of attention.


I've lost count of how many things we're fanboys of that all contradict each other.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-08 14:48:13
August 08 2018 14:35 GMT
#66
You guys remember that Serral did beat Rogue, Impact, Zest and Trap at IEM Katowice to reach the semis earlier this year? It's not like this was the first time Serral played vs Koreans and did well.

#2 is perfectly fine after this performance. This is the August 2018 ranking, not the GOAT of LotV ranking.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 08 2018 14:38 GMT
#67
On August 08 2018 23:35 Musicus wrote:
You guys remember that Serral did beat Rogue, Impact, Zest and Trap and IEM Katowice to reach the semis earlier this year? It's not like this was the first time Serral played vs Koreans and did well.

#2 is perfectly fine after this performance. This is the August 2018 ranking, not the GOAT of LotV ranking.

Him being 2nd is fine for sure, the notion that he was extremely close to take 1st is kinda laughable though imo.

On August 08 2018 23:31 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2018 23:04 Rodya wrote:
Serral is ranked too high again, but at least you guys didn't put him at number one.

He wins a single tournament with Koreans in it (and the least serious korean tournament at that) and all of the sudden he's number 2... lol TL serral fanboy writers never fail to overhype him when given the chance to be the center of attention.


I've lost count of how many things we're fanboys of that all contradict each other.


Don't worry about that, the community has the spreadsheet and images rdy.
Now that Taeja's military service is over i expect him on the PR sooner than later
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
August 08 2018 16:30 GMT
#68
On August 08 2018 23:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2018 23:35 Musicus wrote:
You guys remember that Serral did beat Rogue, Impact, Zest and Trap and IEM Katowice to reach the semis earlier this year? It's not like this was the first time Serral played vs Koreans and did well.

#2 is perfectly fine after this performance. This is the August 2018 ranking, not the GOAT of LotV ranking.

Him being 2nd is fine for sure, the notion that he was extremely close to take 1st is kinda laughable though imo.

Show nested quote +
On August 08 2018 23:31 Olli wrote:
On August 08 2018 23:04 Rodya wrote:
Serral is ranked too high again, but at least you guys didn't put him at number one.

He wins a single tournament with Koreans in it (and the least serious korean tournament at that) and all of the sudden he's number 2... lol TL serral fanboy writers never fail to overhype him when given the chance to be the center of attention.


I've lost count of how many things we're fanboys of that all contradict each other.


Don't worry about that, the community has the spreadsheet and images rdy.
Now that Taeja's military service is over i expect him on the PR sooner than later

For what it's worth, no writer put him #1, and there wasn't much of a debate about him being #1.

However, if Maru loses out of the Ro16/continues to show the form he did in GSL vs the World.. the story can change very quickly. That's where the 'close' comes from.
Writermaru pls
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 08 2018 17:01 GMT
#69
On August 09 2018 01:30 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2018 23:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 08 2018 23:35 Musicus wrote:
You guys remember that Serral did beat Rogue, Impact, Zest and Trap and IEM Katowice to reach the semis earlier this year? It's not like this was the first time Serral played vs Koreans and did well.

#2 is perfectly fine after this performance. This is the August 2018 ranking, not the GOAT of LotV ranking.

Him being 2nd is fine for sure, the notion that he was extremely close to take 1st is kinda laughable though imo.

On August 08 2018 23:31 Olli wrote:
On August 08 2018 23:04 Rodya wrote:
Serral is ranked too high again, but at least you guys didn't put him at number one.

He wins a single tournament with Koreans in it (and the least serious korean tournament at that) and all of the sudden he's number 2... lol TL serral fanboy writers never fail to overhype him when given the chance to be the center of attention.


I've lost count of how many things we're fanboys of that all contradict each other.


Don't worry about that, the community has the spreadsheet and images rdy.
Now that Taeja's military service is over i expect him on the PR sooner than later

For what it's worth, no writer put him #1, and there wasn't much of a debate about him being #1.

However, if Maru loses out of the Ro16/continues to show the form he did in GSL vs the World.. the story can change very quickly. That's where the 'close' comes from.


I mean losing in the ro16 or even ro8 would be enough in my book to give serral the number 1 spot assuming he wins wcs. Losing in the ro4 or even gsl finals? For me personally that would not be enough, i guess for TL it would be though (though we can argue about it when/if it happens)

What do you mean with "form" exactly? Maru losing to stats and the bo1 vs serral or do you also look at the close match vs soO and evaluate that negatively for maru ?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-08 17:20:49
August 08 2018 17:20 GMT
#70
I agree with this ranking if you look at achievements. If you look are pure skill though Serral has surpassed every Korean, including Maru.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 08 2018 17:29 GMT
#71
On August 09 2018 01:30 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2018 23:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 08 2018 23:35 Musicus wrote:
You guys remember that Serral did beat Rogue, Impact, Zest and Trap and IEM Katowice to reach the semis earlier this year? It's not like this was the first time Serral played vs Koreans and did well.

#2 is perfectly fine after this performance. This is the August 2018 ranking, not the GOAT of LotV ranking.

Him being 2nd is fine for sure, the notion that he was extremely close to take 1st is kinda laughable though imo.

On August 08 2018 23:31 Olli wrote:
On August 08 2018 23:04 Rodya wrote:
Serral is ranked too high again, but at least you guys didn't put him at number one.

He wins a single tournament with Koreans in it (and the least serious korean tournament at that) and all of the sudden he's number 2... lol TL serral fanboy writers never fail to overhype him when given the chance to be the center of attention.


I've lost count of how many things we're fanboys of that all contradict each other.


Don't worry about that, the community has the spreadsheet and images rdy.
Now that Taeja's military service is over i expect him on the PR sooner than later

For what it's worth, no writer put him #1, and there wasn't much of a debate about him being #1.

However, if Maru loses out of the Ro16/continues to show the form he did in GSL vs the World.. the story can change very quickly. That's where the 'close' comes from.

At this point if Maru drops out of GSL in the Ro16 with his group you need to consider whether he's top 10 at all.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 08 2018 17:33 GMT
#72
On August 09 2018 02:20 MockHamill wrote:
I agree with this ranking if you look at achievements. If you look are pure skill though Serral has surpassed every Korean, including Maru.

How does this "pure skill" manifest itself in reality ?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Z3nith
Profile Joined October 2017
485 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-08 17:45:05
August 08 2018 17:43 GMT
#73
Honestly, I kind of feel Classic is only going to slide lower and lower from here. There was a legitimate argument for him being called the best protoss at the start of the year but I personally feel that Stats has the better claim now. Plus now he's not even in the GSL ro16 he only has GSTL and Blizzcon to impress.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
August 08 2018 18:01 GMT
#74
On August 09 2018 02:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2018 02:20 MockHamill wrote:
I agree with this ranking if you look at achievements. If you look are pure skill though Serral has surpassed every Korean, including Maru.

How does this "pure skill" manifest itself in reality ?


Micro, macro, multitasking and decision making. It is hard to quantify but if you look at the gameplay Serral is playing closer to perfect than any other SC2 player.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 08 2018 18:17 GMT
#75
On August 09 2018 03:01 MockHamill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2018 02:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 09 2018 02:20 MockHamill wrote:
I agree with this ranking if you look at achievements. If you look are pure skill though Serral has surpassed every Korean, including Maru.

How does this "pure skill" manifest itself in reality ?


Micro, macro, multitasking and decision making. It is hard to quantify but if you look at the gameplay Serral is playing closer to perfect than any other SC2 player.

Yeah he is great at all of those things, but "hard to quanitify" is the problem here i think
These absolute skill statements are imaginery if you do not quantify it. I would just stick with the actual results, he does great there :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-08 18:23:46
August 08 2018 18:23 GMT
#76
On August 09 2018 03:01 MockHamill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2018 02:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 09 2018 02:20 MockHamill wrote:
I agree with this ranking if you look at achievements. If you look are pure skill though Serral has surpassed every Korean, including Maru.

How does this "pure skill" manifest itself in reality ?


Micro, macro, multitasking and decision making. It is hard to quantify but if you look at the gameplay Serral is playing closer to perfect than any other SC2 player.

Not sure about this. Anyone looks perfect when they're outclassing their opponents, getting nothing but 3-0's etc. But when Serral is faced with actual challenges you see areas to improve. His matches against Scarlett, Maru, Classic, Has, and Stats certainly showed this.

Another example of this is Maru's WeSG runs. You couldn't find any flaws in his play when he's grinding 3-0 through every foreigner. But the finals against TY and Dark certainly showed some. Even though he was probably putting much more effort into them than the earlier matches.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 08 2018 19:00 GMT
#77
Specifically in the late game Serral doesn't look nearly as flawless, that's why I think Maru made a huge mistake by not playing at a slower pace in the bo1.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
August 08 2018 20:57 GMT
#78
On August 09 2018 01:30 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2018 23:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Now that Taeja's military service is over i expect him on the PR sooner than later

For what it's worth, no writer put him #1, and there wasn't much of a debate about him being #1.


TaeJa is always #1 in my heart's PR.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
August 09 2018 00:18 GMT
#79
On August 09 2018 05:57 Kitai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2018 01:30 Soularion wrote:
On August 08 2018 23:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Now that Taeja's military service is over i expect him on the PR sooner than later

For what it's worth, no writer put him #1, and there wasn't much of a debate about him being #1.


TaeJa is always #1 in my heart's PR.


This dude knows what's up.
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
August 09 2018 00:18 GMT
#80
On August 09 2018 05:57 Kitai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2018 01:30 Soularion wrote:
On August 08 2018 23:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Now that Taeja's military service is over i expect him on the PR sooner than later

For what it's worth, no writer put him #1, and there wasn't much of a debate about him being #1.


TaeJa is always #1 in my heart's PR.


Fruitdealer is #1 in mine.
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