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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13994 Posts
On August 05 2018 00:50 MKStyles wrote: What are u even talking? everyone wanted to see maru vs serral Chads want Stats v Dark | ||
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KR_4EVR
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RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
58 Posts
I know I don't have the skills to even criticize players rightfully because I get rekt when I try myself, but by now shouldn't pro players realize that Serral's signature thing is ling runbys to kill workers, and keep rallied units behind there? (Talking to Protoss, Terran). It just annoys me when people have a great wall but leave the defenses behind it inadequate. Kind of like a castle with thick walls but no people behind. I saw Innovation do a little of this but he was using an entire depot width so his defending units ended up too few. If he had the building space of a half depot open there are numerous times when he could have kept out 100 lings. Korean players simply didn't know Serral's style while Serral watches GSL and studied Korean pros' styles. Serral isn't a foreigner who can be beaten easily like any other foreigners. INnoVation and Dark were kinda arrogant to not know their opponent before the match. They just played too simple without bringing any build or strategy. And this is what they got. Just like when no Koreans knew who Neeb was in 2016 Kespa Cup, and after Neeb won the Kespa Cup, they all started to study Neeb before blizzcon there. | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On August 05 2018 01:17 KR_4EVR wrote: I know I don't have the skills to even criticize players rightfully because I get rekt when I try myself, but by now shouldn't pro players realize that Serral's signature thing is ling runbys to kill workers, and keep rallied units behind there? (Talking to Protoss, Terran). It just annoys me when people have a great wall but leave the defenses behind it inadequate. Kind of like a castle with thick walls but no people behind. I saw Innovation do a little of this but he was using an entire depot width so his defending units ended up too few. If he had the building space of a half depot open there are numerous times when he could have kept out 100 lings. I think they do know. As you correctly pointed out, Inno was doing exactly that. I think Serral upped the number of units he uses for runbys to counter this. He was sending like 30+ lings at times!! That's a crazy amount. And terran players rely on reinforcements. So that investment of 30+ lings to kill a group of reinforcements leaves a terran main army to make a game ending push on its own; not gonna happen. So I don't think it's that these players aren't prepared well, it's just that Serral knows how to runby effectively, even when they are leaving units at home. I'm pretty sure Inno didn't close the depot because he was confident he was leaving enough behind and closing/reopening the depot is a hassle. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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ThunderJunk
United States729 Posts
I was whooping with excitement when Stats Crushed Maru game 3. My favorite part was seeing Maru's face when his army kept getting tagged. He was like, "Ah crap, I'm in a corner, and I can't do anything because Stats is my dad." Feels good. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On August 05 2018 01:17 KR_4EVR wrote: I know I don't have the skills to even criticize players rightfully because I get rekt when I try myself, but by now shouldn't pro players realize that Serral's signature thing is ling runbys to kill workers, and keep rallied units behind there? (Talking to Protoss, Terran). It just annoys me when people have a great wall but leave the defenses behind it inadequate. Kind of like a castle with thick walls but no people behind. I saw Innovation do a little of this but he was using an entire depot width so his defending units ended up too few. If he had the building space of a half depot open there are numerous times when he could have kept out 100 lings. ... trust me koreans know serral and they know his style, its just that basicly serrals strongest play is STANDARD he is so amazing just playing the game so its basicly impossible to prepare for him other then just playing standard ... what people forget is, if u try the same runby it wont work, but serral is good in focusing the enemy on another area while doing it, he just has the better multitask On August 05 2018 03:39 ThunderJunk wrote: Plugging for Stats, because no one else does and he's an absolute monster. I was whooping with excitement when Stats Crushed Maru game 3. My favorite part was seeing Maru's face when his army kept getting tagged. He was like, "Ah crap, I'm in a corner, and I can't do anything because Stats is my dad." Feels good. 1 week ago stats got 0-3 scrubbed by showtime, no idea what he did to get this good now, but i still feel he is the HUGE underdog in the final | ||
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Syn Harvest
United States191 Posts
On August 05 2018 00:05 TheWildShooter wrote: It's going to be a one-sided final, I predict 4-0 or 4-1 in favor of Serral, cuz Stats said in interview that he just can't beat Zerg and all that in his mind about that matchup is just anxiety. Classic also pointed out in his interview that zerg is overpowered. I think Stats might have been trolling his PvZ seems real solid to me. Also take into account that ZvP is Serrals best match up as well. Should make for a great finals | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
On August 05 2018 01:47 RandomOnlyTheHumanLf wrote: Korean players simply didn't know Serral's style while Serral watches GSL and studied Korean pros' styles. Serral isn't a foreigner who can be beaten easily like any other foreigners. INnoVation and Dark were kinda arrogant to not know their opponent before the match. They just played too simple without bringing any build or strategy. And this is what they got. Just like when no Koreans knew who Neeb was in 2016 Kespa Cup, and after Neeb won the Kespa Cup, they all started to study Neeb before blizzcon there. Serral vs Inno was a very bad play by Inno, He made frequently mistakes in that series, so your point could be right. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On August 05 2018 01:17 KR_4EVR wrote: I know I don't have the skills to even criticize players rightfully because I get rekt when I try myself, but by now shouldn't pro players realize that Serral's signature thing is ling runbys to kill workers, and keep rallied units behind there? (Talking to Protoss, Terran). It just annoys me when people have a great wall but leave the defenses behind it inadequate. Kind of like a castle with thick walls but no people behind. I saw Innovation do a little of this but he was using an entire depot width so his defending units ended up too few. If he had the building space of a half depot open there are numerous times when he could have kept out 100 lings. most good players do this, both the runbys and the defense of runbys knowing to do it is rarely the issue - it's multitasking and organization. serral has extremely high skill when it comes to memory and organization of what is happening in the game. not only remembering what is where, but knowing WHEN it is an appropriate time to go to a certain place on the map. he manages to sequence the time to do everything perfectly in his mind. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 05 2018 01:47 RandomOnlyTheHumanLf wrote: Korean players simply didn't know Serral's style while Serral watches GSL and studied Korean pros' styles. Serral isn't a foreigner who can be beaten easily like any other foreigners. INnoVation and Dark were kinda arrogant to not know their opponent before the match. They just played too simple without bringing any build or strategy. And this is what they got. Just like when no Koreans knew who Neeb was in 2016 Kespa Cup, and after Neeb won the Kespa Cup, they all started to study Neeb before blizzcon there. Maybe. Or maybe Serral's just that good. Koreans underestimating foreigners was huge in 2016, I dunno how huge it would be now. | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On August 05 2018 01:47 RandomOnlyTheHumanLf wrote: Korean players simply didn't know Serral's style while Serral watches GSL and studied Korean pros' styles. Serral isn't a foreigner who can be beaten easily like any other foreigners. INnoVation and Dark were kinda arrogant to not know their opponent before the match. They just played too simple without bringing any build or strategy. And this is what they got. Just like when no Koreans knew who Neeb was in 2016 Kespa Cup, and after Neeb won the Kespa Cup, they all started to study Neeb before blizzcon there. INno played basically the same way against Rogue though. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13994 Posts
On August 05 2018 03:39 ThunderJunk wrote: Plugging for Stats, because no one else does and he's an absolute monster. I was whooping with excitement when Stats Crushed Maru game 3. My favorite part was seeing Maru's face when his army kept getting tagged. He was like, "Ah crap, I'm in a corner, and I can't do anything because Stats is my dad." Feels good. bitch pls | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 05 2018 04:17 ZigguratOfUr wrote: INno played basically the same way against Rogue though. And Serral exploited it perfectly. Right down to counterattacking when INno rallies his units onto a lowered depot. I believe Rogue could have done the same with preperation. But he only shows up like that every other event. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On August 05 2018 03:39 ThunderJunk wrote: Plugging for Stats, because no one else does and he's an absolute monster. I was whooping with excitement when Stats Crushed Maru game 3. My favorite part was seeing Maru's face when his army kept getting tagged. He was like, "Ah crap, I'm in a corner, and I can't do anything because Stats is my dad." Feels good. Online Stats sucks, offline Stats rocks. It's an established truth. | ||
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2217 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On August 05 2018 01:47 RandomOnlyTheHumanLf wrote: Korean players simply didn't know Serral's style while Serral watches GSL and studied Korean pros' styles. Serral isn't a foreigner who can be beaten easily like any other foreigners. INnoVation and Dark were kinda arrogant to not know their opponent before the match. They just played too simple without bringing any build or strategy. And this is what they got. Just like when no Koreans knew who Neeb was in 2016 Kespa Cup, and after Neeb won the Kespa Cup, they all started to study Neeb before blizzcon there. ye sure, cuz serral plays such a different style. He plays 100% bread and butter zerg. he just outskilled them today. stop trying to find excuses. that doesn't mean he is clear cut better than them, but he clearly plays on top korean level. | ||
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IArako
Germany195 Posts
Would have liked to see Maru vs Serral though. Also stop finding excuses please, Serral clearly proofed he can compete with top koreans, if you like it or not. | ||
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
Sometimes you watch people play and your like, yeah nice build or good macro, but serral is doing things that I would probably never be able to do. Maru is the same when hes got his agro down. I love being back in the scene, everyone is so much stronger and cleaner in their play it's really a great time to be watching starcraft. Super excited to see who wins. | ||
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