EPTStats and Serral to face off in GSL vs. The World Grand Fi…
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2217 Posts
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nffDionysos1
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According to Liquipedia, the final match between Serral and Stats starts at 11:30 CEST, but the broadcast starts at 08:00. I just want to make sure I don't oversleep and miss the final! | ||
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Rob-Zero
Germany460 Posts
On August 05 2018 05:24 Conut wrote: Honestly when serral plays I love watching the minimap, hes in a class of his own, just thinking about playing him is terrifying, ok not sure how I would ever be able to keep up with him. This. Maybe it´s the same with other players, but with Serral it was the first time for me that i noticed how much shit was going on on the minimap. Simply amazing this guy. | ||
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Anc13nt
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DSK
England1110 Posts
On August 05 2018 00:56 Semikolon wrote: Well, we do have a chance to see a game of Serral vs Maru in the BO9 team match, I guess. Honestly, a Serral all-kill would make me as giddy as a Korean progamer trying to open a bottle of Champers. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On August 05 2018 06:18 DSK wrote: Honestly, a Serral all-kill would make me as giddy as a Korean progamer trying to open a bottle of Champers. it's not all-kill format though | ||
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Kikirik1
45 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17456 Posts
david kim and dustin browder should be proud of what they've created. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13994 Posts
On August 05 2018 06:18 DSK wrote: Honestly, a Serral all-kill would make me as giddy as a Korean progamer trying to open a bottle of Champers. Serral and Maru are forced ace match | ||
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Zerothegreat
United States787 Posts
I'm not doubting his ability, but I would still like to see how he holds up in the regular GSL format. | ||
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RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
58 Posts
ye sure, cuz serral plays such a different style. He plays 100% bread and butter zerg. he just outskilled them today. stop trying to find excuses. that doesn't mean he is clear cut better than them, but he clearly plays on top korean level. No it's not. I watched many Koreans stream right before GSL vs World. They simply seemed to have 0 aware of foreigners. They really underestimated Serral before starting tournament. Predicting that he's gonna be knocked out easily in ro8. And when you see the game and Serral's interview, he actually used his opponents weakness, and used really well the map property like Redshift vs Dark. When I watched Dark's stream, he always veto Redshift. And Dark and INnoVation simply didn't understand what Serral is good at. It was showed that even Serral has weakness in multi pronged attack vs terran. It was revealed vs Kela and previous WCS events. And INnoVation didn't try to use it at all. And even when Neeb won Kespa Cup 2016, the most game was actually look like standard pure macro game to beat top Koreans. People say Neeb won cuz of his pvp but when you look at, he beated the best Korean protoss at that time Stats 3-1, just like Serral beated Dark 3-1 today. And several other great Korea protoss Zest and Trap as well. Neeb simply stomped those 3 top tier Korean protoss 9-1 which was insane. And Koreans started to aware that Neeb was same level with top Koreans, real deal and studied him before blizzon start. And now Koreans know that Serral is something else among foreigners, and he's same level with top Koreans. It doesn't matter even if Serral loses the final vs Stats tomorrow. He proved enough. All Koreans in blizzcon gonna study Serral and this will be the real test for Serral about whether he is even better than Neeb 2016 or not. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
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HotDOSBuns
Canada172 Posts
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
On August 05 2018 04:11 Fango wrote: Maybe. Or maybe Serral's just that good. Koreans underestimating foreigners was huge in 2016, I dunno how huge it would be now. Trust me, koreans don't underestimate Serral. Neeb came out of literally nowhere and 2016 was also a very chaotic domestic year for koreans, but I think people do overrate that 2016 Kespa Cup run. It was essentially all PvP, which Neeb was admittedly very good at, but Serral is a three-dimensional player with more depth than I ever expected. | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
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RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
58 Posts
Trust me, koreans don't underestimate Serral. Neeb came out of literally nowhere and 2016 was also a very chaotic domestic year for koreans, but I think people do overrate that 2016 Kespa Cup run. It was essentially all PvP, which Neeb was admittedly very good at, but Serral is a three-dimensional player with more depth than I ever expected. Yes they clearly did. Maru interviewed that Serral is not good yet to defeat INno or Rogue, and Dark in his stream said he does not see any foreigners same level as top Koreans. They clearly did not see Serral is this good as top Koreans. | ||
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
On August 05 2018 10:10 RandomOnlyTheHumanLf wrote: Yes they clearly did. Maru interviewed that Serral is not good yet to defeat INno or Rogue, and Dark in his stream said he does not see any foreigners same level as top Koreans. They clearly did not see Serral is this good as top Koreans. Well, okay. I think Maru maybe does, and Dark likes portraying a ton of confidence, but you could tell that he was a little shaky when time to play Serral actually came, and INno showed some nerves in his interview (praising Serral for his solo queue MMR). On top of that a lot of other koreans who are a little more cerebral and prep-oriented do have very high opinions of Serral. It's not a Neeb situation at all. | ||
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vyzion87
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frazzle
United States468 Posts
On August 05 2018 10:09 Proko wrote: Serral still looking excellent. I was worried about the ZvZ but Scarlett's ZvZ looked better than Dark's, somehow. Koreans have been wary of Scarlett for awhile. She's earned legit cred with them over the years. They know she can dumpster any of them if she is on fire (just as they know an Impact or Solar or Ragnarok can beat any top Korean), but they will always pick her assuming she is being her normal half-invested self. Even Neeb during his KeSPA Cup run was saying how much better he thought Scarlett was. | ||
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RandomOnlyTheHumanLf
58 Posts
Well, okay. I think Maru maybe does, and Dark likes portraying a ton of confidence, but you could tell that he was a little shaky when time to play Serral actually came, and INno showed some nerves in his interview (praising Serral for his solo queue MMR). On top of that a lot of other koreans who are a little more cerebral and prep-oriented do have very high opinions of Serral. It's not a Neeb situation at all. I watched INnoVation stream as well right before GSL vs World and even he didn't seem to give a respect about foreigners from what he said there. And after GSL vs World begins he just started to know who Serral was. This clearly says he didn't know who Serral is until he got same bracket with Serral. And even during his interview, he mentioned that he thought Serral was no big deal, but after he knew how good is Serral, he got surprised and started to worry. But I am pretty sure blizzcon will tell everything, which gives players long enough time to prepare. And Koreans pros in blizzcon will study Serral just like they did against Neeb in 2016. Although I think Serral has probably more potential than even Rogue and Dark in future, it was still very clear that Korean players did not fully understand about their foreign opponent in this tournament. | ||
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