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High Templar Shoots ?

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elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 15:53:13
April 20 2018 15:07 GMT
#1
Watching Winner Match - Classic (P) vs. ByuN (T) Starcraft 2 GSL 2018 Season 2 Group A , I stumbled and got amazed a high templar shoots a CC. From Liquipedia HT description it says - "The High Templar (often abbreviated to HT) is a spell-casting unit for the Protoss. The High Templar is warped in from a Gateway, with the Templar Archives as a prerequisite. High Templar can cast Feedback to damage and drain the energy of enemy spellcasters. After an upgrade, High Templar can cast the devastating Psionic Storm spell, wreaking damage to all units in an area of effect. Finally, any two High Templar and/or Dark Templar can merge to form an Archon.". As far as I've played and used broodwar HT and SC2 HT, can't remember it shoots. Haven't played sc2 for many months though LOL
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 15:13:08
April 20 2018 15:12 GMT
#2
In a recent patch they gave them a basic attack. It only does 5 damage though so it's quite negligible. They only added it so that if you attack-move them they don't just walk into the enemy.
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Icarus2
Profile Joined March 2017
China109 Posts
April 20 2018 15:17 GMT
#3
Several weeks ago HT can even cast feedback on Terran OC, so don't get panicked
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 15:25:24
April 20 2018 15:20 GMT
#4
LOL I panicked at how can I properly embed a youtube video =( . iframe or <embed> code ?
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
April 20 2018 15:36 GMT
#5
On April 21 2018 00:20 elmerpogs wrote:
LOL I panicked at how can I properly embed a youtube video =( . iframe or <embed> code ?

Just copy & paste the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=677&v=hZAkpK_6KIc
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
April 20 2018 15:40 GMT
#6
Because protoss army was too difficult to master ...
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
April 20 2018 15:42 GMT
#7
On April 21 2018 00:40 DieuCure wrote:
Because protoss army was too difficult to master ...

protoss is an extremely micro-intensive race in LOTV, yes
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Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
April 20 2018 16:02 GMT
#8
On April 21 2018 00:42 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2018 00:40 DieuCure wrote:
Because protoss army was too difficult to master ...

protoss is an extremely micro-intensive race in LOTV, yes

LoL

orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
April 20 2018 16:03 GMT
#9
On April 21 2018 00:12 Fango wrote:
In a recent patch they gave them a basic attack. It only does 5 damage though so it's quite negligible. They only added it so that if you attack-move them they don't just walk into the enemy.


What the -- why would they encourage a-moving??
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Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
April 20 2018 16:04 GMT
#10
On April 21 2018 00:12 Fango wrote:
In a recent patch they gave them a basic attack. It only does 5 damage though so it's quite negligible. They only added it so that if you attack-move them they don't just walk into the enemy.

Then they should give that to infestors, vipers & ravens as well right? HT is the best caster in the game by a great margin, yet it costs less minerals already...
Shin_Gouki
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
April 20 2018 16:26 GMT
#11
On April 21 2018 01:03 orvinreyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2018 00:12 Fango wrote:
In a recent patch they gave them a basic attack. It only does 5 damage though so it's quite negligible. They only added it so that if you attack-move them they don't just walk into the enemy.


What the -- why would they encourage a-moving??


It wasn't fair that ravens and infestors have an auto attack while the HT didn't. They wanted to balance the micro of all the castors.
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 16:30:00
April 20 2018 16:27 GMT
#12
It deals 4 damage, and it seems philosophy-wise it will be streamlined better if we also gave basic attacks to Vipers, Infestors, and Ravens too (like the Arbiter from BW).
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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
April 20 2018 16:42 GMT
#13
It is just smart business from Blizzard. Not everyone wants stress when they play, some people just want to relax. So they made Protoss.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5218 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 16:50:56
April 20 2018 16:49 GMT
#14
On April 21 2018 01:42 MockHamill wrote:
It is just smart business from Blizzard. Not everyone wants stress when they play, some people just want to relax. So they made Protoss.

You know what I am most impressed with?

I am impressed that so many highly skilled players like you guys humbly choose to play Zerg and Terran so we don't have to endure year after year of you guys winning the GSL with Protoss.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
April 20 2018 17:08 GMT
#15
On April 21 2018 01:42 MockHamill wrote:
It is just smart business from Blizzard. Not everyone wants stress when they play, some people just want to relax. So they made Protoss.


So that's why Classic is aging so well ?!
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Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
April 20 2018 21:22 GMT
#16
We've all seen infestors, high templars and ravens run into the frontlines. What made them give the HT attacks? There are many casters without attacks, why did the HTs get it? Protoss also got the sentry which essentially got a useless attack. I'm not whining about protoss being easy, but is there some idea behind it?
Odowan Paleolithic
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States232 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-20 21:40:00
April 20 2018 21:36 GMT
#17
On April 21 2018 01:03 orvinreyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2018 00:12 Fango wrote:
In a recent patch they gave them a basic attack. It only does 5 damage though so it's quite negligible. They only added it so that if you attack-move them they don't just walk into the enemy.


What the -- why would they encourage a-moving??

Right now it has the other problem. Fast units can draw templars away by kite or reverse kite it. In the non attacking version the AI will run-away from attackers (like workers and other "caster" behaves). Right now the templars will actively seek engagement (and get killed).

On April 21 2018 06:22 Zephyp wrote:
We've all seen infestors, high templars and ravens run into the frontlines. What made them give the HT attacks? There are many casters without attacks, why did the HTs get it? Protoss also got the sentry which essentially got a useless attack. I'm not whining about protoss being easy, but is there some idea behind it?

I do not like it.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
April 20 2018 21:45 GMT
#18
I thought this change made High templars easier to use.
Then I played protoss and realized that when amoving them they shoot at the first units in range and thus stay too far in the back to hit the big clump of bio units.
This change actually made them harder to use.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
April 20 2018 22:00 GMT
#19
On April 21 2018 01:02 Aegwynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2018 00:42 brickrd wrote:
On April 21 2018 00:40 DieuCure wrote:
Because protoss army was too difficult to master ...

protoss is an extremely micro-intensive race in LOTV, yes

LoL



Oh look another conversation displaying how the community is ass. One day; I just want one day.
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
April 20 2018 22:01 GMT
#20
On April 21 2018 06:22 Zephyp wrote:
We've all seen infestors, high templars and ravens run into the frontlines. What made them give the HT attacks? There are many casters without attacks, why did the HTs get it? Protoss also got the sentry which essentially got a useless attack. I'm not whining about protoss being easy, but is there some idea behind it?


Raven's fly, infestors can burrow. High Templar are slow as fuck
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