EPTPower Rank: April 2018 - Page 2
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argonautdice
Canada2722 Posts
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
On April 04 2018 20:29 Poopi wrote: He qualified for both GSL and GSL ST, and trashed herO / Stats / Creator. That's better than Impact. So you're basically counting an online series against Stats and arguably herO, and then 2-1 wins vs Hurricane and Impact as him being top 16. Meanwhile Impact got out of IEM Katowice groups, beat Stats online *twice*, beat Dear and Rogue online, and recently beat Solar as well. His online repertoire is better, and while ByuN got the better of him at GSL ST quals, Impact showed up to IEM Katowice and proved he could play at a fairly high level when the stakes are high. | ||
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barcodeno1
20 Posts
serral is best foreign gamer in WCS but he didn't play in GSL and WCS Korea | ||
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Poopi
France13022 Posts
On April 04 2018 23:03 Soularion wrote: So you're basically counting an online series against Stats and arguably herO, and then 2-1 wins vs Hurricane and Impact as him being top 16. Meanwhile Impact got out of IEM Katowice groups, beat Stats online *twice*, beat Dear and Rogue online, and recently beat Solar as well. His online repertoire is better, and while ByuN got the better of him at GSL ST quals, Impact showed up to IEM Katowice and proved he could play at a fairly high level when the stakes are high. It's very simple, let's do the math. In 2018 : Impact went from 2440 aligulac rating to 2442, he gained 2 points. ByuN went from 2564 aligulac rating to 2588, he gained 24 points. Not only did ByuN gain more points in 2018 than Impact, he was at an higher rating, so had he performed the same (same win/loss against the same players) as Impact, he would have gained less points than him (probably lost points). | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
He is the best foreign Zerg ever in pure skill. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5226 Posts
You'd think he would have recieved it after he became the youngest Royal Roader to win an OSL. But no he was placed second... Innovation was placed first. That was in spite of the fact Maru had just rolled through Innovation 4-0. On April 05 2018 00:31 MockHamill wrote: I agree with Maru as number one but I would put Serral in the top 4. He is the best foreign Zerg ever in pure skill. Except for Stephano... | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
On April 05 2018 01:24 BronzeKnee wrote: Finally, Maru deservedly tops the power rank! The anti-Maru bias has lived on for a long time, it must have been a bitter pill to swallow. You'd think he would have recieved it after he became the youngest Royal Roader to win an OSL. But no he was placed second... Innovation was placed first. That was in spite of the fact Maru had just rolled through Innovation 4-0. Except for Stephano... The skill level is so much higher now compared to when Stephano was at his best. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16101 Posts
On April 04 2018 22:52 xelnaga_empire wrote: Aside from Maru, all the other Terran have a poor power rank. Sucks to be Terran now. If they would just abuse OP Ravens like Maru does top 10 Power Rank would be only terrans. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16101 Posts
On April 05 2018 00:31 MockHamill wrote: I agree with Maru as number one but I would put Serral in the top 4. He is the best foreign Zerg ever in pure skill. Serral is good but there's no way he's a top 5 player right now. For that he got beaten too badly by Maru and Classic (in the series that mattered). | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On April 04 2018 19:10 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote: Serral hasn't set foot in the GSL, but he's beat enough GSL players to have a top ten power rank spot on lockdown. Here's the list of Code S (Season 1 & 2) players he beat on his way to top four finishes at IEM and WESG: Rogue, Impact, Zest, Trap, Classic, Elazer, and TRUE. I'm not sure I agree with this. His top 4 finishes at IEM and WeSG are impressive result wise, but he had much easier runs than the other players. I prefer to rank people based on performance/runs, not just the result. The only top 10 players Serral beat were Rogue and Classic (in the wesg match at least). Which admittedly are very tough opponents, even if both of them have vZ as their weakest MU, so I'll give him that. I'd still put Serral in the top 15 somewhere just for his ridiculous consistancy in wins, even if they aren't against the absolute best. | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
Except for Maru I do not see any Korean that is clearly better. He is on the same level as Dark and Classic. | ||
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Durnuu
13326 Posts
On April 05 2018 03:33 MockHamill wrote: Serral all-killed Korea. His aligulac ranking is the highest in the world. Except for Maru I do not see any Korean that is clearly better. He is on the same level as Dark and Classic. Serral didn't all-kill Korea. Unless Poland = Korea in your mind. | ||
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
On April 05 2018 03:34 Durnuu wrote: Serral didn't all-kill Korea. Unless Poland = Korea in your mind. I provided some alternative facts. Still, Koreans are overrated. The gap used to be huge but it is not any more. Top Koreans are just slightly better than top foreigners now and I think Serral will pass every Korean (with the possible exception of Maru) within a year. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On April 05 2018 04:34 MockHamill wrote: I provided some alternative facts. Still, Koreans are overrated. The gap used to be huge but it is not any more. Top Koreans are just slightly better than top foreigners now and I think Serral will pass every Korean (with the possible exception of Maru) within a year. Yeah foreigners are so close that serral was literally the only foreigner who made it out of groups at IEM WC. Serral is by far the best foreigner now and basically korean lvl, still worse than the absolute top players though and especially in zvt he might lose vs any good korean terran. | ||
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Poopi
France13022 Posts
Losing to Kelazhur is disappointing even tho it was mech which is easy enough for foreigners / Gumiho level mechanics Top 8 for a foreigner is an Amazing ranking already, top 4 would be silly | ||
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On April 05 2018 04:34 MockHamill wrote: I provided some alternative facts. Still, Koreans are overrated. The gap used to be huge but it is not any more. Top Koreans are just slightly better than top foreigners now and I think Serral will pass every Korean (with the possible exception of Maru) within a year. Maybe if/when that happens, TL will put him further up in the power ranks. I feel like they justified their position pretty well. I really liked this power rank, not least because Maru is at the top of it. The only thing I would potentially change is swapping Dark and Rogue. Rogue had a hot streak and his form is still a bit of a confusing question mark. I feel like if Maru becomes SC2's Flash (I know, I know... but a guy can dream, right?), Rogue could be SC2's Jaedong. But we're not there quite yet. Despite the painful familiarity of Dark's overall inability to take a championship while looking as good as possible, I think his consistency should probably put him a step above Rogue right now. But I guess we'll see what happens at the ST. It could be Rogue's kinda tournament. Maru-Rogue finals? | ||
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Tyrhanius
France947 Posts
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scoo2r
Canada91 Posts
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Mun_Su
France2063 Posts
On April 05 2018 04:34 MockHamill wrote: I provided some alternative facts. Still, Koreans are overrated. The gap used to be huge but it is not any more. Top Koreans are just slightly better than top foreigners now and I think Serral will pass every Korean (with the possible exception of Maru) within a year. Are you a troll ? | ||
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SnowAngel
Finland38 Posts
On April 05 2018 05:15 Poopi wrote: Serral hasn't reached Stephano level yet, far from it. According to Stephano himself, he is a lot better nowadays than at the time of his greatest results. The game was simply easier then, people weren't that good. Source: And I would make a brave argument, without providing any evidence, that Serral is infinitely better than Stephano in the present. Stephano is still a good player, better than many give him credit for, but he is playing in a different league than Serral (figuratively speaking). | ||
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