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Okay this is getting derailed into the same region lock debate as always.

Please stay on the topic of GSL qualifiers.
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
March 28 2018 15:19 GMT
#41
On March 28 2018 23:26 bObA wrote:
Really sad for MMA...
Do not understand how herO managed not to qualify for GSL. He is one of the most consistent protoss ever...


Simple, he got protossed.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
March 28 2018 15:24 GMT
#42
eMotion 2020 GSL champ
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 28 2018 15:29 GMT
#43
Wow, congrats to SortOf, Zanster and Elazer for joining Scarlett. I hope this inspires more foreigners to give it a try in the future!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
March 28 2018 15:49 GMT
#44
On March 28 2018 17:23 Mun_Su wrote:
WTF herO :o

Also why all foreigner that tries GSL qualifiers are Zerg.


Nothing to do with being the strongest race in the game for 8 years...nothing like that at all
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
jahnesta
Profile Joined February 2014
France62 Posts
March 28 2018 15:51 GMT
#45
Glad to see TRUE coming back in GSL ! He did well in the latest qualifiers and I hope he'll have a good run in Code S. I'll cheer for him and Rogue, the two sexiest zergs on Earth !
Stephano Life Jaedong TRUE Rogue
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
March 28 2018 15:53 GMT
#46
On March 29 2018 00:29 BaneRiders wrote:
Wow, congrats to SortOf, Zanster and Elazer for joining Scarlett. I hope this inspires more foreigners to give it a try in the future!

Hopefully not
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
March 28 2018 16:35 GMT
#47
With the region lock for the Circuit tournaments and the GSL being an open-to-all tournament, it feels like the Korean scene is consistently receiving the shorter end of the stick. I understand the notion of the GSL being the most competitive tournament, but I'm starting to warm up more and more to the idea of making the GSL a tourament open only to Koreans if that means Korean rookies have a better chance at entering a tournament. That and Parting, MMA, herO, TY, and etc being knocked out really doesn't help with my thoughts
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 28 2018 16:36 GMT
#48
On March 29 2018 01:35 Mahanaim wrote:
With the region lock for the Circuit tournaments and the GSL being an open-to-all tournament, it feels like the Korean scene is consistently receiving the shorter end of the stick. I understand the notion of the GSL being the most competitive tournament, but I'm starting to warm up more and more to the idea of making the GSL a tourament open only to Koreans if that means Korean rookies have a better chance at entering a tournament. That and Parting, MMA, herO, TY, and etc being knocked out really doesn't help with my thoughts

TY made it.
Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
March 28 2018 16:52 GMT
#49
Did Serral and Neeb not want to try? Having Elazer and Scarlett back in is cool, but how are the others going to go really
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
March 28 2018 16:54 GMT
#50
On March 29 2018 01:35 Mahanaim wrote:
With the region lock for the Circuit tournaments and the GSL being an open-to-all tournament, it feels like the Korean scene is consistently receiving the shorter end of the stick. I understand the notion of the GSL being the most competitive tournament, but I'm starting to warm up more and more to the idea of making the GSL a tourament open only to Koreans if that means Korean rookies have a better chance at entering a tournament. That and Parting, MMA, herO, TY, and etc being knocked out really doesn't help with my thoughts


I think you should make GSL and WCS mutually exclusive, so if foreigner decide to try the qualifier for the GSL they can't play in WCS just like the koreans.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 17:03:50
March 28 2018 17:03 GMT
#51
Special didn't make it?
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
March 28 2018 17:05 GMT
#52
Since there is no SSL, it would be nice if GSL could get some additional support.
10dla
Profile Joined March 2018
127 Posts
March 28 2018 17:27 GMT
#53
Why is it cool that foreigner take gsl spots off struggling koreans?
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
March 28 2018 19:01 GMT
#54
On March 29 2018 02:27 10dla wrote:
Why is it cool that foreigner take gsl spots off struggling koreans?

Because them going 1-4 in maps is worth further destroying the bottom of the Korean scene.
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
March 28 2018 19:27 GMT
#55
Code A really would be great. Foreigners getting into Code S would be a much higher accomplishment and the scene would get more competetive again
Perhaps next year GSL vs the World (96k $ prizemoney) could be cancelled. 32k $ prizemoney per season would be enough. 32 players in 8-player round robin groups, top 3 of each group (or top 12 if antother format) advances to code S. 25th-32nd of code S goes down to code A, 17th-24th of Code S has to fight in relegation matches - top 4 stays in code S, the rest goes to code A of next season. Only those 4 players are seeded into next code A - the other 28 spots have to be filled via qualifiers.
Even the costs of the event shouldn't be higher for such a code A. You'd need 4 days (like GSL vs World), perhaps one additional day for relegation matches
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2720 Posts
March 28 2018 19:29 GMT
#56
On March 29 2018 04:01 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 02:27 10dla wrote:
Why is it cool that foreigner take gsl spots off struggling koreans?

Because them going 1-4 in maps is worth further destroying the bottom of the Korean scene.

Because getting 0-3'd in quarterfinal is worth further destroying the non-top8s of the Korean scence.
very illegal and very uncool
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 22:03:57
March 28 2018 22:02 GMT
#57
Woah woah woah woah...woah...herO didn't make it?! Wat

Omg herO was due for the PartinG Award if he hit the ro16 this season, something I thought would never be repeated again fucking ouch.

That's worse than Leenock and SuNo missing the NesTea Award by 1 season.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
March 28 2018 22:12 GMT
#58
Code A really would be great. Foreigners getting into Code S would be a much higher accomplishment and the scene would get more competetive again
Perhaps next year GSL vs the World (96k $ prizemoney) could be cancelled. 32k $ prizemoney per season would be enough. 32 players in 8-player round robin groups, top 3 of each group (or top 12 if antother format) advances to code S. 25th-32nd of code S goes down to code A, 17th-24th of Code S has to fight in relegation matches - top 4 stays in code S, the rest goes to code A of next season. Only those 4 players are seeded into next code A - the other 28 spots have to be filled via qualifiers.
Even the costs of the event shouldn't be higher for such a code A. You'd need 4 days (like GSL vs World), perhaps one additional day for relegation matches


It would be even better to move Code S and Code A for that matter to Europe. We will see how good Koreans will be in 2-3 years vs foreigners.
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
March 28 2018 22:33 GMT
#59
On March 29 2018 02:27 10dla wrote:
Why is it cool that foreigner take gsl spots off struggling koreans?

What the hell is wrong with all of you, whats not cool with foreigners winning GSL code S spots?

You all act as if the spots where won in a raffle, Sortof got first spot in his bracket defeating unknown korean, Creator and eMotion.
Elazer got his spot defeating PartinG and Hurricane.
Zanster went through Salvation and Ragnarok.
Scarlett went through TY and Bunny to take first spot.

All of the above are high level korean pros (even though PartinGs form is unknown), its not like they got through based on bracket luck. Almost no foreigner faced other foreigners, they took their spots fair and square and that is really cool to see.

I hate the WCS system where koreans are locked into korea but don't blame that on the foreigners that are kicking ass.

Its quite simple really, the best players should qualify, I believe that was the spirit of GSL and I also believed that was the reason you korean pro fans loved it so much. Half the fanbase cried that it was unfair when koreans went abroad and stole the money from the foreigner pros, the other half argued its fair the best players should go to the tournaments and earn the money. These korean pro fans that wanted them to be able to go any tournament is now crying that its unfair that foreigners are allowed to go to korea and win money if they are better than the koreans? Its like a bad tv show, the ultimate hypocrites.

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Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 22:48:15
March 28 2018 22:45 GMT
#60
On March 29 2018 07:33 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 02:27 10dla wrote:
Why is it cool that foreigner take gsl spots off struggling koreans?

What the hell is wrong with all of you, whats not cool with foreigners winning GSL code S spots?

You all act as if the spots where won in a raffle, Sortof got first spot in his bracket defeating unknown korean, Creator and eMotion.
Elazer got his spot defeating PartinG and Hurricane.
Zanster went through Salvation and Ragnarok.
Scarlett went through TY and Bunny to take first spot.

All of the above are high level korean pros (even though PartinGs form is unknown), its not like they got through based on bracket luck. Almost no foreigner faced other foreigners, they took their spots fair and square and that is really cool to see.

I hate the WCS system where koreans are locked into korea but don't blame that on the foreigners that are kicking ass.

Its quite simple really, the best players should qualify, I believe that was the spirit of GSL and I also believed that was the reason you korean pro fans loved it so much. Half the fanbase cried that it was unfair when koreans went abroad and stole the money from the foreigner pros, the other half argued its fair the best players should go to the tournaments and earn the money. These korean pro fans that wanted them to be able to go any tournament is now crying that its unfair that foreigners are allowed to go to korea and win money if they are better than the koreans? Its like a bad tv show, the ultimate hypocrites.

You're missing the point. Foreigners have their own special tournaments that koreans aren't allowed to compete in. Yet they're also allowed to play in the korean tournaments and earn money there as well. Which is blatently unfair to the koreans as it's their primary source of competition.

Koreans previously going to foreigner tournaments and "stealing money" wasn't at all the same thing. There's no hypocrisy there because region locking didn't exist during this time. If foreigners wanted to play in korea they could, in fact some of them did. During this time both koreans and foreigners could play anywhere.

If you agree that the best players should be the ones who qualify, then that same mentality should apply to the WCS events where koreans aren't allowed into.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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