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Okay this is getting derailed into the same region lock debate as always. Please stay on the topic of GSL qualifiers. | ||
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
On March 28 2018 23:26 bObA wrote: Really sad for MMA... Do not understand how herO managed not to qualify for GSL. He is one of the most consistent protoss ever... Simple, he got protossed. | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On March 28 2018 17:23 Mun_Su wrote: WTF herO :o Also why all foreigner that tries GSL qualifiers are Zerg. Nothing to do with being the strongest race in the game for 8 years...nothing like that at all | ||
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jahnesta
France62 Posts
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On March 29 2018 00:29 BaneRiders wrote: Wow, congrats to SortOf, Zanster and Elazer for joining Scarlett. I hope this inspires more foreigners to give it a try in the future! Hopefully not | ||
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Mahanaim
Korea (South)1002 Posts
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
On March 29 2018 01:35 Mahanaim wrote: With the region lock for the Circuit tournaments and the GSL being an open-to-all tournament, it feels like the Korean scene is consistently receiving the shorter end of the stick. I understand the notion of the GSL being the most competitive tournament, but I'm starting to warm up more and more to the idea of making the GSL a tourament open only to Koreans if that means Korean rookies have a better chance at entering a tournament. That and Parting, MMA, herO, TY, and etc being knocked out really doesn't help with my thoughts TY made it. | ||
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Myrddrael
United Kingdom291 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On March 29 2018 01:35 Mahanaim wrote: With the region lock for the Circuit tournaments and the GSL being an open-to-all tournament, it feels like the Korean scene is consistently receiving the shorter end of the stick. I understand the notion of the GSL being the most competitive tournament, but I'm starting to warm up more and more to the idea of making the GSL a tourament open only to Koreans if that means Korean rookies have a better chance at entering a tournament. That and Parting, MMA, herO, TY, and etc being knocked out really doesn't help with my thoughts I think you should make GSL and WCS mutually exclusive, so if foreigner decide to try the qualifier for the GSL they can't play in WCS just like the koreans. | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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Kalera
United States338 Posts
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10dla
127 Posts
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Boggyb
2855 Posts
On March 29 2018 02:27 10dla wrote: Why is it cool that foreigner take gsl spots off struggling koreans? Because them going 1-4 in maps is worth further destroying the bottom of the Korean scene. | ||
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
Perhaps next year GSL vs the World (96k $ prizemoney) could be cancelled. 32k $ prizemoney per season would be enough. 32 players in 8-player round robin groups, top 3 of each group (or top 12 if antother format) advances to code S. 25th-32nd of code S goes down to code A, 17th-24th of Code S has to fight in relegation matches - top 4 stays in code S, the rest goes to code A of next season. Only those 4 players are seeded into next code A - the other 28 spots have to be filled via qualifiers. Even the costs of the event shouldn't be higher for such a code A. You'd need 4 days (like GSL vs World), perhaps one additional day for relegation matches | ||
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argonautdice
Canada2719 Posts
On March 29 2018 04:01 Boggyb wrote: Because them going 1-4 in maps is worth further destroying the bottom of the Korean scene. Because getting 0-3'd in quarterfinal is worth further destroying the non-top8s of the Korean scence. | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Omg herO was due for the PartinG Award if he hit the ro16 this season, something I thought would never be repeated again fucking ouch. That's worse than Leenock and SuNo missing the NesTea Award by 1 season. | ||
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Kafka777
361 Posts
Code A really would be great. Foreigners getting into Code S would be a much higher accomplishment and the scene would get more competetive again Perhaps next year GSL vs the World (96k $ prizemoney) could be cancelled. 32k $ prizemoney per season would be enough. 32 players in 8-player round robin groups, top 3 of each group (or top 12 if antother format) advances to code S. 25th-32nd of code S goes down to code A, 17th-24th of Code S has to fight in relegation matches - top 4 stays in code S, the rest goes to code A of next season. Only those 4 players are seeded into next code A - the other 28 spots have to be filled via qualifiers. Even the costs of the event shouldn't be higher for such a code A. You'd need 4 days (like GSL vs World), perhaps one additional day for relegation matches It would be even better to move Code S and Code A for that matter to Europe. We will see how good Koreans will be in 2-3 years vs foreigners. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On March 29 2018 02:27 10dla wrote: Why is it cool that foreigner take gsl spots off struggling koreans? What the hell is wrong with all of you, whats not cool with foreigners winning GSL code S spots? You all act as if the spots where won in a raffle, Sortof got first spot in his bracket defeating unknown korean, Creator and eMotion. Elazer got his spot defeating PartinG and Hurricane. Zanster went through Salvation and Ragnarok. Scarlett went through TY and Bunny to take first spot. All of the above are high level korean pros (even though PartinGs form is unknown), its not like they got through based on bracket luck. Almost no foreigner faced other foreigners, they took their spots fair and square and that is really cool to see. I hate the WCS system where koreans are locked into korea but don't blame that on the foreigners that are kicking ass. Its quite simple really, the best players should qualify, I believe that was the spirit of GSL and I also believed that was the reason you korean pro fans loved it so much. Half the fanbase cried that it was unfair when koreans went abroad and stole the money from the foreigner pros, the other half argued its fair the best players should go to the tournaments and earn the money. These korean pro fans that wanted them to be able to go any tournament is now crying that its unfair that foreigners are allowed to go to korea and win money if they are better than the koreans? Its like a bad tv show, the ultimate hypocrites. User was warned for this post | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On March 29 2018 07:33 Shuffleblade wrote: What the hell is wrong with all of you, whats not cool with foreigners winning GSL code S spots? You all act as if the spots where won in a raffle, Sortof got first spot in his bracket defeating unknown korean, Creator and eMotion. Elazer got his spot defeating PartinG and Hurricane. Zanster went through Salvation and Ragnarok. Scarlett went through TY and Bunny to take first spot. All of the above are high level korean pros (even though PartinGs form is unknown), its not like they got through based on bracket luck. Almost no foreigner faced other foreigners, they took their spots fair and square and that is really cool to see. I hate the WCS system where koreans are locked into korea but don't blame that on the foreigners that are kicking ass. Its quite simple really, the best players should qualify, I believe that was the spirit of GSL and I also believed that was the reason you korean pro fans loved it so much. Half the fanbase cried that it was unfair when koreans went abroad and stole the money from the foreigner pros, the other half argued its fair the best players should go to the tournaments and earn the money. These korean pro fans that wanted them to be able to go any tournament is now crying that its unfair that foreigners are allowed to go to korea and win money if they are better than the koreans? Its like a bad tv show, the ultimate hypocrites. You're missing the point. Foreigners have their own special tournaments that koreans aren't allowed to compete in. Yet they're also allowed to play in the korean tournaments and earn money there as well. Which is blatently unfair to the koreans as it's their primary source of competition. Koreans previously going to foreigner tournaments and "stealing money" wasn't at all the same thing. There's no hypocrisy there because region locking didn't exist during this time. If foreigners wanted to play in korea they could, in fact some of them did. During this time both koreans and foreigners could play anywhere. If you agree that the best players should be the ones who qualify, then that same mentality should apply to the WCS events where koreans aren't allowed into. | ||
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