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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 12 2017 19:30 GMT
#81
On October 13 2017 04:28 RCCar wrote:
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (Z)Rogue
3. (Z)Dark
4. (Z)soO
5. (P)Stats
6. (P)herO
7. (T)TY
8. (T)GuMiho
9. (P)Neeb
10. (Z)TRUE
11. (Z)Serral
12. (Z)Nerchio
13. (Z)Elazer
14. (T)MajOr
15. (T)Kelazhur


You forgot Snute.
alukarD
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-12 20:29:22
October 12 2017 20:17 GMT
#82
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (Z)soO
3. (P)Stats
4. (P)Neeb
5. (P)herO
6. (Z)Rogue
7. (Z)Dark
8. (T)TY
9. (Z)Serral
10. (T)GuMiho
11. (Z)Snute
12. (Z)Nerchio
13. (T)MajOr
14. (Z)Elazer
15. (Z)TRUE
16. (T)Kelazhur

Foreigners fighting!!
Die Trying
Edowyth
Profile Joined October 2010
United States183 Posts
October 12 2017 22:07 GMT
#83
On October 12 2017 12:23 Tesarul wrote:
I think the goal is just to make a Community Power Rank, it is not a contest to predict BlizzCon results.


... aaaaand I'm retarded. Thanks for the correction. Carry on.
"Q. How do I check a valid [e-]mail address? A. You can't, at least, not in real time. Bummer, eh?" /r/programming
Of course, you could just send them a validation email.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
October 12 2017 22:19 GMT
#84
Kelazhur gonna prove everyone wrong.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-12 23:22:52
October 12 2017 23:22 GMT
#85
On October 13 2017 04:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2017 03:38 Elentos wrote:
On October 12 2017 07:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On October 12 2017 06:52 pvsnp wrote:
On October 12 2017 06:04 Z3nith wrote:
TY, Rogue, and INnoVation (by far) are the players that have dominated the "best player in the world" conversation for 2017.


Alright, Inno I get, but to say TY and Rogue have dominated is just wrong. Stats has had a better year than either of them.

I'm not talking about who is actually the best. I'm talking about who the community has been claiming is the best. There is a difference.

Stats has a pretty legitimate claim for being the best player of 2017. His consistency across the whole year has been incredible. Inno probably has the best claim simply because he's won so many more trophies than everyone else, but whereas people loved to talk about TY at the beginning of the year and love to talk about Rogue now, Stats barely gets any attention despite having a better claim than either of them.

Hype isn't always tied to skill. Inno has tons of hype and skill, ByuN has more hype than skill, and Stats has more skill than hype.


TY is as overhyped as ByuN imo. He's been unimpressive (certainly not bad by any means but nothing exceptional) in the last six months yet people still consider him one of the very best. He's been on a slow upswing though, so maybe he do well at Blizzcon.

Don't you think 6 months is a bit much? Who can really say of themselves they were impressive for the entirety of the last 6 months? herO had 3 good tournaments and many weak performances in-between over 6 months. GuMiho hasn't had a single decent offline run since he won GSL. TY had his usual Ro8s in GSL, a top 4 at IEM and 2nd at GSL vs the World, but also didn't qualify for the Super Tournament, etc.

I do think people tend to overhype players, and TY has been one of them this year certainly(probably in due part because Artosis loves him so much), but I also think that TY's position in the food chain hasn't actually varied much this year. Kind of like how Stats has been the best Protoss in the world practically all year, TY has been the 2nd best Korean Terran practically all year. And being the 2nd best Korean Terran puts you pretty far up the food chain.

Fun fact about Stats also, he's arguably the most consistent player of 2017, but if you just got his winrates since his Code S win, you'd think he's a B-teamer.

16. (T)Kelazhur
15. (Z)TRUE
14. (T)SpeCial
13. (Z)Nerchio
12. (Z)Snute
11. (Z)Elazer
10. (T)GuMiho
9. (Z)Serral
8. (P)Neeb
7. (Z)soO
6. (P)herO
5. (T)TY
4. (P)Stats
3. (Z)Dark
2. (Z)Rogue
1. (T)INnoVation


I'm saying that he hasn't been particularly impressive at any point over the last six months, not that he needs to be impressive over a six month period. Even his good runs are punctuated by losses where he looks hopeless. I don't think he's bad, just not the championship contender that people seem to think he is.


The same would be said about Stats and Innovation right before their recent titles though. They both were in the same bag as TY for the most part (massive wins earlier in the year, average to reasonably high finishes since). All of them have had embarassing losses (ST for example), but they also have lot of ro8/4/final appearances. By any standard they're clear championship contenders, along with Dark and Rogue.

Assuming you define a "championship contender" the same way, someone that wouldn't be a shock if they won the event. TY having beaten all of the top (8 minus herO?) in premier tournaments in the last 6 months puts him up there.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
October 13 2017 03:53 GMT
#86
The only real championship contenders are Rogue and herO the way they have been playing lately
My boy Ptak defeated two GSL champions!
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-13 11:57:54
October 13 2017 10:10 GMT
#87
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (Z)Dark
3. (P)herO
4. (P)Stats
5. (Z)Rogue
6. (Z)soO
7. (P)Neeb
8. (T)GuMiho
9. (T)TY
10. (Z)Serral
11. (Z)Elazer
12. (Z)TRUE
13. (Z)Nerchio
14. (T)MajOr
15. (Z)Snute
16. (T)Kelazhur

Edit: Thanks, not sure what happened, 3 zergs got lost.
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 13 2017 10:19 GMT
#88
On October 13 2017 19:10 papapanda wrote:
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (Z)Dark
3. (P)herO
4. (P)Stats
5. (Z)Rogue
6. (Z)soO
7. (P)Neeb
8. (T)GuMiho
9. (T)TY
13. (Z)Nerchio
14. (T)MajOr
15. (Z)Snute
16. (T)Kelazhur


So who's ranked 10-12?
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
October 13 2017 13:19 GMT
#89
1. (Z)Rogue
2. (P)herO
3. (T)INnoVation
4. (P)Stats
5. (P)Neeb
6. (T)GuMiho
7. (Z)Dark
8. (T)TY
9. (Z)soO
10. (Z)Serral
11. (Z)Nerchio
12. (Z)Elazer
13. (T)MajOr
14. (Z)Snute
15. (Z)TRUE
16. (T)Kelazhur
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28522 Posts
October 14 2017 10:06 GMT
#90
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (P)Stats
3. (Z)Dark
4. (Z)Rogue
5. (P)herO
6. (Z)soO
7. (T)TY
8. (T)GuMiho

9. (P)Neeb
10. (Z)Serral
11. (Z)Elazer
12. (Z)Snute
13. (Z)Nerchio
14. (Z)TRUE
15. (T)MajOr
16. (T)Kelazhur



I Protoss winner, could it be?
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
October 14 2017 12:56 GMT
#91
On October 14 2017 19:06 Penev wrote:
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (P)Stats
3. (Z)Dark
4. (Z)Rogue
5. (P)herO
6. (Z)soO
7. (T)TY
8. (T)GuMiho

9. (P)Neeb
10. (Z)Serral
11. (Z)Elazer
12. (Z)Snute
13. (Z)Nerchio
14. (Z)TRUE
15. (T)MajOr
16. (T)Kelazhur




same for me
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 15 2017 14:53 GMT
#92
1.(Z)Rogue
2. (T)INnoVation
3. (Z)Dark
4. (P)Stats
5.(P)herO
6.(T)TY
7.(P)Neeb
8.(Z)soO
9.(Z)Serral
10.(Z)Elazer
11. (T)GuMiho
12. (Z)Snute
13. (Z)Nerchio
14. (T)MajOr
15. (Z)TRUE
16. (T)Kelazhur
LiT'soLo
Profile Joined May 2017
1 Post
October 15 2017 16:34 GMT
#93
1)(Z)Rogue
2)(T)INnoVation
3) (T)TY
4)(P)Stats
5)(Z)soO
6)(Z)Dark
7)(P)herO
8)(T)GuMiho
9)(P)Neeb
10)(Z)Elazer
11)(Z)Serral
12)(T)MajOr
13)(T)Kelazhur
14)(Z)Snute
15)(Z)Nerchio
16)(Z)TRUE
Term
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany5 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-18 13:53:29
October 18 2017 13:51 GMT
#94
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (P)Stats
3. (Z)Rogue
4. (T)TY
5. (P)herO
6. (Z)Dark
7. (Z)soO
8. (T)GuMiho
9. (P)Neeb
10. (Z)Serral
11. (T)MajOr
12. (Z)Nerchio
13. (Z)Elazer
14. (T)Kelazhur
15. (Z)Snute
16. (Z)TRUE

Feels bad to put some players in the lower spots, but everybody on that list is just so good :o
Time flies. It really does..
EndlessViolence
Profile Joined January 2011
115 Posts
October 19 2017 20:08 GMT
#95
1.(P)herO
2.(Z)Rogue
3.(Z)Dark
4.(P)Stats
5.(T)INnoVation
6.(T)TY
7.(P)Neeb
8.(Z)Serral
9.(Z)soO
10.(T)GuMiho
11.(Z)Elazer
12.(Z)Snute
13.(T)MajOr
14.(Z)Nerchio
15.(Z)TRUE
16.(T)Kelazhur

The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-22 22:29:20
October 22 2017 22:28 GMT
#96
Don't forget about this!
TL's official PR/Road to Blizzcon series is approaching the end as well, let's get a few more votes in till then!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
October 22 2017 22:36 GMT
#97
1. (T)INnoVation
2. (Z)Rogue
3. (P)Stats
4. (Z)soO
5. (Z)Dark
6. (P)herO
7. (T)GuMiho
8. (T)TY
9. (P)Neeb
10. (Z)Snute
11. (Z)Serral
12. (Z)Elazer
13. (T)MajOr
14. (Z)Nerchio
15. (Z)TRUE
16. (T)Kelazhur
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
October 23 2017 06:59 GMT
#98
Here is my completely fair and unbiased ranking:

(Z)soO
(T)INnoVation
(Z)Rogue
(P)Stats
(Z)Dark
(T)TY
(P)herO
(T)GuMiho
(P)Neeb
(Z)Elazer
(Z)Nerchio
(Z)Serral
(Z)Snute
(T)MajOr
(Z)TRUE
(T)Kelazhur
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
October 23 2017 10:05 GMT
#99
Well, to be honest :

1. (P)Stats
2. (T)INnoVation
3. (Z)Dark
4. (Z)Rogue
5. (P)herO
6. (T)TY
7. (Z)soO
8. (T)GuMiho

12. (P)Neeb

16. (Z)Serral
16. (T)MajOr
16. (Z)Snute
16. (Z)Elazer
16. (Z)TRUE
16. (Z)Nerchio
16. (T)Kelazhur
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 19:21:23
October 24 2017 19:19 GMT
#100
Put this off for so long I forgot about it entirely until The_Red_Viper mentioned it in the Rogue article.

1. (T)INnoVation
2. (Z)Rogue
3. (Z)Dark
4. (P)herO
5. (P)Stats
6. (T)TY
7. (Z)soO
8. (P)Neeb
9. (Z)Serral
10. (T)GuMiho
11. (Z)Elazer
12. (Z)Snute
13. (T)MajOr
14. (Z)Nerchio
15. (T)Kelazhur
16. (Z)TRUE
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