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#22
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7. (Z)Serral
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Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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October 11 2017 18:43 GMT
#23
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October 11 2017 18:51 GMT
#24
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(T)TY
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(T)GuMiho
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(T)Kelazhur
(Z)TRUE
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Last Edited: 2017-10-18 19:36:19
October 11 2017 18:59 GMT
#25
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#26
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United States13974 Posts
October 11 2017 19:05 GMT
#27
all these people with inno > stats
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Germany162 Posts
October 11 2017 19:06 GMT
#28
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Last Edited: 2017-10-11 19:27:20
October 11 2017 19:27 GMT
#29
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12. (Z)Snute
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Last Edited: 2017-10-12 16:04:19
October 11 2017 19:29 GMT
#30
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11. (Z)Elazer
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1. (Z)Rogue
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 19:49:44
October 11 2017 19:43 GMT
#31
On October 12 2017 04:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
all these people with inno > stats

Inno is the easy pick for #1 though. Only Rogue might be better atm. Stats dropping out in the first round of the Super Tournament, followed by herO's amazing run, shifted the "best Protoss" spotlight away from him.

Also Stats is kinda just forgettable, his storyline/hype train is just inferior to those of Rogue (only 2017 KR Zerg champion, first peak, etc) and Inno (Terran hope, GOAT, etc).


I will get around to posting my list here, with some justification, eventually. Also, I linked this thread on r/starcraft.
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Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1867 Posts
October 11 2017 20:05 GMT
#32
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Topher_Doll
Profile Joined August 2015
United States76 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 20:07:54
October 11 2017 20:06 GMT
#33
(P)Stats
(T)INnoVation
(Z)Dark
(Z)Rogue
(P)herO
(Z)soO
(T)TY
(P)Neeb
(T)GuMiho
(Z)Elazer
(Z)Nerchio
(Z)Serral
(Z)Snute
(T)Kelazhur
(Z)TRUE
(T)MajOr
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
October 11 2017 20:07 GMT
#34
On October 12 2017 05:05 mizenhauer wrote:
1. (Z)soO
2. Durn
3. Char
4. ArtyK
5. Olli
6. Ej
7. Mizenhauer
8. Poopi
9. Elentos
10. Inflicted
11. Kashim
12. Seeker
13. Viper
14. Cricketer
15. Railgan
16. Luolis

Wow 14 but elentos is 9? Also Ej should be 2nd
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
October 11 2017 20:08 GMT
#35
On October 12 2017 04:43 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2017 04:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
all these people with inno > stats

Inno is the easy pick for #1 though. Only Rogue might be better atm. Stats dropping out in the first round of the Super Tournament, followed by herO's amazing run, shifted the "best Protoss" spotlight away from him.

Also Stats is kinda just forgettable, his storyline/hype train is just inferior to those of Rogue (only 2017 KR Zerg champion, first peak, etc) and Inno (Terran hope, GOAT, etc).


I will get around to posting my list here, with some justification, eventually. Also, I linked this thread on r/starcraft.

Top 4 in last 12/14 premiers in Korea. Best and most consistant player of legacy with the highest peak. Super forgettable.
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SnafuZerg
Profile Joined April 2016
17 Posts
October 11 2017 20:08 GMT
#36
1. (Z)Rogue
2. (T)INnoVation
3. (P)herO
4. (Z)Dark
5. (P)Stats
6. (T)TY
7. (T)GuMiho
8. (Z)soO
9. (P)Neeb
10. (Z)Serral
11. (Z)Snute
12. (Z)Elazer
13. (Z)Nerchio
14. (T)Kelazhur
15. (Z)TRUE
16. (T)MajOr
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 20:27:17
October 11 2017 20:14 GMT
#37
On October 12 2017 05:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2017 04:43 pvsnp wrote:
On October 12 2017 04:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
all these people with inno > stats

Inno is the easy pick for #1 though. Only Rogue might be better atm. Stats dropping out in the first round of the Super Tournament, followed by herO's amazing run, shifted the "best Protoss" spotlight away from him.

Also Stats is kinda just forgettable, his storyline/hype train is just inferior to those of Rogue (only 2017 KR Zerg champion, first peak, etc) and Inno (Terran hope, GOAT, etc).


I will get around to posting my list here, with some justification, eventually. Also, I linked this thread on r/starcraft.

Top 4 in last 12/14 premiers in Korea. Best and most consistant player of legacy with the highest peak. Super forgettable.

Exactly.

All three of those statements are true (second is very arguable though). Call it unfair if you like, but Stats quite simply doesn't get the attention/hype that some other players do, despite putting up great results.

Stats is consistent, but Inno definitely peaked higher than he did. Stats never made an insane run like Inno did at GSL vs the World, nor did he win multiple tournaments in quick succession like Inno did with GSL Season 3 a month later. "Best" is an incredibly subjective term, but assuming you meant "most skilled" then Stats only occupied that position for a few weeks at best, just after winning GSL Season 1. TY, Rogue, and INnoVation (by far) are the players that have dominated the "best player in the world" conversation for 2017.

Whatever the reason, Stats stands in the shadows while his peers take the glory.
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 20:32:31
October 11 2017 20:31 GMT
#38
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2. (Z) (Z)Dark
3. (P) (P)Stats
4. (Z) (Z)Rogue
5. (T) (T)TY
6. (P) (P)herO
7. (P) (P)Neeb
8. (Z) (Z)Serral
9. (Z) (Z)soO
10. (T) (T)GuMiho
11. (Z) (Z)Nerchio
12. (Z) (Z)Elazer
13. (T) (T)MajOr
14. (Z) (Z)TRUE
15. (Z) (Z)Snute
16. (T) (T)Kelazhur
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 11 2017 20:38 GMT
#39
On October 12 2017 05:14 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2017 05:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 12 2017 04:43 pvsnp wrote:
On October 12 2017 04:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
all these people with inno > stats

Inno is the easy pick for #1 though. Only Rogue might be better atm. Stats dropping out in the first round of the Super Tournament, followed by herO's amazing run, shifted the "best Protoss" spotlight away from him.

Also Stats is kinda just forgettable, his storyline/hype train is just inferior to those of Rogue (only 2017 KR Zerg champion, first peak, etc) and Inno (Terran hope, GOAT, etc).


I will get around to posting my list here, with some justification, eventually. Also, I linked this thread on r/starcraft.

Top 4 in last 12/14 premiers in Korea. Best and most consistant player of legacy with the highest peak. Super forgettable.

Exactly.

All three of those statements are true (second is very arguable though). Call it unfair if you like, but Stats quite simply doesn't get the attention/hype that some other players do, despite putting up great results.

Stats is consistent, but Inno definitely peaked higher than he did. Stats never made an insane run like Inno did at GSL vs the World, nor did he win multiple tournaments in quick succession like Inno did with GSL Season 3 a month later. "Best" is an incredibly subjective term, but assuming you meant "most skilled" then Stats only occupied that position for a few weeks at best, just after winning GSL Season 1. TY, Rogue, and INnoVation (by far) are the players that have dominated the "best player in the world" conversation for 2017.

Whatever the reason, Stats stands in the shadows while his peers take the glory.


Being incredibly consistent and good over the entire year doesn't mean that you should do well at that a power rank considering the current moment though.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-11 20:46:16
October 11 2017 20:45 GMT
#40
On October 12 2017 05:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2017 05:14 pvsnp wrote:
On October 12 2017 05:08 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 12 2017 04:43 pvsnp wrote:
On October 12 2017 04:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
all these people with inno > stats

Inno is the easy pick for #1 though. Only Rogue might be better atm. Stats dropping out in the first round of the Super Tournament, followed by herO's amazing run, shifted the "best Protoss" spotlight away from him.

Also Stats is kinda just forgettable, his storyline/hype train is just inferior to those of Rogue (only 2017 KR Zerg champion, first peak, etc) and Inno (Terran hope, GOAT, etc).


I will get around to posting my list here, with some justification, eventually. Also, I linked this thread on r/starcraft.

Top 4 in last 12/14 premiers in Korea. Best and most consistant player of legacy with the highest peak. Super forgettable.

Exactly.

All three of those statements are true (second is very arguable though). Call it unfair if you like, but Stats quite simply doesn't get the attention/hype that some other players do, despite putting up great results.

Stats is consistent, but Inno definitely peaked higher than he did. Stats never made an insane run like Inno did at GSL vs the World, nor did he win multiple tournaments in quick succession like Inno did with GSL Season 3 a month later. "Best" is an incredibly subjective term, but assuming you meant "most skilled" then Stats only occupied that position for a few weeks at best, just after winning GSL Season 1. TY, Rogue, and INnoVation (by far) are the players that have dominated the "best player in the world" conversation for 2017.

Whatever the reason, Stats stands in the shadows while his peers take the glory.


Being incredibly consistent and good over the entire year doesn't mean that you should do well at that a power rank considering the current moment though.

Yep, I was arguing against somebody that said Stats > Inno. As of right now, Inno > Stats for sure. Rogue is the only guy that might displace Inno at #1 atm.
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