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hexhaven
Finland931 Posts
On August 01 2017 07:50 highsis wrote: How long has it been since the last one? Been years, I think. Please don't drop this again. I really enjoy SC2 PR. There was one for IEM Katowice. | ||
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Kafka777
361 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
On August 01 2017 01:04 Cricketer12 wrote: Stats isn't number 1. Fake list Yep. Inno is the only case imo at least to challenge Stats there, but Stats at #9 is a slap to his face. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On August 01 2017 09:02 yoshi245 wrote: Yep. Inno is the only case imo at least to challenge Stats there, but Stats at #9 is a slap to his face. Well Stats did lose to iA, which doesn't exactly help his case for being #1. It's also been quite awhile since Stats won GSL, while players like herO/Rogue/Inno have won more recently. | ||
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
On August 01 2017 07:17 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: RIP Zest Would be interesting to see foreigner 6-10. It's quite hard to determine I think. Would iAsonu make it after his sick IEM performance? I'd personally have it at 6. Nerchio 7. TRUE 8. Kelazhur 9. uThermal 10. PtitDrogo ShoWTimE vs PtitDrogo is super debatable - really, the entire top 10 is, the top 5 is much more concrete - but IMO they had similar HSC success, PtitDrogo did better at Valencia due to ShoWTimE failing out really earlier in qualifiers, and PtitDrogo had a nice Jonkoping run. You have to go back to Austin to find a major tournament ShoWTimE significantly did better than Drogo at, and that's quite a while ago, but maybe if I analyzed the online stuff more I'd come to a different conclusion. iAsonu doesn't get a top 10 spot because he didn't play at Valencia and his Jonkoping performance was poor, but he'd probably show up on the top 15. MaSa, Scarlett and Harstem would fill out my top 15 probably. Also, am I missing something about the Kelazhur hype? I don't get why he's being argued for top 5; he hasn't made a finals like the top 3, he's been significantly outperformed by SpeCial domestically, and he got 3-0'd by Snute last tournament. Sure he's a crazy talented player, but I don't think his results are top 5 worthy. It's not like his online results are crazy either, but maybe other people are seeing something I'm not. | ||
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Mahanaim
Korea (South)1002 Posts
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yht9657
1810 Posts
And ByuN ranked this high simply because he showed up at HSC (any Korean player on this list could have made to the finals) and kept abusing reapers to cheese out the better player Soo is even more disturbing. He got trashed by Stats at GSL and he isn't in SSL premier at all, so HSC and IEM Shanghai over the Starleagues? | ||
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StabiloBoss20
313 Posts
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2215 Posts
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TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On August 01 2017 10:44 Soularion wrote: I'd personally have it at 6. Nerchio 7. TRUE 8. Kelazhur 9. uThermal 10. PtitDrogo ShoWTimE vs PtitDrogo is super debatable - really, the entire top 10 is, the top 5 is much more concrete - but IMO they had similar HSC success, PtitDrogo did better at Valencia due to ShoWTimE failing out really earlier in qualifiers, and PtitDrogo had a nice Jonkoping run. You have to go back to Austin to find a major tournament ShoWTimE significantly did better than Drogo at, and that's quite a while ago, but maybe if I analyzed the online stuff more I'd come to a different conclusion. iAsonu doesn't get a top 10 spot because he didn't play at Valencia and his Jonkoping performance was poor, but he'd probably show up on the top 15. MaSa, Scarlett and Harstem would fill out my top 15 probably. Also, am I missing something about the Kelazhur hype? I don't get why he's being argued for top 5; he hasn't made a finals like the top 3, he's been significantly outperformed by SpeCial domestically, and he got 3-0'd by Snute last tournament. Sure he's a crazy talented player, but I don't think his results are top 5 worthy. It's not like his online results are crazy either, but maybe other people are seeing something I'm not. TRUE as foreigner? | ||
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
For the World, Neeb no 1 Couldn't give any more shits about the rest, cuz they just ain't No 1 | ||
Olli
Austria24417 Posts
It's a WCS ranking, not limited to non-Koreans! | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
Gumiho though. Wow. Given that I stopped following the scene, that's a surprise. | ||
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njoe
Sweden26 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 01 2017 05:16 Elentos wrote: The objective reason is that TY has barely played anything in the past few months and so there's practically nothing to judge his 'Power' by. And ByuN has? I suppose the list is based of online performances? Because ByuNs best result all year is a ro4 at IEM, which TY also did (along with a year of better results than Byun) | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
On August 02 2017 00:42 Fango wrote: And ByuN has? Because ByuNs best result all year is a ro4 at IEM, which TY also did (along with a year of better results than Byun) Yes. Almost 5 times as many tournament games if we include online (and even offline only, it's more than twice as many). And what their best result across the whole year is doesn't matter when judging players by current form. | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On August 02 2017 01:37 Elentos wrote: Yes. Almost 5 times as many tournament games if we include online (and even offline only, it's more than twice as many). And what their best result across the whole year is doesn't matter when judging players by current form. Seriously, how many times have we seen someone win a tournament only to get crushed in groups the next time they play 3 weeks later? It's always been this way. Doesn't matter what you did 3 or 6 months ago. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On August 02 2017 00:11 boxerfred wrote: Innovation #1 <3 Gumiho though. Wow. Given that I stopped following the scene, that's a surprise. Holy shit you are back | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
On August 02 2017 01:39 207aicila wrote: Seriously, how many times have we seen someone win a tournament only to get crushed in groups the next time they play 3 weeks later? It's always been this way. Doesn't matter what you did 3 or 6 months ago. Right, so when Gumiho won GSL then started losing to "lesser" players at IEM and HSC shortly after, why is he on here? Results 3 or 6 months ago matter when a player has been consistant for that time. TY has his WeSG/IEM win, consecutive GSL playoffs, and then a ro4 at IEM. To me, that shows he's stronger than guys like ByuN that don't have any exceptional results but play more often If you really wanna say TY hasn't won a tournament in 4-5 months and so doesn't deserve a spot then fine. But then why is Solar on the list? All he has in an SSL final from last season. Why is Dark on here when he's been going downhill for months? The only justification is that Solar and Dark are in SSL (and TY isn't), which they aren't even doing that well in | ||
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