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On July 13 2017 22:29 Waxangel wrote:
I need an NHL fan to sum up the recent joke-vote controversy in the all-star game, which somehow ended up actually getting popular support
John Scott was one of the worst players in the NHL. A big slow dime-a-dozen "tough guy" defenseman, the kind of guy who signs one year contracts with usually low ranked teams just to fill in their rosters and maybe play low minutes in 1/4 of their games. The NHL did a fan vote to decide a player for the all star game, the captain no less, and it somehow started picking up mainstream attention that some people were troll voting John Scott, which made a lot more people vote, and then his team traded him to try and block his participation, which made EVERYONE vote for John Scott till the NHL finally cracked and let him play.
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On July 13 2017 19:56 jalstar wrote:
Don't know why people are upset about votes... That's generally how all-star games work. :/
Its a $100K tournament. If it was just a showmatch with a small or non existent prize pool it wouldn't be so bad. The fact that its one of the biggest tournaments of the year (money wise) means it should have proper seeding/qualification.
There are players performing a lot better than byun or sos that haven't even got a shot at getting in. Plus, it's one of the only time we get to see foreigners vs Koreans, I want to see the best, not the ones reddit likes the most.
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On July 14 2017 01:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 22:29 Waxangel wrote:
I need an NHL fan to sum up the recent joke-vote controversy in the all-star game, which somehow ended up actually getting popular support John Scott was one of the worst players in the NHL. A big slow dime-a-dozen "tough guy" defenseman, the kind of guy who signs one year contracts with usually low ranked teams just to fill in their rosters and maybe play low minutes in 1/4 of their games. The NHL did a fan vote to decide a player for the all star game, the captain no less, and it somehow started picking up mainstream attention that some people were troll voting John Scott, which made a lot more people vote, and then his team traded him to try and block his participation, which made EVERYONE vote for John Scott till the NHL finally cracked and let him play.
Maybe that's more like a write-in vote for Avilo than a vote for Has
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People aren't voting Has a a joke. They legit want to see his style vs top Koreans.
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On July 14 2017 01:54 Fango wrote:
People aren't voting Has a a joke. They legit want to see his style vs top Koreans.
believe me, I know
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GSL vs all stars and the GSL champion is not there? I understand that there was a criteria for selection, but when those criteria exclude the fucking GSL Champion from the GSL team, then there is something wrong with the reasoning.
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I wonder if they'll pit a korean vs a foreigner for all ro16 matches... if so then RIP foreigners....
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On July 14 2017 01:37 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 19:56 jalstar wrote:
Don't know why people are upset about votes... That's generally how all-star games work. :/ Its a $100K tournament. If it was just a showmatch with a small or non existent prize pool it wouldn't be so bad. The fact that its one of the biggest tournaments of the year (money wise) means it should have proper seeding/qualification. There are players performing a lot better than byun or sos that haven't even got a shot at getting in. Plus, it's one of the only time we get to see foreigners vs Koreans, I want to see the best, not the ones reddit likes the most.
There are countless tournaments per year that require players to qualify. There's nothing wrong with having this one tournament where players get voted in.
If that means more popular players get a shot over better players - then so be it. Being popular should count for something.
After all competition is meant to entertain spectators and popular players draw more interest to the tournament which is good viewer-wise.
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On July 14 2017 02:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
I wonder if they'll pit a korean vs a foreigner for all ro16 matches... if so then RIP foreigners....
In the german translation they say they do...
Not sure who fucked up there.
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On July 14 2017 03:50 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 02:18 Clazziquai10 wrote:
I wonder if they'll pit a korean vs a foreigner for all ro16 matches... if so then RIP foreigners.... In the german translation they say they do... Not sure who fucked up there.
I definitely remember at some point reading in the US version or some official post or something that it's GSL vs The World in every Ro16 match.
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On July 14 2017 01:50 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 01:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On July 13 2017 22:29 Waxangel wrote:
I need an NHL fan to sum up the recent joke-vote controversy in the all-star game, which somehow ended up actually getting popular support John Scott was one of the worst players in the NHL. A big slow dime-a-dozen "tough guy" defenseman, the kind of guy who signs one year contracts with usually low ranked teams just to fill in their rosters and maybe play low minutes in 1/4 of their games. The NHL did a fan vote to decide a player for the all star game, the captain no less, and it somehow started picking up mainstream attention that some people were troll voting John Scott, which made a lot more people vote, and then his team traded him to try and block his participation, which made EVERYONE vote for John Scott till the NHL finally cracked and let him play. Maybe that's more like a write-in vote for Avilo than a vote for Has
Nah John Scott ended up scoring two goals. So Has sounds pretty accurate.
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On July 14 2017 04:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 01:50 Waxangel wrote:On July 14 2017 01:24 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On July 13 2017 22:29 Waxangel wrote:
I need an NHL fan to sum up the recent joke-vote controversy in the all-star game, which somehow ended up actually getting popular support John Scott was one of the worst players in the NHL. A big slow dime-a-dozen "tough guy" defenseman, the kind of guy who signs one year contracts with usually low ranked teams just to fill in their rosters and maybe play low minutes in 1/4 of their games. The NHL did a fan vote to decide a player for the all star game, the captain no less, and it somehow started picking up mainstream attention that some people were troll voting John Scott, which made a lot more people vote, and then his team traded him to try and block his participation, which made EVERYONE vote for John Scott till the NHL finally cracked and let him play. Maybe that's more like a write-in vote for Avilo than a vote for Has Nah John Scott ended up scoring two goals. So Has sounds pretty accurate.
He played his heart out in that All Star game, got voted MVP
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Where dat snitch at?36920 Posts
I can't vote. No matter what I click, it doesn't go through. Anyone else?
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On July 14 2017 04:29 Seeker wrote:
I can't vote. No matter what I click, it doesn't go through. Anyone else?
nothing happens when i click, but when i refresh it shows that i have voted
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On July 14 2017 03:49 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 01:37 Fango wrote:On July 13 2017 19:56 jalstar wrote:
Don't know why people are upset about votes... That's generally how all-star games work. :/ Its a $100K tournament. If it was just a showmatch with a small or non existent prize pool it wouldn't be so bad. The fact that its one of the biggest tournaments of the year (money wise) means it should have proper seeding/qualification. There are players performing a lot better than byun or sos that haven't even got a shot at getting in. Plus, it's one of the only time we get to see foreigners vs Koreans, I want to see the best, not the ones reddit likes the most. There are countless tournaments per year that require players to qualify. There's nothing wrong with having this one tournament where players get voted in. If that means more popular players get a shot over better players - then so be it. Being popular should count for something. After all competition is meant to entertain spectators and popular players draw more interest to the tournament which is good viewer-wise.
The only time a fanvote tournament is acceptable is when it's purely for show, not for serious money (it's a $100K prize pool ffs, probably $35K for first place). This is the biggest non-GSL tournament in korea we've had for years.... All players should have an equal chance. Even doing it purely of WCS points would be alright, because at least they've earnt it via performance.
You cannot deny that aLive and gumiho have outdone themselves by a mile this year, meanwhile ByuN's done nothing impressive and he's the one that gets a shot. Because reddit is obsessed with him.
And btw being popular already counts for something, it gets you better streaming income and more potential sponsorship/team support.
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With 100K on the line, this ridiculous voting place is just stupid. It kind of cheapens the SC2 tournament into some sort of popularity contest when it is all about skills and competition. I'm not sure who comes up with this childish idea.
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Okay, if you're gonna have the thing be a popularity contest, which is by no means optimal, at least make sure the polls and the site they're on work properly. That's the least Blizzard should do.
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The idea of these invites is very silly. Now top 4 of WCS may change after Valencia, why didn't they wait 3 more days with invites? We may have a new wcs champ who is not invited. We will get Korea vs World without best Koreans and best WCS players because someone decided to invite Chinese players and make a popularity test. This is so stupid that its funny. Just kill the game and waste money make all fans upset, buff reapers.
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On July 14 2017 05:37 Kafka777 wrote:
The idea of these invites is very silly. Now top 4 of WCS may change after Valencia, why didn't they wait 3 more days with invites? We may have a new wcs champ who is not invited. We will get Korea vs World without best Koreans and best WCS players because someone decided to invite Chinese players and make a popularity test. This is so stupid that its funny. Just kill the game and waste money make all fans upset, buff reapers.
Probably because it's good to have everything organized and scheduled in advance? Flights and hotels booked, etc. They didn't count season 3 for the Korean invites either, at least it's consistent in that regard.
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Probably because it's good to have everything organized and scheduled in advance? Flights and hotels booked, etc. They didn't count season 3 for the Korean invites either, at least it's consistent in that regard.
They still have enough time if they made a vote last 7 days and then organize flights. Even though its difficult or impossible to vote from EU right now so the vote is already "rigged".
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