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gab12
Profile Joined June 2016
Poland147 Posts
December 09 2016 19:42 GMT
#141
Lastride, u are right, Guys its our time now to show how much we love sc2 to show blizz that they should put more attention into sc2, koreans too :D
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 09 2016 19:46 GMT
#142
This isn't too bad.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 09 2016 19:46 GMT
#143
On December 10 2016 04:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
anyone know how many War Chests will be available for purchase between now and BlizzCon 2017? 3? 4? some other #?

They're planning on doing two seasons of War Chests per year, so basically two per year. Since next year will be the first time that they're doing it and that it's still in active development, it's possible that we may only get one next year and two every year after.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 09 2016 19:47 GMT
#144
On December 10 2016 02:35 opisska wrote:
I get that many people will not like the specifics, but can someone be really disappointed by this? I mean, I was honestly expecting the "no WCS in 2017" news to pop up any time soon, so the very existence of WCS 2017 with actual global finals and a dozen tournaments through they year, is strictly positive news to me and a cause for celebration.

I was feeling the same way
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halomonian
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil255 Posts
December 09 2016 19:47 GMT
#145
On December 10 2016 04:39 aQuaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 04:37 Blargh wrote:
I like how people are negative when Blizzard is already doing this out of kindness, cause I can guarantee you, they are not making ANY profit from this. This is all charity.

So, even though Korea isn't in super great health, it's also not really dead. That's a lot of money in tournaments. It's not CS:GO levels, but it's pretty generous.

I mean it's pretty hard to compete financially with a scene that flourished because of illegal (super shady at least, if not just illegal) practices like gambling. Not saying that CS:GO is a bad game of course, on the contrary.



well, if you think about it, gambling was the rise and fall of Starcraft in both incarnations, be it with ma jae yoon's circle of doom or life/prime thrown games.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
December 09 2016 19:48 GMT
#146
On December 10 2016 04:12 HsDLTitich wrote:
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On December 10 2016 03:45 digmouse wrote:
IEM doesn't start their season till about July, and if past seasons are any indication the first stop will be in Asia, specifically China which SC2 do have a sizable audience.

But yeah, the amount of tournaments announced here, does not strike any confidence at all.


Yeah so far this seems a WCS where W stands for "Western", I'd like to see at least a couple of tournaments in China/Taiwan/SEA...

The NetEase tournaments unfortunately never get exposure/support on these type of announcements.
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CrayonSc2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States267 Posts
December 09 2016 19:50 GMT
#147
The real question is, will they have a lan open bracket for the dreamhacks. Cause 2016 it was 50/50.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
December 09 2016 19:58 GMT
#148
On December 10 2016 04:47 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 02:35 opisska wrote:
I get that many people will not like the specifics, but can someone be really disappointed by this? I mean, I was honestly expecting the "no WCS in 2017" news to pop up any time soon, so the very existence of WCS 2017 with actual global finals and a dozen tournaments through they year, is strictly positive news to me and a cause for celebration.

I was feeling the same way


My beef with this new system is that there 4 WCS tournaments for 4 direct seeds to blizzcon and another 4 players will go there on WCS points from those 4 tournaments alone as far as I understand. This year there were 10 WCS tournaments where players fought for point up until the very last to qualify for blizzcon. 10 tournaments is a circuit. 4 tournaments is basically some grand slam tournaments without the circuit. Please tell me I have misunderstood something here.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 09 2016 20:04 GMT
#149
On December 10 2016 04:58 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 04:47 Shellshock wrote:
On December 10 2016 02:35 opisska wrote:
I get that many people will not like the specifics, but can someone be really disappointed by this? I mean, I was honestly expecting the "no WCS in 2017" news to pop up any time soon, so the very existence of WCS 2017 with actual global finals and a dozen tournaments through they year, is strictly positive news to me and a cause for celebration.

I was feeling the same way


My beef with this new system is that there 4 WCS tournaments for 4 direct seeds to blizzcon and another 4 players will go there on WCS points from those 4 tournaments alone as far as I understand. This year there were 10 WCS tournaments where players fought for point up until the very last to qualify for blizzcon. 10 tournaments is a circuit. 4 tournaments is basically some grand slam tournaments without the circuit. Please tell me I have misunderstood something here.


WCS points can also be derived from the Challenger events, but yeah basically.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 09 2016 20:04 GMT
#150
I hope this isn't a final list of all tournaments that qualify for WCS points. IEM seems absent aside from IEM Katowice and IEM Korea. I hope this doesn't mean that IEM can't have one or two more tournaments that qualify for WCS points.
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beerbuddha
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada12 Posts
December 09 2016 20:06 GMT
#151
Because Im from Montreal - advantage for me to have WCS again at DH.

Overall - I like it a lot.

I work early - so I don't get a chance to see GSL anymore and sometimes catching them afterwards might escape me.
Setting all the DH to be sc2 driven events for WCS Circuit is a nice plus. Its not as good as the hype era of IPL, MLG, NASL, etc but at least you get to attend a Lan here and there for the region you are closest. You can plan a nice drive/flight etc if the dates are given a head.

War Chest being part of the Prize pool is a nice incentive but i think thats more in tune to beef up HOTS rather to compete against prizes of LoL and DOTA2. However an official support from Blizzard via War Chest is still a welcome considering how many classic events couldnt sustain itself without sponsors and therefore medium/big tournaments was no longer possible.

I will be ok for KR to be able to travel like the old days however with the big Proleague disband flying players out might be hard. I also wouldn't mind a restrictive KR invite in the western region. AS much as I would love to have KR play so that WCS Circuit players can have a challenge, if we have a total stomp of KR in each tournament it might discourage NA/EU player to keep going.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
December 09 2016 20:09 GMT
#152
On December 10 2016 05:04 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 04:58 BaneRiders wrote:
On December 10 2016 04:47 Shellshock wrote:
On December 10 2016 02:35 opisska wrote:
I get that many people will not like the specifics, but can someone be really disappointed by this? I mean, I was honestly expecting the "no WCS in 2017" news to pop up any time soon, so the very existence of WCS 2017 with actual global finals and a dozen tournaments through they year, is strictly positive news to me and a cause for celebration.

I was feeling the same way


My beef with this new system is that there 4 WCS tournaments for 4 direct seeds to blizzcon and another 4 players will go there on WCS points from those 4 tournaments alone as far as I understand. This year there were 10 WCS tournaments where players fought for point up until the very last to qualify for blizzcon. 10 tournaments is a circuit. 4 tournaments is basically some grand slam tournaments without the circuit. Please tell me I have misunderstood something here.


WCS points can also be derived from the Challenger events, but yeah basically.


Yeah, we had those this year as well for the Winter, Spring and Summer championships. I'm all for qualifiers rather than direct seeds of any kind, but the point still stands. We go from 10 WCS events to 4. This is outrageous.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 20:20:02
December 09 2016 20:18 GMT
#153
On December 10 2016 05:04 eviltomahawk wrote:
I hope this isn't a final list of all tournaments that qualify for WCS points. IEM seems absent aside from IEM Katowice and IEM Korea. I hope this doesn't mean that IEM can't have one or two more tournaments that qualify for WCS points.

These are the only IEM events remaining in the current IEM season, they haven't announced their plans for next year yet. I have no idea how likely it is but it's always possible that we can see another WCS event at Shanghai/Taipei, or wherever IEM ends up next season.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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WhosQuany
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany257 Posts
December 09 2016 20:29 GMT
#154
Sick nice to see WCS in 2017! go go go GSL best league in the world!
Goin back to Cali
JuanDi
Profile Joined February 2016
45 Posts
December 09 2016 20:34 GMT
#155
On December 10 2016 02:23 Charoisaur wrote:
With the advantage of the korean infrastructure gone is there any logical reason to ban koreans from tournaments anymore?


if you look at other eSports and sports in general, one of the things that pulls people in are local teams/players. Just look at soccer, even those shitty teams who never win have a significant fan base. Region locking is not just about keeping koreans from getting eveything, but allowing for growth of all regions. People complain about koreans not getting enough tournaments, but do they take into account how little opportunities forteigners had before region locking? Sure they could compete in many tournaments but realistically they weren't going to win. Last year saw a massive growth in the scene, and though it is hurting korean sc2, the playing field is actually starting to balance a lot.
JuanDi
Profile Joined February 2016
45 Posts
December 09 2016 20:37 GMT
#156
On December 10 2016 05:18 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 05:04 eviltomahawk wrote:
I hope this isn't a final list of all tournaments that qualify for WCS points. IEM seems absent aside from IEM Katowice and IEM Korea. I hope this doesn't mean that IEM can't have one or two more tournaments that qualify for WCS points.

These are the only IEM events remaining in the current IEM season, they haven't announced their plans for next year yet. I have no idea how likely it is but it's always possible that we can see another WCS event at Shanghai/Taipei, or wherever IEM ends up next season.


Yeah, they always take longer to announce stuff because their seasons are off from WCS seasons. They are most probably going to do similar stuff to this year with a few circuit events and maybe a korean one. I really hope that last one happens.
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
December 09 2016 20:44 GMT
#157
Wow, you lot are never happy aren't you? This is a lot better than I was expecting. An extra GSL season and 2 extra weekend tournaments compared to last year. That's great. Being disappointed about things that were never realistically in the cards anyway, is your own fault for having ridiculous expectations. (like the Korean region lock disappearing is not going to happen because 1) the reasons it was instated are still there. 2) it worked.)
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
December 09 2016 20:55 GMT
#158
On December 10 2016 05:44 Thax wrote:
Wow, you lot are never happy aren't you? This is a lot better than I was expecting. An extra GSL season and 2 extra weekend tournaments compared to last year. That's great. Being disappointed about things that were never realistically in the cards anyway, is your own fault for having ridiculous expectations. (like the Korean region lock disappearing is not going to happen because 1) the reasons it was instated are still there. 2) it worked.)


1. Which reasons?
2. How did it work? The tournaments didn't have more viewers 2016 than before. Yes, the foreigners are closer to the Koreans than before '16, but that's also partly because the entire Korean scene fell apart.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 09 2016 20:59 GMT
#159
Meh. No more SSL is sad ._.

Guess we'll never see that dual-starleague winner after all. ByuL came close though as the only dual-finalist.
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Celepharn
Profile Joined July 2015
Mexico60 Posts
December 09 2016 21:00 GMT
#160
Just 3 premier tournaments for Kr feels bad, altho I thought it was going to be a lot worse... like a LOT
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