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Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On December 10 2016 08:56 Darkhorse wrote: To suggest that nobody in Korea has taken independent initiative or that no tournament in Korea has been funded by Korean orgs is way wrong btw I didn't suggest that. I'm saying that they are not doing it enough. You can't expect Blizzard to fund the entire scene... It's not realistic. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:05 Lgnarrow wrote: Last year of decent Sc2 pro scene. Sad bad true  I appreciate how you read an announcement that outlined the same level of commitment to SC2 for the next two years and then decided to come to this conclusion. It's a remarkable feat. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:07 Ansibled wrote: I appreciate how you read an announcement I appreciate how you think everyone bothers with reading the whole thing. | ||
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aQuaSC
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:05 Pr0wler wrote: I didn't suggest that. I'm saying that they are not doing it enough. You can't expect Blizzard to fund the entire scene... It's not realistic. It's funny you say that because the foreign scene probably would have died tbh if Blizzard hadn't stepped in and region locked a bunch of tournaments. But I do agree with you to an extent. I think Olimoleague is a great example of someone taking it into their own hands | ||
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r_gg
141 Posts
the Korean community is definitely looking quite delighted from what I've seen so far /s | ||
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MrWayne
219 Posts
I don´t understand why so many of you are disappointed, I think the new WCS System is better than the one from 2016. It´s the same over all WCS prizepool than last year, a little bit less for WCS korea and WCS Circuit and much more for global events. It´s obviously sad but, after the proleague thing, I´m not very surprised that there is no SSL next year in korea. On the other side the korean progame now have 8 tournaments to compete in, compared to 5 in 2016 wich is better for midtear pros. No Crossfinals is also a good thing I think because only the two champions and runner-ups had a chance to win more monney. the new WCS Circuit on the one side is bad for the European scene because it´s the biggest and now they have only 6 big tournaments(and two of them are global) and 4 very little ones to compete. One the other side it´s better for the players from LATAM, CN, TW and ANZ/SEA because they become 4 little tournaments per region for there own. well thats my thoughts  grtz | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
I always felt that SC2 should be all about the individual player, not about an individual playing 1 match in a set of 5 or 7. Team format SC2 doesn't showcase the individual's skills. It does show the brilliance of the coach though, and the team's ability to create sniper builds for specific opponents. But as I said earlier, it seems weird for the coach's planning ability to be the focus, instead of the player's skills. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:13 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: I never liked the PL format. Don't get me wrong, the games played were amazing, but trying to make a 1v1 game into a team format just seemed wrong, like putting a square peg into a round hole. I always felt that SC2 should be all about the individual player, not about an individual playing 1 match in a set of 5 or 7. Team format SC2 doesn't showcase the individual's skills. It does show the brilliance of the coach though, and the team's ability to create sniper builds for specific opponents. But as I said earlier, it seems weird for the coach's planning ability to be the focus, instead of the player's skills. I enjoyed proleague the most, all-kill was always the better format for me though. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:13 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Team format SC2 doesn't showcase the individual's skills. It does show the brilliance of the coach though, and the team's ability to create sniper builds for specific opponents. But as I said earlier, it seems weird for the coach's planning ability to be the focus, instead of the player's skills. Every time a snipe build in Proleague worked people were talking about the players, not the teams. Also first you say you never liked the PL format, then you say you don't like team formats in general. But what about all-kill format? That's all about showcasing the individuals on the team isn't it? Never mind that though, replacing Proleague can't be on Blizzard. Maybe VSL can establish itself properly and become the "new" Proleague. | ||
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Lightrush
Bulgaria164 Posts
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:08 Elentos wrote: I appreciate how you think everyone bothers with reading | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:22 Lightrush wrote: So the SSL is deded ? Did I miss the announcement or something ? This is the announcement, you're looking at it right now. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:02 Ansibled wrote: The IEM and WCS seasons don't line up. There are only 2 events left on the IEM circuit this year, Gyeonggi and Katowice. We won't know more about IEM until they announce their plans for next season, it's possible they host more events though I don't know how likely this is. In any case I don't think Korea got fucked is a reasonable conclusion to draw from all of this. As an aside I hope people support online tournaments more this year, especially things like Olimoleague. You've turned me around to some extent here. I think Korea is getting slightly fucked and not all of it from Blizzard. Just the loss of PL really hurts them | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada18051 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:12 r_gg wrote: the Korean community is definitely looking quite delighted from what I've seen so far /s hopefully, a lot of war chests will be purchased and a funding drive is undertaken by the pillars of the korean community. once 10 million war chests are purchased by korean SC2 fans Blizzard will get the message. | ||
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ossavi09
Germany441 Posts
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lestye
United States4280 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:37 Darkhorse wrote: You've turned me around to some extent here. I think Korea is getting slightly fucked and not all of it from Blizzard. Just the loss of PL really hurts them Which is ultimately not their fault. Blizzard didn't run or organize the Proleague, that what Kespa did. | ||
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aQuaSC
717 Posts
On December 10 2016 09:48 ossavi09 wrote: so some WCS players will get their travel expenses paid and all the others better hope they are on teamliquid? o.O TL is not a guarantee for everything now, they had to move some resources to their new Civilization department + Show Spoiler + Just kidding, don't hate on me | ||
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Matroid_Prime
Canada59 Posts
Very excited that SC2 will be continuing in 2017. Also i'll be very happy if we don't return to the 2015 where foreigners may as well not of existed. | ||
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