NonY to return to SC2
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On December 07 2016 15:08 a_flayer wrote: I don't see it happening, he hasn't particularly impressed me at any point in his SC2 career. Too many young dedicated kids that are far more competitive than him. Best of luck tho. There is no greater force than a man determined to rise. | ||
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On December 07 2016 15:20 BronzeKnee wrote: There is no greater force than a man determined to rise. For some reason I read this as: "There is no greater force than bread determined to rise." LOL! Good luck Nony ![]() | ||
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All that naysaying aside, I like NonY and sincerely hope he proves me wrong. It would be super exciting to see him start to win tournaments again =) | ||
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On December 07 2016 15:15 sharkie wrote: Is that a confirmation that Blizzcon 2017 will be foreigner only? how did you came up with that conclusion? why on Earth would it be foreigners only? | ||
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On December 07 2016 16:24 Nuclease wrote: Love that we're still seeing greats like Nony coming back. glhf If only Idra would come back. If only. In fact, Nony should come back at the same time and play a showmatch versus Idra. | ||
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On December 07 2016 16:06 killerm12 wrote: how did you came up with that conclusion? why on Earth would it be foreigners only? Because nony believes he can qualify for it | ||
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On December 07 2016 16:36 BronzeKnee wrote: If only Idra would come back. If only. In fact, Nony should come back at the same time and play a showmatch versus Idra. Idra realized when it was time to move on with his life. So did Thorzain. It is a good skill toi have. | ||
Cascade
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Didn't see that coming, but would be really cool! I still keep and cherish a ZvP vs NonY (I got rolled ofc) from back in the hamachi days. ![]() NonY fighting!! | ||
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On December 07 2016 16:37 Garaman wrote: I miss TSL, where Nony crushed Idra =D well my last memory of nony was him getting wrecked by thorzain in tsl3... but good news nonetheless, we certainly need some hype for 2017. glhf nony!! | ||
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Gogo Nony | ||
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Good luck man | ||
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(promising to play but not even showing up) | ||
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On December 07 2016 18:18 graNite wrote: I'm betting 100€ that he wont make it. I'm betting 100€ that he'll win the hole thing in a PvP final against Neeb (and then stop competing seriously again like after winning TSL2). | ||
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On December 07 2016 15:20 BronzeKnee wrote: There is no greater force than a man determined to rise. There is, it's called men determined to rise but with more talent. He could qualify easily tho with the new WCS system, even Drogo managed to do it with a bit of luck. Gl, hopefully there'll still be koreans to compete against. | ||
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On December 07 2016 15:30 mewithoutDrew wrote: With high level talent and teams leaving the scene; this makes sense. And he actually might have a shot if he trains hard enough. While that is true, Blizzcon '17 not featuring Sc2 finals might also be true :D :D | ||
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On December 07 2016 19:10 Jealous wrote: So Liquid.NonY on ICCup is not Nony? ): could be him but probably not, or old account? | ||
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klimuszko
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Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement. | ||
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On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote: Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits. Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement. Yeah wow. Someone who was/is super important to the Starcraft scene is coming back to maybe give it another shot, that's totally not news worthy. | ||
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On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote: Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits. Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement. I don't know, I suspect if Idra or any other well-known StarCraft player came back, they would receive the same. Also, Nony was actually quite good at broodwar | ||
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Good luck NonY, I'm a believer | ||
klimuszko
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On December 07 2016 22:27 KadaverBB wrote: Yeah wow. Someone who was/is super important to the Starcraft scene is coming back to maybe give it another shot, that's totally not news worthy. What makes him super important to the scene? Genuine question as I'm very interested in finding out. | ||
207aicila
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On December 07 2016 23:00 klimuszko wrote: What makes him super important to the scene? Genuine question as I'm very interested in finding out. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2009_Pokerstrategy.com_TSL | ||
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On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote: Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement. Please just leave this thread, why do you feel the need to ruin a genuine good moment? If you don't like it, just don't open the thread and avoid comments.. | ||
klimuszko
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I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic. | ||
207aicila
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On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote: Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement. A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc). | ||
207aicila
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On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote: Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back. I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic. I understand the point that you're trying to make with respect to his lacking SC2 career. The reason people are as respectful and potentially excited when it comes to NonY, is that he looked more impressive in BW than any SC2 foreigner has looked in SC2. It's impossible to tell whether determination alone will allow him to reach the same level in this game, but the potential is there. | ||
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On December 07 2016 23:19 207aicila wrote: A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc). Wasn't some Chinese the best non Korean player? | ||
207aicila
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On December 07 2016 23:22 sharkie wrote: Wasn't some Chinese the best non Korean player? F91 did amazing in Liquibition in head to head showmatches against those top western dudes, but then failed to deliver in pretty much every subsequent "big" / "real" tournament. So it's hard to say. | ||
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On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote: Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back. I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic. He was one of the best foreigners in the BW scene, is a former member of the TL pro team, is an active poster on the forums and seems like an all around good guy. That's reason enough to feature the thread, despite his lack of results in SC2. | ||
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On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote: Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits. Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement. you may be completely right about what will happen with his career. hell, you probably are. personally i'm not even much of a fan of nony based on the way i've seen him post on the forums. but i have to ask: what exactly are you contributing by making this post? do you feel smart? do you want nony to feel bad about himself for playing the game? do you feel entitled to something here? i just don't get what you're going for here. just feel like making people listen to you? | ||
JimmyJRaynor
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having an additional voice of reason.. having a guy who can see the forest through the trees while providing feedback to Blizz ... is all good stuff. | ||
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On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote: Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back. I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic. Your idiotic logic (why play if you are not the best?) is in effect in the scene at the moment - only bunch of best players left with little to no lower level ambitious players. If you don't care then why even read this topic? And yes, I'd personally be happy if Naama started playing again, Tarson can play again too, as well as dozens of others | ||
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On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote: Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back. I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic. I'm just saying that you are being overly negative about this thing. Nony returning is pretty cool for some of the community, so we put it in community news, that's all. It's not like we have 45 interviews and 37 photoshoots lined up. Some of us are excited, if you are not, that's totally fine, but you don't have to be a debbie downer either! | ||
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On December 07 2016 23:19 207aicila wrote: A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc). Idra was the best, by far, after 2 years in Korea. If Nony was ever the best, it was short lived. He also went to Korea to be on a pro team. While you have to be amazing to even do that, how many trained in Korea? Him, idra and Ret. It was a big advantage, I'd imagine... However, in SC 2, lots of players have done so. Everyone is talking about Nony as if he has never played SC 2 before. I don't see why so much focus is on BW, compared to what he actually did in SC 2 when he was already trying to accomplish this feat... 1) Idra couldn't qualify for WCS. 2) Nony wasn't at a WCS level when his job was to train for said things. I think Nony has great mechanics and the mind for it, but the fact I've yet to see him as a high GM on NA is concerning. Then add in a hiatus from the game? Then add in the atrocious balance for macro Toss players... lots of challenges. | ||
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On December 08 2016 01:42 playa wrote: Idra was the best, by far, after 2 years in Korea. H2H says otherwise... oh wait, I remember you, you're that IdrA fanboy. Carry on. ![]() | ||
playa
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On December 08 2016 01:49 207aicila wrote: H2H says otherwise... oh wait, I remember you, you're that IdrA fanboy. Carry on. ![]() Idra fan boy? Even I beat Idra, after he was in Korea for years. T vs P is stupid hard. You can lose to anyone. If that H2H is even close, he's the better player in my eyes. I like Nony. I BM with Idra every game. I have no reason to fan boy the guy. It is what it is. Both great players, but Idra reached a point where he literally didn't lose to anyone that wasn't a Korean A Teamer. I'm not trying to hate, I just don't quite understand it. It's not like he pulled a mondragon where he simply dabbled in SC 2, so you have no idea what he might be capable of. If you're not an aggro monkey, life is really hard for a Toss player atm. The god of ladder, Minigun, is barely even in GM now... so I have reservations. | ||
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On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote: Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back. I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic. Naama is a god so he definitely would deserve a topic | ||
Aocowns
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On December 08 2016 02:11 Luolis wrote: Naama is a god so he definitely would deserve a topic Rumour has it that any time naama's name is spoken anywhere in the world, luolis sits with his notebook waiting to once again learn ladder hero builds | ||
Jett.Jack.Alvir
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On December 07 2016 23:00 klimuszko wrote: What makes him super important to the scene? Genuine question as I'm very interested in finding out. You're not being genuine or interested in finding out. You just want to trash on this thread because you don't feel its newsworthy. If you really were genuine, you wouldn't have replied with this asinine comment aftewards Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement. The sarcasm is dripping from your words. You're being an asshole. To some of us, Nony returning is great news. In fact, I would say many. Yes MANY TLers are happy about his return. We don't care about what he won, or his list of acheivements. We care that Tyler has always treated people with respect. He takes the time to read comments, and always address the argument. He never uses adhominem or straw man fallacies, nor does he disrespect others. I am a fan of Nony the person, not Nony the progamer. You obviously are indifferent, but for some reason choose to be an asshole about the thread. If its not important to you, just don't comment. Honestly, I feel you should be banned for being such a douchebag, but unfortunately I am not a mod. | ||
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On December 07 2016 23:21 207aicila wrote: I understand the point that you're trying to make with respect to his lacking SC2 career. The reason people are as respectful and potentially excited when it comes to NonY, is that he looked more impressive in BW than any SC2 foreigner has looked in SC2. It's impossible to tell whether determination alone will allow him to reach the same level in this game, but the potential is there. wtf... that's not true. yea he had an okay courage run but his peak wasn't even the highest foreigner peak in bw whereas sc2 foreigners have legitimately been in the running for the best in the world at points? | ||
cutler
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On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote: Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement. Idra? Is this your smurf account? Still active? ;-P Good luck NonY | ||
TheDougler
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On December 07 2016 15:08 a_flayer wrote: I don't see it happening, he hasn't particularly impressed me at any point in his SC2 career. Too many young dedicated kids that are far more competitive than him. Best of luck tho. Same. I wish him the best but I'm not sure he's got what it takes to make it in SC2. | ||
Psychobabas
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See you at Blizzcon NonY | ||
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klimuszko
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To straight things out. I've heard of Nony as I watch the scene since wol. My point wasn't to attack anybody. I checked tl bw/sc2 sites, 5 noticable places in bw tournaments, some ro's in sc2, googled to find out he was once suspended while being in teamliquid, and was just surprised. What's the big deal about that he's coming back. Now I know a bit more, thanks to some who actually cared to response in a normal manner instead of dropping link to bw tournament that happened 7 years ago. And I'm happy as usual that some people still come to this game and try, with it's current state as we all know it. I would LOVE for Naama to comeback, finals vs mana on that first dh were awesome! Comparison was just to point out my point of view. Cheers | ||
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On December 08 2016 03:38 klimuszko wrote: I see some of you take some questions and a bit of sarcasm, a little bit to yourself. To straight things out. I've heard of Nony as I watch the scene since wol. My point wasn't to attack anybody. I checked tl bw/sc2 sites, 5 noticable places in bw tournaments, some ro's in sc2, googled to find out he was once suspended while being in teamliquid, and was just surprised. What's the big deal about that he's coming back. Now I know a bit more, thanks to some who actually cared to response in a normal manner instead of dropping link to bw tournament that happened 7 years ago. And I'm happy as usual that some people still come to this game and try, with it's current state as we all know it. I would LOVE for Naama to comeback, finals vs mana on that first dh were awesome! Comparison was just to point out my point of view. Cheers His results aside, he was and is part of the liquid family with many fans liking him so why not he could try again? | ||
StatixEx
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Nony only came up on any radar was when he beat idra i think, but at that time everyone was super pissed off with protoss and dare i say it, it nearly was the death of the game there and then but then something happened with the queens and zerg started to come back. I seemed to remember everyone hating drops and not knowing how to deal . . . .they didnt have a fucking goFast button then! im responding because the game is literally in bad shape at the minute, and then someone who didnt do anything is coming back? Back to what? and i just cant bare to scroll up and see all the <3 nonY fucking messages. I do wish him well but i think the best of this game is certainly behind us now | ||
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Luolis
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On December 08 2016 02:16 Aocowns wrote: Rumour has it that any time naama's name is spoken anywhere in the world, luolis sits with his notebook waiting to once again learn ladder hero builds The rumour may, or may not be true | ||
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If these points aren't good enough to be excited about a member of the Teamliquid family, then you're missing the entire point of this website. | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
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We all know how difficult his journey is going to be, and there are many skeptics (albeit with good reason). But its the journey that is most important. Even if he bombs or doesn't come close to qualifying, the fact that he is trying is the most admiral part. Given the opportunity to try for Blizzcon, would any of you do it knowing the road will be riddled with difficulties? That is why I am happy to hear Nony is back on the horse. | ||
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On December 07 2016 19:10 Jealous wrote: So Liquid.NonY on ICCup is not Nony? ): That is Talent a protons player. Anyways Good Luck Nony! | ||
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On December 08 2016 03:38 klimuszko wrote: I see some of you take some questions and a bit of sarcasm, a little bit to yourself. To straight things out. I've heard of Nony as I watch the scene since wol. My point wasn't to attack anybody. I checked tl bw/sc2 sites, 5 noticable places in bw tournaments, some ro's in sc2, googled to find out he was once suspended while being in teamliquid, and was just surprised. What's the big deal about that he's coming back. Now I know a bit more, thanks to some who actually cared to response in a normal manner instead of dropping link to bw tournament that happened 7 years ago. And I'm happy as usual that some people still come to this game and try, with it's current state as we all know it. I would LOVE for Naama to comeback, finals vs mana on that first dh were awesome! Comparison was just to point out my point of view. Cheers You say that, but you came into the thread pretty heavy. We could thank you next time to inquire politely first rather than: "shots fired" in your opening comments. Perhaps a less confrontational approach would more quickly garner you a more informative response. | ||
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intotheheart
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This is awesome! I really hope he makes it! On December 08 2016 06:46 Prophanity wrote: So we still have that thing were anyone who isn't Korean is a "foreigner" eh? Yeah. A buddy who organizes local tournaments in Toronto even says: "yeah we've got some good foreigners coming by!" when he talks about guys like MaSa attending. | ||
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I wish you all success, hope you achieve your dream. | ||
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On December 08 2016 04:17 BisuDagger wrote:
If these points aren't good enough to be excited about a member of the Teamliquid family, then you're missing the entire point of this website. Word. GO NONY. p.s. how do I get a visa to bisutopia? thx | ||
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Heyoka
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Would be a dream come true to see him at BlizzCon for me too! | ||
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CursOr
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+ Show Spoiler + one of my favorite games of all time: | ||
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Samba
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Anyways, super excited too, GO NonY, we´re gonna cheer for you! | ||
TequilaMockingbird
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Too many young killer nerds like Neeb, Marinelord, uThermal + seasoned veterans like Snute or Scarlett out there. I would be surprised if he even makes it anywhere close to the cut off line tbh. But lets not be too pessimistic here, all the best to Nony and lets see how far he can go ! btw a little off-topic, but does anyone know what happened to Bunny ? Is he taking a break from the game ? | ||
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207aicila
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On December 09 2016 16:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote: as Nony rises through the ladder i see a collision course with a certain loud-mouthed carnival-barker who represents the anti-thesis of all the things Nony stands for... There's only one? Or have the others moved onto more suitable toxic games when I stopped paying attention? | ||
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imJealous
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To those complaining that any of us care about his return, its no different than being excited about seeing someone like White-Ra play. Its not always just about results. In all of sports people find individuals whose personalities and life stories resonate with their own personalities and experiences and feel a connection to that individual and a desire to see them succeed in whatever degree is meaningful to that individual. A lot of us felt a strong kinship with Nony from both his broodwar years and from his time in the SC2 public spotlight. For many people I'm sure the story of what he has been dealing with in his personal life has only amplified that connection. To see him come back to the community is exciting to us. We don't know if he can achieve what he's claiming he's set out to do, but we are excited to see him try regardless of whether he succeeds or not, because we as a community have come to care about him as a person, not just his success. | ||
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NonY
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On December 09 2016 16:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote: as Nony rises through the ladder i see a collision course with a certain loud-mouthed carnival-barker who represents the anti-thesis of all the things Nony stands for... I'm sure I'm gonna lose some games on stream to some unsavory types. It's fine, I'll just learn from it and queue again and they can make of it whatever they want. | ||
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NonY
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On December 10 2016 03:33 AnathemAbw wrote: you haven't had the motivation to take it all the way in the past what the fuck... ok time to stop reading this shit | ||
Prolet
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There is no doubt in my mind that this is worthy of a thread, NonY. You have contributed a lot to TL and to the SC2 community. All the noteworthy interactions you have had with your teammates and the community, seen and unseen. I saw on your Twitter you placed highly in a half-marathon awhile back, so no doubt you are capable of accomplishing great things. And I look forward to watching you in the future. Remember that every peak has a valley, so try not to get too up or down mentally at any time, about what some person says. Keep a consistent intensity going. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say. All the best going forward! ![]() | ||
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InfCereal
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On December 10 2016 04:29 NonY wrote: what the fuck... ok time to stop reading this shit What a beautiful summary of the internet | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
So pumped to see this announcement. | ||
Jett.Jack.Alvir
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
Long time fan, I still have your TSL games against Mondragon saved on my external HDD somewhere, best of luck. | ||
ramon
Germany4842 Posts
now we need to bring state of the game back | ||
Duka08
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Cool to see you back in action Nony, I haven't watched in years but you were always one of my favorite players back in the WoL days. | ||
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On December 10 2016 06:32 InfCereal wrote: What a beautiful summary of the internet If people want to be a public figure then they should recognize that they are putting themselves out there for public scrutiny. Not saying this in a hateful way, just being realistic and fair. | ||
aQuaSC
717 Posts
On December 10 2016 10:37 travis wrote: If people want to be a public figure then they should recognize that they are putting themselves out there for public scrutiny. Not saying this in a hateful way, just being realistic and fair. You must agree that some of the comments made here are far from scrutiny. | ||
GuiltyJerk
United States584 Posts
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paxconsciente
Belgium91 Posts
Once again, I hope i'm wrong. Goodluck, Nony. | ||
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
Given an opportunity to pursue any career I wanted for one year, I would not choose SC2 as my career path. | ||
Lambertus
South Africa975 Posts
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
GL NonY! | ||
aQuaSC
717 Posts
On December 10 2016 15:13 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Even if I had a chance to be progamer, there is no way I would choose SC2. I love it, but not enough to risk my career. I'd probably play Hearthstone or OW. Given an opportunity to pursue any career I wanted for one year, I would not choose SC2 as my career path. Since when do you choose a game you want to play based on how feasible it is as a career? He'll play what he wants | ||
las91
United States5080 Posts
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
It's one of the reasons I am stoked about NonY doing it. I have another SC2 fan to cheer for. Honestly, I was losing interest because of HS and OW. NonY is bringing the passion back in me. | ||
Mengmeng
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User was banned for this post. | ||
RubberDucky88
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GL i will be keeping an eye on you :D | ||
ThreeSixDrew
Canada183 Posts
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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CryovaK
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fishjie
United States1519 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote: Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby. How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation? | ||
fishjie
United States1519 Posts
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote: How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation? Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post? | ||
Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote: Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post? point is that it doesnt have to be a financially good move i guess | ||
Splynn
United States225 Posts
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote: Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post? In Nony's original tweet he talks about wanting to do it and it being a personal goal to go to Blizzcon. Nowhere does he say "I am doing this because it will be a great financial move." Maybe judge people less? Him returning to SC2 doesn't negatively affect you, and it's totally up to him. Quit being so negative for no good reason. | ||
Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On December 14 2016 06:59 Splynn wrote: In Nony's original tweet he talks about wanting to do it and it being a personal goal to go to Blizzcon. Nowhere does he say "I am doing this because it will be a great financial move." Maybe judge people less? Him returning to SC2 doesn't negatively affect you, and it's totally up to him. Quit being so negative for no good reason. He is right though, SC2 isn't that popular. That said, it depends if Nony wants competition more than money. | ||
grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote: Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post? are you the guy who goes to mcdonalds and tell the cashiers "wow you know actually this food isn't that healthy"? | ||
ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote: Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post? You're saying returning to SC2 is a bad decision purely because it's a bad financial one, which everyone including Nony knows. You said you can't reach top-level if it's 'just a hobby' which I interpreted 'you have to play full-time to reach top-level', even though Nony may have enough money to play full-time for a year without making a dollar from SC2. It's pretty silly for you to assume Nony didn't use his brain when deciding to return, and rude to be so dismissive of somebody obviously following their passion. | ||
Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On December 15 2016 01:18 ZAiNs wrote: You're saying returning to SC2 is a bad decision purely because it's a bad financial one, which everyone including Nony knows. You said you can't reach top-level if it's 'just a hobby' which I interpreted 'you have to play full-time to reach top-level', even though Nony may have enough money to play full-time for a year without making a dollar from SC2. It's pretty silly for you to assume Nony didn't use his brain when deciding to return, and rude to be so dismissive of somebody obviously following their passion. it's pretty honest of him to just name the financial situation of a sc2 progamer as he perceives it. Then again, it's a bit of a no-brainer i admit. I don't think he tries to be dismissive about nony's passion, when he saying "Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2" But it surely is no reason not to come back. Plenty of folks play their favorite game still/came back whit a lot of dedication and zero monetary incentive. | ||
fishjie
United States1519 Posts
so i'll just say this, remember your snide holier than though responses to this post months from now, as team X,Y,Z announces disbanding and player A,B,C announce the switch to coaching a LoL team. Although I guess with EG disbanding their sc2 squad there really aren't any big teams to disband anymore. Team liquid is still around, but i'm not sure how many players on their roster are actually still active. Even if it were naniwa or stephano who had way more success in sc2 than nony did announcing a return, i'd have the same response. it makes way more sense for nony to either go back to BW like many pros are, where he actually had legit success, or move on to LoL or DOTA where there's actual money | ||
Splynn
United States225 Posts
On December 15 2016 04:13 fishjie wrote: lol i was going to stop responding because people apparently don't like to acknowledge reality. so i'll just say this, remember your snide holier than though responses to this post months from now, as team X,Y,Z announces disbanding and player A,B,C announce the switch to coaching a LoL team. Although I guess with EG disbanding their sc2 squad there really aren't any big teams to disband anymore. Team liquid is still around, but i'm not sure how many players on their roster are actually still active. Even if it were naniwa or stephano who had way more success in sc2 than nony did announcing a return, i'd have the same response. it makes way more sense for nony to either go back to BW like many pros are, where he actually had legit success, or move on to LoL or DOTA where there's actual money Did you actually read what the responses were? Did anybody, as a response to you, state that they thought SC2 was in a great state, or that they thought it was the best game to enter from a financial perspective? You're just doom and glooming for no reason. Everyone here, as best I can tell, agrees with you that SC2 could be in a better state. But there's no point bringing it up here, because it's completely irrelevant to the topic. Had Nony said "I am returning to SC2 because I want to make a million dollars", then maybe your comments would actually have some merit. | ||
Noocta
France12578 Posts
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote: Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby. He's taking a break from Helya Mythic progression, that's why :p jk jk, good luck Nony. | ||
Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On December 15 2016 04:32 Splynn wrote: Did you actually read what the responses were? Did anybody, as a response to you, state that they thought SC2 was in a great state, or that they thought it was the best game to enter from a financial perspective? You're just doom and glooming for no reason. Everyone here, as best I can tell, agrees with you that SC2 could be in a better state. But there's no point bringing it up here, because it's completely irrelevant to the topic. Had Nony said "I am returning to SC2 because I want to make a million dollars", then maybe your comments would actually have some merit. Attacking a point no-one made is the forum brawler's foremost weapon. Calling everyone kid being the second. | ||
lastprobeALIVE
United States973 Posts
tbh nony is very smart, and has good mechanics. | ||
lagcats
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Fonze
United States34 Posts
it's from 2006. | ||
Lambertus
South Africa975 Posts
https://www.twitch.tv/nony Nony has started streaming again. No fixed schedule, so best to subscribe or follow if you want some protoss action! | ||
Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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ThreeSixDrew
Canada183 Posts
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On February 01 2017 11:31 ThreeSixDrew wrote: Has anyone noticed if Nony is practicing? he has definitely been playing. he's been streaming some of his games on ladder every now and then. | ||
Fatam
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16701 Posts
But those dreams have remained and they've turned around Who'd have thought they'd lead ya Back here where we need ya Yeah we tease him a lot 'cause we got him on the spot Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back We always could spot a friend, welcome back And I smile when I think how you must have been And I know what a scene you were learning in Was there something that made you come back again And what could ever lead ya Back here where we need ya Welcome Back | ||
ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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TT1
Canada10009 Posts
On December 14 2016 17:58 Heyoka wrote: are you the guy who goes to mcdonalds and tell the cashiers "wow you know actually this food isn't that healthy"? what if he buys a kale salad (WITH NO SAUCE) and then says that | ||
tili
United States1332 Posts
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_fool
Netherlands677 Posts
(Busted, horses! Busted!) | ||
Kong95
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Lambertus
South Africa975 Posts
On February 01 2017 11:39 reneg wrote: he has definitely been playing. he's been streaming some of his games on ladder every now and then. Yes, that is that. Its nice watching him stream and ladder. Solid stuff. | ||
EAGER-beaver
Canada2799 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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DudeMan260
United States17 Posts
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Lambertus
South Africa975 Posts
On February 02 2017 03:31 Dazed_Spy wrote: Hopefully his depression is under control and he can stay physically/mentally healthy. Dont like sc2 at all, but I do like nony, I hope hes well. He stated in his last interview that at the moment everything is ok regarding that, | ||
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