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Profile Joined July 2011
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Last Edited: 2016-12-07 06:07:32
December 07 2016 05:55 GMT
#1

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True_Spike
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Poland3423 Posts
December 07 2016 06:06 GMT
#2
Fuck yes!
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 07 2016 06:07 GMT
#3
Ohhh snap. That's awesome.
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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
December 07 2016 06:08 GMT
#4
I don't see it happening, he hasn't particularly impressed me at any point in his SC2 career. Too many young dedicated kids that are far more competitive than him. Best of luck tho.
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Profile Joined August 2009
Norway308 Posts
December 07 2016 06:09 GMT
#5
Seems weird to go back to SC2 atm. When i read "return" I honestly thought it would be BW. Looking forward to it anyways, been a fan of his for a long time (Y)
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
December 07 2016 06:09 GMT
#6
WOOOOOOOOO! One of the foreign legends is returning! Now, just need Goeff, JP, Tyler and Sean to make a SotG return and my life will be complete!
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18403 Posts
December 07 2016 06:15 GMT
#7
Is that a confirmation that Blizzcon 2017 will be foreigner only?
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
December 07 2016 06:18 GMT
#8
I'm glad he found his motivation again
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
December 07 2016 06:18 GMT
#9
I haven't really been paying much attention to SC2 for a couple years now, but this would definitely get me invested again if it came true.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 07 2016 06:19 GMT
#10
NOOOOOOOOONY!!!!!! Andro is gonna be ecstatic about this.....
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
December 07 2016 06:20 GMT
#11
On December 07 2016 15:08 a_flayer wrote:
I don't see it happening, he hasn't particularly impressed me at any point in his SC2 career. Too many young dedicated kids that are far more competitive than him. Best of luck tho.


There is no greater force than a man determined to rise.
gab12
Profile Joined June 2016
Poland147 Posts
December 07 2016 06:27 GMT
#12
thats hot :D
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
December 07 2016 06:29 GMT
#13
On December 07 2016 15:20 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 15:08 a_flayer wrote:
I don't see it happening, he hasn't particularly impressed me at any point in his SC2 career. Too many young dedicated kids that are far more competitive than him. Best of luck tho.


There is no greater force than a man determined to rise.


For some reason I read this as:

"There is no greater force than bread determined to rise."

LOL!

Good luck Nony . Glad to see you're still with the scene.
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mewithoutDrew
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Canada56 Posts
December 07 2016 06:30 GMT
#14
With high level talent and teams leaving the scene; this makes sense. And he actually might have a shot if he trains hard enough.
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Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States873 Posts
December 07 2016 06:33 GMT
#15
I hope he can make it work, but like one of the posters above said he's never really been considered one of the best SC2 foreigners. We all know he has smarts and can innovate, but it's hard to imagine anyone who hasn't been busting their butts training and practicing for several years earning a spot in Blizzcon. If the system works anything like it has in the past, he would need to start placing well in tournaments pretty much right off the bat in January/February to start banking up points. That's a really short time to get on the same level as players like snute, showtime, nerchio, elazer, neeb, etc.

All that naysaying aside, I like NonY and sincerely hope he proves me wrong. It would be super exciting to see him start to win tournaments again =)
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5502 Posts
December 07 2016 06:54 GMT
#16
Right on good to hear it.
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killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
December 07 2016 07:06 GMT
#17
On December 07 2016 15:15 sharkie wrote:
Is that a confirmation that Blizzcon 2017 will be foreigner only?


how did you came up with that conclusion? why on Earth would it be foreigners only?
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Garemie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States248 Posts
December 07 2016 07:12 GMT
#18
Aw man what fantastic news. NOOONNYYYYY
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 07:34:51
December 07 2016 07:14 GMT
#19
Where is the in-depth interview about his return, OP?
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Daeracon
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden199 Posts
December 07 2016 07:14 GMT
#20
Go NonY!
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Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
December 07 2016 07:24 GMT
#21
Love that we're still seeing greats like Nony coming back. glhf
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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
December 07 2016 07:25 GMT
#22
NonY! Please pick zerg
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6209 Posts
December 07 2016 07:35 GMT
#23
Nice. Good luck mate.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 07:37:25
December 07 2016 07:36 GMT
#24
On December 07 2016 16:24 Nuclease wrote:
Love that we're still seeing greats like Nony coming back. glhf


If only Idra would come back.

If only.

In fact, Nony should come back at the same time and play a showmatch versus Idra.
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
December 07 2016 07:37 GMT
#25
I miss TSL, where Nony crushed Idra =D
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18403 Posts
December 07 2016 07:37 GMT
#26
On December 07 2016 16:06 killerm12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 15:15 sharkie wrote:
Is that a confirmation that Blizzcon 2017 will be foreigner only?


how did you came up with that conclusion? why on Earth would it be foreigners only?


Because nony believes he can qualify for it
TheHumanLife
Profile Joined September 2016
138 Posts
December 07 2016 07:48 GMT
#27
i've seen this guy a lot during WOL
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
December 07 2016 07:59 GMT
#28
amazing to hear
hi. big fan.
Silan
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark198 Posts
December 07 2016 08:09 GMT
#29
Even last time NonY was "motivated" for sc2, he never really made anything significant results. Doubt its going to happen now, but power to him, now is probably his chance with so much thinner field.
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
December 07 2016 08:15 GMT
#30
On December 07 2016 16:36 BronzeKnee wrote:
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On December 07 2016 16:24 Nuclease wrote:
Love that we're still seeing greats like Nony coming back. glhf


If only Idra would come back.

If only.

In fact, Nony should come back at the same time and play a showmatch versus Idra.


Idra realized when it was time to move on with his life. So did Thorzain.

It is a good skill toi have.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 07 2016 08:18 GMT
#31
Waaaaaa!! :o

Didn't see that coming, but would be really cool!

I still keep and cherish a ZvP vs NonY (I got rolled ofc) from back in the hamachi days.

NonY fighting!!
SLimeSC2
Profile Joined November 2016
20 Posts
December 07 2016 08:20 GMT
#32
wonder if he'll be less bm upon his return. hoping for the best
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
December 07 2016 08:25 GMT
#33
Cool, respect to nony for this!
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hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
December 07 2016 08:38 GMT
#34
Really excited for this!
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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
December 07 2016 08:39 GMT
#35
Welcome back Nony, time to put some kids in there places
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Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa975 Posts
December 07 2016 08:42 GMT
#36
Yey
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mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey779 Posts
December 07 2016 08:54 GMT
#37
Oye
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Russian Federation1016 Posts
December 07 2016 09:13 GMT
#38
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Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
December 07 2016 09:14 GMT
#39
Best news in a long time
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
December 07 2016 09:18 GMT
#40
I'm betting 100€ that he wont make it.
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ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
December 07 2016 09:24 GMT
#41
I did not expect this. It seems like the perfect time to make return to the forums as well. lol.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
December 07 2016 09:26 GMT
#42
did NA get own WCS spots now or what
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Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
December 07 2016 09:50 GMT
#43
On December 07 2016 16:37 Garaman wrote:
I miss TSL, where Nony crushed Idra =D


well my last memory of nony was him getting wrecked by thorzain in tsl3...

but good news nonetheless, we certainly need some hype for 2017.

glhf nony!!
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
December 07 2016 09:52 GMT
#44
Good SC2 news? I forgot how it felt

Gogo Nony
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Beany
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands396 Posts
December 07 2016 09:52 GMT
#45
NonY!! <3
Good luck man
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lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
December 07 2016 10:00 GMT
#46
Nony thats freaking awesome! Sc2 needed some hype like this. I am sure he will do great.
mantequilla
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Turkey779 Posts
December 07 2016 10:08 GMT
#47
hope it doesn't end up like whitera's tweet :/

(promising to play but not even showing up)
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10149 Posts
December 07 2016 10:10 GMT
#48
So Liquid.NonY on ICCup is not Nony? ):
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shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
December 07 2016 10:23 GMT
#49
On December 07 2016 18:18 graNite wrote:
I'm betting 100€ that he wont make it.

I'm betting 100€ that he'll win the hole thing in a PvP final against Neeb (and then stop competing seriously again like after winning TSL2).
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12874 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 10:30:58
December 07 2016 10:29 GMT
#50
On December 07 2016 15:20 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 15:08 a_flayer wrote:
I don't see it happening, he hasn't particularly impressed me at any point in his SC2 career. Too many young dedicated kids that are far more competitive than him. Best of luck tho.


There is no greater force than a man determined to rise.

There is, it's called men determined to rise but with more talent.
He could qualify easily tho with the new WCS system, even Drogo managed to do it with a bit of luck.
Gl, hopefully there'll still be koreans to compete against.
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KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany943 Posts
December 07 2016 10:46 GMT
#51
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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 07 2016 11:30 GMT
#52
On December 07 2016 15:30 mewithoutDrew wrote:
With high level talent and teams leaving the scene; this makes sense. And he actually might have a shot if he trains hard enough.

While that is true, Blizzcon '17 not featuring Sc2 finals might also be true :D :D
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa975 Posts
December 07 2016 12:20 GMT
#53
On December 07 2016 19:10 Jealous wrote:
So Liquid.NonY on ICCup is not Nony? ):


could be him but probably not, or old account?
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WhosQuany
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany257 Posts
December 07 2016 12:25 GMT
#54
My Hero! GL Nony
Goin back to Cali
klimuszko
Profile Joined January 2016
24 Posts
December 07 2016 12:32 GMT
#55
Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits.

Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
December 07 2016 13:27 GMT
#56
On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote:
Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits.

Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement.


Yeah wow. Someone who was/is super important to the Starcraft scene is coming back to maybe give it another shot, that's totally not news worthy.
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
December 07 2016 13:30 GMT
#57
I'll believe it when it happens I guess?
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 07 2016 13:33 GMT
#58
Let's see how this pans out, looking forward to it!
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 13:48:16
December 07 2016 13:47 GMT
#59
On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote:
Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits.

Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement.

I don't know, I suspect if Idra or any other well-known StarCraft player came back, they would receive the same. Also, Nony was actually quite good at broodwar
JulDraGoN
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Sweden370 Posts
December 07 2016 13:47 GMT
#60
This is so cool!
Good luck NonY, I'm a believer
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klimuszko
Profile Joined January 2016
24 Posts
December 07 2016 14:00 GMT
#61
On December 07 2016 22:27 KadaverBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote:
Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits.

Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement.


Yeah wow. Someone who was/is super important to the Starcraft scene is coming back to maybe give it another shot, that's totally not news worthy.


What makes him super important to the scene? Genuine question as I'm very interested in finding out.

207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
December 07 2016 14:07 GMT
#62
On December 07 2016 23:00 klimuszko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 22:27 KadaverBB wrote:
On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote:
Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits.

Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement.


Yeah wow. Someone who was/is super important to the Starcraft scene is coming back to maybe give it another shot, that's totally not news worthy.


What makes him super important to the scene? Genuine question as I'm very interested in finding out.



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klimuszko
Profile Joined January 2016
24 Posts
December 07 2016 14:12 GMT
#63
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
689 Posts
December 07 2016 14:14 GMT
#64
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


Please just leave this thread, why do you feel the need to ruin a genuine good moment? If you don't like it, just don't open the thread and avoid comments..
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klimuszko
Profile Joined January 2016
24 Posts
December 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#65
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
December 07 2016 14:19 GMT
#66
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc).
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
December 07 2016 14:21 GMT
#67
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.


I understand the point that you're trying to make with respect to his lacking SC2 career. The reason people are as respectful and potentially excited when it comes to NonY, is that he looked more impressive in BW than any SC2 foreigner has looked in SC2.

It's impossible to tell whether determination alone will allow him to reach the same level in this game, but the potential is there.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18403 Posts
December 07 2016 14:22 GMT
#68
On December 07 2016 23:19 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc).


Wasn't some Chinese the best non Korean player?
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 14:25:31
December 07 2016 14:25 GMT
#69
On December 07 2016 23:22 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 23:19 207aicila wrote:
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc).


Wasn't some Chinese the best non Korean player?


F91 did amazing in Liquibition in head to head showmatches against those top western dudes, but then failed to deliver in pretty much every subsequent "big" / "real" tournament. So it's hard to say.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 07 2016 14:28 GMT
#70
Nony Hwaitinggggg!!
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craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
December 07 2016 14:37 GMT
#71
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.

He was one of the best foreigners in the BW scene, is a former member of the TL pro team, is an active poster on the forums and seems like an all around good guy. That's reason enough to feature the thread, despite his lack of results in SC2.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
December 07 2016 14:38 GMT
#72
On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote:
Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits.

Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement.

you may be completely right about what will happen with his career. hell, you probably are. personally i'm not even much of a fan of nony based on the way i've seen him post on the forums.

but i have to ask: what exactly are you contributing by making this post? do you feel smart? do you want nony to feel bad about himself for playing the game? do you feel entitled to something here? i just don't get what you're going for here. just feel like making people listen to you?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16701 Posts
December 07 2016 14:43 GMT
#73
people can trash the guy's SC2 career if they want... however, his feedback to Blizzard about game balance and mechanics changes is top notch.

having an additional voice of reason.. having a guy who can see the forest through the trees while providing feedback to Blizz ... is all good stuff.
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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 14:47:14
December 07 2016 14:43 GMT
#74
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.

Your idiotic logic (why play if you are not the best?) is in effect in the scene at the moment - only bunch of best players left with little to no lower level ambitious players.

If you don't care then why even read this topic? And yes, I'd personally be happy if Naama started playing again, Tarson can play again too, as well as dozens of others
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smilingjuggernaut
Profile Joined November 2016
74 Posts
December 07 2016 14:44 GMT
#75
best of luck ~
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
December 07 2016 15:10 GMT
#76
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.


I'm just saying that you are being overly negative about this thing. Nony returning is pretty cool for some of the community, so we put it in community news, that's all. It's not like we have 45 interviews and 37 photoshoots lined up.
Some of us are excited, if you are not, that's totally fine, but you don't have to be a debbie downer either!
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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
December 07 2016 15:18 GMT
#77
Welcome back. Best of luck to you.
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Daigoro
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany251 Posts
December 07 2016 16:22 GMT
#78
Good Luck good sir!
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
December 07 2016 16:27 GMT
#79
<3 ronin online <3
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FrostbitethundeR
Profile Joined April 2015
Malaysia28 Posts
December 07 2016 16:31 GMT
#80
Holy this is such a great news for the community !
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playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 16:42:35
December 07 2016 16:42 GMT
#81
On December 07 2016 23:19 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc).


Idra was the best, by far, after 2 years in Korea. If Nony was ever the best, it was short lived. He also went to Korea to be on a pro team. While you have to be amazing to even do that, how many trained in Korea? Him, idra and Ret. It was a big advantage, I'd imagine...

However, in SC 2, lots of players have done so. Everyone is talking about Nony as if he has never played SC 2 before. I don't see why so much focus is on BW, compared to what he actually did in SC 2 when he was already trying to accomplish this feat...

1) Idra couldn't qualify for WCS. 2) Nony wasn't at a WCS level when his job was to train for said things. I think Nony has great mechanics and the mind for it, but the fact I've yet to see him as a high GM on NA is concerning. Then add in a hiatus from the game? Then add in the atrocious balance for macro Toss players... lots of challenges.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
December 07 2016 16:49 GMT
#82
On December 08 2016 01:42 playa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 23:19 207aicila wrote:
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc).


Idra was the best, by far, after 2 years in Korea.


H2H says otherwise... oh wait, I remember you, you're that IdrA fanboy. Carry on.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 17:02:20
December 07 2016 16:59 GMT
#83
On December 08 2016 01:49 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 01:42 playa wrote:
On December 07 2016 23:19 207aicila wrote:
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc).


Idra was the best, by far, after 2 years in Korea.


H2H says otherwise... oh wait, I remember you, you're that IdrA fanboy. Carry on.


Idra fan boy? Even I beat Idra, after he was in Korea for years. T vs P is stupid hard. You can lose to anyone. If that H2H is even close, he's the better player in my eyes.

I like Nony. I BM with Idra every game. I have no reason to fan boy the guy. It is what it is. Both great players, but Idra reached a point where he literally didn't lose to anyone that wasn't a Korean A Teamer.

I'm not trying to hate, I just don't quite understand it. It's not like he pulled a mondragon where he simply dabbled in SC 2, so you have no idea what he might be capable of.

If you're not an aggro monkey, life is really hard for a Toss player atm. The god of ladder, Minigun, is barely even in GM now... so I have reservations.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7104 Posts
December 07 2016 17:11 GMT
#84
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.

Naama is a god so he definitely would deserve a topic
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
December 07 2016 17:16 GMT
#85
On December 08 2016 02:11 Luolis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.

Naama is a god so he definitely would deserve a topic

Rumour has it that any time naama's name is spoken anywhere in the world, luolis sits with his notebook waiting to once again learn ladder hero builds
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
December 07 2016 17:23 GMT
#86
On December 07 2016 23:00 klimuszko wrote:


What makes him super important to the scene? Genuine question as I'm very interested in finding out.



You're not being genuine or interested in finding out. You just want to trash on this thread because you don't feel its newsworthy. If you really were genuine, you wouldn't have replied with this asinine comment aftewards

Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


The sarcasm is dripping from your words.

You're being an asshole.

To some of us, Nony returning is great news. In fact, I would say many. Yes MANY TLers are happy about his return. We don't care about what he won, or his list of acheivements. We care that Tyler has always treated people with respect. He takes the time to read comments, and always address the argument. He never uses adhominem or straw man fallacies, nor does he disrespect others. I am a fan of Nony the person, not Nony the progamer.

You obviously are indifferent, but for some reason choose to be an asshole about the thread. If its not important to you, just don't comment. Honestly, I feel you should be banned for being such a douchebag, but unfortunately I am not a mod.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
December 07 2016 17:34 GMT
#87
NonY returning would definitely make me more interested in actually following the scene. He's from the old guard of professionals I actually felt a connection to and followed when I was aspiring to get good at the game. Alas, I topped out at top 8 diamond :p
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SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France897 Posts
December 07 2016 17:41 GMT
#88
DO IT ! :D
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rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
December 07 2016 17:47 GMT
#89
On December 07 2016 23:21 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.


I understand the point that you're trying to make with respect to his lacking SC2 career. The reason people are as respectful and potentially excited when it comes to NonY, is that he looked more impressive in BW than any SC2 foreigner has looked in SC2.

It's impossible to tell whether determination alone will allow him to reach the same level in this game, but the potential is there.


wtf... that's not true. yea he had an okay courage run but his peak wasn't even the highest foreigner peak in bw whereas sc2 foreigners have legitimately been in the running for the best in the world at points?
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 17:53:49
December 07 2016 17:52 GMT
#90
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


Idra? Is this your smurf account? Still active? ;-P

Good luck NonY
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
December 07 2016 17:54 GMT
#91
On December 07 2016 15:08 a_flayer wrote:
I don't see it happening, he hasn't particularly impressed me at any point in his SC2 career. Too many young dedicated kids that are far more competitive than him. Best of luck tho.


Same. I wish him the best but I'm not sure he's got what it takes to make it in SC2.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
December 07 2016 18:07 GMT
#92
He can do it.

See you at Blizzcon NonY
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
December 07 2016 18:26 GMT
#93
I'm incredibly pumped about this news - Love NonY!
moose...indian
klimuszko
Profile Joined January 2016
24 Posts
December 07 2016 18:38 GMT
#94
I see some of you take some questions and a bit of sarcasm, a little bit to yourself.

To straight things out.

I've heard of Nony as I watch the scene since wol. My point wasn't to attack anybody. I checked tl bw/sc2 sites, 5 noticable places in bw tournaments, some ro's in sc2, googled to find out he was once suspended while being in teamliquid, and was just surprised. What's the big deal about that he's coming back.

Now I know a bit more, thanks to some who actually cared to response in a normal manner instead of dropping link to bw tournament that happened 7 years ago.

And I'm happy as usual that some people still come to this game and try, with it's current state as we all know it. I would LOVE for Naama to comeback, finals vs mana on that first dh were awesome! Comparison was just to point out my point of view.

Cheers
PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
December 07 2016 18:41 GMT
#95
On December 08 2016 03:38 klimuszko wrote:
I see some of you take some questions and a bit of sarcasm, a little bit to yourself.

To straight things out.

I've heard of Nony as I watch the scene since wol. My point wasn't to attack anybody. I checked tl bw/sc2 sites, 5 noticable places in bw tournaments, some ro's in sc2, googled to find out he was once suspended while being in teamliquid, and was just surprised. What's the big deal about that he's coming back.

Now I know a bit more, thanks to some who actually cared to response in a normal manner instead of dropping link to bw tournament that happened 7 years ago.

And I'm happy as usual that some people still come to this game and try, with it's current state as we all know it. I would LOVE for Naama to comeback, finals vs mana on that first dh were awesome! Comparison was just to point out my point of view.

Cheers


His results aside, he was and is part of the liquid family with many fans liking him so why not he could try again?
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StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
December 07 2016 18:48 GMT
#96
not read any of the previous posts but as someone who has followed the scene even before tl was the main goto for sc2, nony didnt do anything! Im pretty sure he was on tl (quite literally writing from memory here but im insta responding to the headline) and he won a tournament around the beta or at least in the first year of the game.

Nony only came up on any radar was when he beat idra i think, but at that time everyone was super pissed off with protoss and dare i say it, it nearly was the death of the game there and then but then something happened with the queens and zerg started to come back.

I seemed to remember everyone hating drops and not knowing how to deal . . . .they didnt have a fucking goFast button then!

im responding because the game is literally in bad shape at the minute, and then someone who didnt do anything is coming back? Back to what? and i just cant bare to scroll up and see all the <3 nonY fucking messages. I do wish him well but i think the best of this game is certainly behind us now
klimuszko
Profile Joined January 2016
24 Posts
December 07 2016 18:49 GMT
#97
He should if he wishes, nobody can't stop him, and I wish him all the luck! But it's gonna be very, very hard to do. To get at blizzcon? Look at top8 from world, all world class players who practice since a loooooooong time.
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7104 Posts
December 07 2016 18:49 GMT
#98
On December 08 2016 02:16 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2016 02:11 Luolis wrote:
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.

Naama is a god so he definitely would deserve a topic

Rumour has it that any time naama's name is spoken anywhere in the world, luolis sits with his notebook waiting to once again learn ladder hero builds

The rumour may, or may not be true
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AVirtualGigolo
Profile Joined December 2016
12 Posts
December 07 2016 18:52 GMT
#99
He better start hitting that training hard. I always loved watching Tyler do well and hope he can break through to blizzcon. It's a monumental task.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
December 07 2016 19:05 GMT
#100
This is Yuge!!! Finally something good is happening in 2016 :D
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19234 Posts
December 07 2016 19:17 GMT
#101
  • Nony has been a great contributor to TL throughout SC1 and SC2
  • Nony has been very open in his blogs about his success in SC1 vs SC2 and his state of mind around the time he switched to SC2
  • Nony, like millions of other people mentally struggled through part of his life and took a break from games he loved to find himself and really get control of his life and happiness
  • Nony is a legit great person and treats everyone around him really well


If these points aren't good enough to be excited about a member of the Teamliquid family, then you're missing the entire point of this website.
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coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
December 07 2016 19:39 GMT
#102
I'm hyped to see it and I hope he pulls it off.
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
December 07 2016 20:23 GMT
#103
Wow I haven't followed Nony since, like, 2012? Wonder what he's been up to (besides drinking Permafrost Vodka).
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
December 07 2016 20:26 GMT
#104
Whether he manages Blizzcon or not doesn't matter to me. What matters is that he is trying to do it.

We all know how difficult his journey is going to be, and there are many skeptics (albeit with good reason). But its the journey that is most important. Even if he bombs or doesn't come close to qualifying, the fact that he is trying is the most admiral part.

Given the opportunity to try for Blizzcon, would any of you do it knowing the road will be riddled with difficulties? That is why I am happy to hear Nony is back on the horse.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 07 2016 20:28 GMT
#105
On December 07 2016 19:10 Jealous wrote:
So Liquid.NonY on ICCup is not Nony? ):

That is Talent a protons player. Anyways Good Luck Nony!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 20:50:59
December 07 2016 20:50 GMT
#106
Some people forget that Nony was very strong during SC2 WoL beta as well. It's good that he's going to play again.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11350 Posts
December 07 2016 20:53 GMT
#107
On December 08 2016 03:38 klimuszko wrote:
I see some of you take some questions and a bit of sarcasm, a little bit to yourself.

To straight things out.

I've heard of Nony as I watch the scene since wol. My point wasn't to attack anybody. I checked tl bw/sc2 sites, 5 noticable places in bw tournaments, some ro's in sc2, googled to find out he was once suspended while being in teamliquid, and was just surprised. What's the big deal about that he's coming back.

Now I know a bit more, thanks to some who actually cared to response in a normal manner instead of dropping link to bw tournament that happened 7 years ago.

And I'm happy as usual that some people still come to this game and try, with it's current state as we all know it. I would LOVE for Naama to comeback, finals vs mana on that first dh were awesome! Comparison was just to point out my point of view.

Cheers

You say that, but you came into the thread pretty heavy. We could thank you next time to inquire politely first rather than: "shots fired" in your opening comments. Perhaps a less confrontational approach would more quickly garner you a more informative response.
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deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
December 07 2016 21:02 GMT
#108
Hmmm...pretty excited for this, always liked the guy even though I came into the scene long after BW.
Never could stand rooting for a toss though.....
Nothing worth having comes easy.
prabuty
Profile Joined October 2016
Poland26 Posts
December 07 2016 21:22 GMT
#109
That's really nice that people are setting long-term goals for themselves but is Nony going to be full time with this endeavour or is he gonna do this in addition to having a regular job if he has any? I don't think it's even close to being feasible that at an age of 30 someone wants to be top 16 in such a competitve world where everyone else is full time...
HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
December 07 2016 21:25 GMT
#110
Nony was and still is my favorite foreigner; I still remember his Courage run. Amazing.
AdministratorNot actually Hawaiian.
Prophanity
Profile Joined January 2012
United States165 Posts
December 07 2016 21:46 GMT
#111
So we still have that thing were anyone who isn't Korean is a "foreigner" eh?
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 22:09:05
December 07 2016 22:08 GMT
#112
#tlwin

This is awesome! I really hope he makes it!

On December 08 2016 06:46 Prophanity wrote:
So we still have that thing were anyone who isn't Korean is a "foreigner" eh?

Yeah. A buddy who organizes local tournaments in Toronto even says: "yeah we've got some good foreigners coming by!"
when he talks about guys like MaSa attending.
kiss kiss fall in love
LtCalley
Profile Joined March 2011
United States244 Posts
December 07 2016 22:49 GMT
#113
WB tyler. i still rofl at the SotG where you talk about horses
"No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you" - Homer Simpson
Matroid_Prime
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada59 Posts
December 07 2016 23:17 GMT
#114
Happy to see your return NonY - Been reading your blogs and excited. Even though you stopped before I started watching you have always been held in high regard by much of the community. Good luck!
Lifelong fan of Starcraft
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain880 Posts
December 07 2016 23:31 GMT
#115
WOW Tyler! This is great news!
I wish you all success, hope you achieve your dream.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
December 07 2016 23:43 GMT
#116
NONY HWAITING!!!!
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
December 08 2016 00:10 GMT
#117
I hope he uses the negative shitters in this thread as motivation to do well. Anyone who can do what he did in Brood War has a huge shot at doing what he wants to do IMO.
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
December 08 2016 01:27 GMT
#118
On December 08 2016 04:17 BisuDagger wrote:
  • Nony has been a great contributor to TL throughout SC1 and SC2
  • Nony has been very open in his blogs about his success in SC1 vs SC2 and his state of mind around the time he switched to SC2
  • Nony, like millions of other people mentally struggled through part of his life and took a break from games he loved to find himself and really get control of his life and happiness
  • Nony is a legit great person and treats everyone around him really well


If these points aren't good enough to be excited about a member of the Teamliquid family, then you're missing the entire point of this website.

Word.

GO NONY.

p.s. how do I get a visa to bisutopia? thx
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 08 2016 01:34 GMT
#119
He's legit one of the nicest people. His stream was awesome. I hope he achieves his goals. If he streams I will definitely watch.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 02:38:32
December 08 2016 02:37 GMT
#120
Ohhh yeeeaaaah! The best foreigner of all time is back!
https://soundcloud.com/bbols
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 08 2016 02:43 GMT
#121
NonY is one of the big reasons I got into BroodWar to begin with. I stumbled across some FPVod he made in 2007 and thought whoah this game is way more complex than I realized and that's when I started getting attached to TL.

Would be a dream come true to see him at BlizzCon for me too!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Hexe
Profile Joined August 2014
United States332 Posts
December 08 2016 02:58 GMT
#122
sick city. gl hf
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 03:59:56
December 08 2016 03:37 GMT
#123
hell yeah i am super excited. gl HF

+ Show Spoiler +
one of my favorite games of all time:
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 03:53:51
December 08 2016 03:44 GMT
#124
NonY says - NonY does! What a badass who's not afraid to play vs. top kids on his 30's! He gonna conqueror foreign scene. See you at next Blizzcon!
sunbeams are never made like me...
Garuga
Profile Joined June 2015
49 Posts
December 08 2016 04:06 GMT
#125
Tight. Someone with an actual personality to root for.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 08 2016 04:15 GMT
#126
Always liked watching Tylelr's stream. Go Nony!
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 08 2016 06:18 GMT
#127
Why NonY is great you ask???


Samba
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany452 Posts
December 08 2016 06:25 GMT
#128
Has he already said something about this?
Anyways, super excited too, GO NonY, we´re gonna cheer for you!
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TequilaMockingbird
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany64 Posts
December 08 2016 08:53 GMT
#129
Cool stuff, Nony has always been a really likeable character but Blizzcon... like stated by other above, I am pretty sceptical.
Too many young killer nerds like Neeb, Marinelord, uThermal + seasoned veterans like Snute or Scarlett out there.
I would be surprised if he even makes it anywhere close to the cut off line tbh.

But lets not be too pessimistic here, all the best to Nony and lets see how far he can go !

btw a little off-topic, but does anyone know what happened to Bunny ? Is he taking a break from the game ?
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 08 2016 14:54 GMT
#130
Nony2017- Believe
TL+ Member
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
December 08 2016 17:38 GMT
#131
Best of luck Tyler.
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mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
December 08 2016 17:46 GMT
#132
the champ is here
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
December 08 2016 20:41 GMT
#133
for anyone interested, NonY showcases his laddering rite now
on twitch <3

come and see fo yourself what the fuss is about
"not enough rights"
ch1ppr
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden123 Posts
December 08 2016 22:40 GMT
#134
who?

User was warned for this post
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
December 08 2016 23:12 GMT
#135
dat. hype.
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44317 Posts
December 09 2016 05:45 GMT
#136
Good luck
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16701 Posts
December 09 2016 07:00 GMT
#137
as Nony rises through the ladder i see a collision course with a certain loud-mouthed carnival-barker who represents the anti-thesis of all the things Nony stands for...
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
AC3
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada337 Posts
December 09 2016 11:34 GMT
#138
NonY! Favorite Protoss has returned, can't wait to watch.
"The idea is to try to give all of the information to help others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information that leads to judgment in one particular direction or another" -- Richard Feynman
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
December 09 2016 14:25 GMT
#139
Good luck nony your going to need it
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
December 09 2016 14:28 GMT
#140
On December 09 2016 16:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
as Nony rises through the ladder i see a collision course with a certain loud-mouthed carnival-barker who represents the anti-thesis of all the things Nony stands for...


There's only one? Or have the others moved onto more suitable toxic games when I stopped paying attention?
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
TL+ Member
n3p
Profile Blog Joined July 2016
93 Posts
December 09 2016 15:37 GMT
#141
LET'S GO! NONY!
This is a fucking joke. Fuck you. - RIP IdrA
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
December 09 2016 16:12 GMT
#142
Stoked to read this! Nony is a stand out representative of the esports culture IMO. He's professional, intelligent, respectful, mature, and hilarious too. He is an exemplar of the best qualities of our community and an example to the rest of the world that having a passion for video games doesn't make you an anti-social tv trope.

To those complaining that any of us care about his return, its no different than being excited about seeing someone like White-Ra play. Its not always just about results.

In all of sports people find individuals whose personalities and life stories resonate with their own personalities and experiences and feel a connection to that individual and a desire to see them succeed in whatever degree is meaningful to that individual. A lot of us felt a strong kinship with Nony from both his broodwar years and from his time in the SC2 public spotlight. For many people I'm sure the story of what he has been dealing with in his personal life has only amplified that connection. To see him come back to the community is exciting to us. We don't know if he can achieve what he's claiming he's set out to do, but we are excited to see him try regardless of whether he succeeds or not, because we as a community have come to care about him as a person, not just his success.
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
December 09 2016 16:42 GMT
#143
On December 09 2016 16:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
as Nony rises through the ladder i see a collision course with a certain loud-mouthed carnival-barker who represents the anti-thesis of all the things Nony stands for...

I'm sure I'm gonna lose some games on stream to some unsavory types. It's fine, I'll just learn from it and queue again and they can make of it whatever they want.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
AnathemAbw
Profile Joined October 2016
23 Posts
December 09 2016 18:33 GMT
#144
NonY I hope you can prove a lot of people wrong, you haven't had the motivation to take it all the way in the past, best of luck to you.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-09 19:31:58
December 09 2016 19:29 GMT
#145
On December 10 2016 03:33 AnathemAbw wrote:
you haven't had the motivation to take it all the way in the past


what the fuck... ok time to stop reading this shit
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Prolet
Profile Joined July 2012
United States37 Posts
December 09 2016 20:39 GMT
#146
We have to remember that people post on forums anonymously and without any real repercussions (worst thing that can happen is you get banned, not really a punishment IMO). So you have to take what people say with a grain of salt.

There is no doubt in my mind that this is worthy of a thread, NonY. You have contributed a lot to TL and to the SC2 community. All the noteworthy interactions you have had with your teammates and the community, seen and unseen. I saw on your Twitter you placed highly in a half-marathon awhile back, so no doubt you are capable of accomplishing great things. And I look forward to watching you in the future.

Remember that every peak has a valley, so try not to get too up or down mentally at any time, about what some person says. Keep a consistent intensity going. Anyway, that's all I wanted to say. All the best going forward!
IronWolf
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
South Africa315 Posts
December 09 2016 21:27 GMT
#147
Welcome back NonY. Always appreciated your character and dedication to the game. Your BW vods really got so many of us into the game again and I have no doubt your presence will only be good for the scene. glhf
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
December 09 2016 21:32 GMT
#148
On December 10 2016 04:29 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 03:33 AnathemAbw wrote:
you haven't had the motivation to take it all the way in the past


what the fuck... ok time to stop reading this shit


What a beautiful summary of the internet
Cereal
mangomango
Profile Joined September 2009
United States265 Posts
December 09 2016 21:47 GMT
#149
Nony? Can Idra be far behind? Grudge match of the century. Good luck Nony. Maybe iNcontroL can be your drill thrall.
Husky: Every drone you lose is like a needle in the eye. Nony: probes win $10k (Earn it! Idra Fighting) :P
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
December 09 2016 21:54 GMT
#150
2017, Year of NONY!!!! I believe!

So pumped to see this announcement.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
December 10 2016 00:21 GMT
#151
Hey NonY do you have a stream schedule? I know you might want to practice in private (e.g. hide builds etc.) but how about streaming? I would love to watch you stream.
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
December 10 2016 01:25 GMT
#152
Welcome back.

Long time fan, I still have your TSL games against Mondragon saved on my external HDD somewhere, best of luck.
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
December 10 2016 01:30 GMT
#153
mmmmh that's some good shit, happy to see you again nony

now we need to bring state of the game back
bisu
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 10 2016 01:33 GMT
#154
Lmao, long time Liquid player and personality returns to the game and gets a bunch of "EH IDK HE WAS NEVER THAT GOOD"

Cool to see you back in action Nony, I haven't watched in years but you were always one of my favorite players back in the WoL days.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 10 2016 01:37 GMT
#155
On December 10 2016 06:32 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 04:29 NonY wrote:
On December 10 2016 03:33 AnathemAbw wrote:
you haven't had the motivation to take it all the way in the past


what the fuck... ok time to stop reading this shit


What a beautiful summary of the internet


If people want to be a public figure then they should recognize that they are putting themselves out there for public scrutiny. Not saying this in a hateful way, just being realistic and fair.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
December 10 2016 01:53 GMT
#156
On December 10 2016 10:37 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2016 06:32 InfCereal wrote:
On December 10 2016 04:29 NonY wrote:
On December 10 2016 03:33 AnathemAbw wrote:
you haven't had the motivation to take it all the way in the past


what the fuck... ok time to stop reading this shit


What a beautiful summary of the internet


If people want to be a public figure then they should recognize that they are putting themselves out there for public scrutiny. Not saying this in a hateful way, just being realistic and fair.

You must agree that some of the comments made here are far from scrutiny.
TL+ Member
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
December 10 2016 02:14 GMT
#157
Love you Nony!!!!! Will cheer so hard for you. Gogo Nony vs Nerchio Blizzcon 2017 finals
paxconsciente
Profile Joined January 2015
Belgium91 Posts
December 10 2016 05:37 GMT
#158
I sincerely hope i'm wrong when I say that Nony competing at a high level consistently and coming close to winning even a single tournament, never mind getting enough points to qualify for blizzcon is extremely unlikely. As far as i'm concerned, it's like a master or low grandmaster player saying they want to try out going professional for a year. That's fine, but they haven't done anything since this game came out, and players are so insanely good now without even trying that they would need to practice twice as much as anyone else just to retain a similar level of skill.

Once again, I hope i'm wrong.
Goodluck, Nony.
The best way to predict the future is to create it - Peter Drucker. <3 so0,ret,JD,Happy,Innovation,Snute
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
December 10 2016 06:13 GMT
#159
Even if I had a chance to be progamer, there is no way I would choose SC2. I love it, but not enough to risk my career. I'd probably play Hearthstone or OW.

Given an opportunity to pursue any career I wanted for one year, I would not choose SC2 as my career path.
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa975 Posts
December 10 2016 08:07 GMT
#160
I m still sad that they made Tylers Tweet a news here at TeamLiquid. I m a fan and get the exictement, but I think it would have been more fair to just wait what happens...
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
December 11 2016 18:24 GMT
#161
This is still the same guy who almost made it through Courage on his first run, falling short 1-2 in the finals. If he's determined enough to make it he probably will.

GL NonY!
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
December 11 2016 18:33 GMT
#162
On December 10 2016 15:13 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Even if I had a chance to be progamer, there is no way I would choose SC2. I love it, but not enough to risk my career. I'd probably play Hearthstone or OW.

Given an opportunity to pursue any career I wanted for one year, I would not choose SC2 as my career path.

Since when do you choose a game you want to play based on how feasible it is as a career? He'll play what he wants
TL+ Member
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 20:02:47
December 11 2016 20:02 GMT
#163
Glad to hear he's planning on making another run, and I'll cheer him on as always!
In Inca we trust
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
December 11 2016 22:20 GMT
#164
aQuaSC, I never implied nor said he can't or can play what he wants. I said that I wouldn't choose it myself only because I know its much harder than a lot of other games out there.

It's one of the reasons I am stoked about NonY doing it. I have another SC2 fan to cheer for. Honestly, I was losing interest because of HS and OW. NonY is bringing the passion back in me.
Mengmeng
Profile Joined December 2015
12 Posts
December 11 2016 22:26 GMT
#165
Come back when there is less competition so you even have a chance. lol.

User was banned for this post.
RubberDucky88
Profile Joined December 2016
1 Post
Last Edited: 2016-12-11 22:49:13
December 11 2016 22:48 GMT
#166
i dont even watch sc2 anymore but made an account just to show how much i support you tyler. you fucking got this! its gonna get rough but your gonna pull through, your gonna lose to bs cheese time and time again and get frustrated, you're gonna make silly mistakes multiple times and lose, pissing yourself off in the process and probably feel like giving up. nonetheless NonY will prevail and become the powerhouse he was destined to be!


GL i will be keeping an eye on you :D
ThreeSixDrew
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada183 Posts
December 12 2016 00:19 GMT
#167
The man is a competitor at heart. Many people don't know he quickly became a competitive endurance athlete and has been very successful at it. He's got the drive and discipline.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
December 12 2016 00:58 GMT
#168
Haven't watched SC2 in years but would tune in for the one and only Nony
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
CryovaK
Profile Joined May 2016
4 Posts
December 12 2016 03:45 GMT
#169
fucking aye, i was just wondering what hapened to Nony :D
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 13 2016 19:39 GMT
#170
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 13 2016 20:13 GMT
#171
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 13 2016 21:33 GMT
#172
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
December 13 2016 21:41 GMT
#173
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?

point is that it doesnt have to be a financially good move i guess
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Splynn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States225 Posts
December 13 2016 21:59 GMT
#174
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?


In Nony's original tweet he talks about wanting to do it and it being a personal goal to go to Blizzcon. Nowhere does he say "I am doing this because it will be a great financial move." Maybe judge people less? Him returning to SC2 doesn't negatively affect you, and it's totally up to him. Quit being so negative for no good reason.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
December 14 2016 00:01 GMT
#175
On December 14 2016 06:59 Splynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?


In Nony's original tweet he talks about wanting to do it and it being a personal goal to go to Blizzcon. Nowhere does he say "I am doing this because it will be a great financial move." Maybe judge people less? Him returning to SC2 doesn't negatively affect you, and it's totally up to him. Quit being so negative for no good reason.


He is right though, SC2 isn't that popular. That said, it depends if Nony wants competition more than money.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 14 2016 08:21 GMT
#176
So i decided to check up on what's been happening in the SC world since i stopped following everything, and the first thing i see is NonY making a comeback, wow!

Arbiterssssssssss
We make signature, then defense it.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 14 2016 08:58 GMT
#177
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?


are you the guy who goes to mcdonalds and tell the cashiers "wow you know actually this food isn't that healthy"?
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 14 2016 16:18 GMT
#178
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?

You're saying returning to SC2 is a bad decision purely because it's a bad financial one, which everyone including Nony knows. You said you can't reach top-level if it's 'just a hobby' which I interpreted 'you have to play full-time to reach top-level', even though Nony may have enough money to play full-time for a year without making a dollar from SC2. It's pretty silly for you to assume Nony didn't use his brain when deciding to return, and rude to be so dismissive of somebody obviously following their passion.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 14 2016 16:35 GMT
#179
On December 15 2016 01:18 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?

You're saying returning to SC2 is a bad decision purely because it's a bad financial one, which everyone including Nony knows. You said you can't reach top-level if it's 'just a hobby' which I interpreted 'you have to play full-time to reach top-level', even though Nony may have enough money to play full-time for a year without making a dollar from SC2. It's pretty silly for you to assume Nony didn't use his brain when deciding to return, and rude to be so dismissive of somebody obviously following their passion.


it's pretty honest of him to just name the financial situation of a sc2 progamer as he perceives it. Then again, it's a bit of a no-brainer i admit. I don't think he tries to be dismissive about nony's passion, when he saying "Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2"

But it surely is no reason not to come back. Plenty of folks play their favorite game still/came back whit a lot of dedication and zero monetary incentive.
Broodwar for life!
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 14 2016 19:13 GMT
#180
lol i was going to stop responding because people apparently don't like to acknowledge reality.

so i'll just say this, remember your snide holier than though responses to this post months from now, as team X,Y,Z announces disbanding and player A,B,C announce the switch to coaching a LoL team. Although I guess with EG disbanding their sc2 squad there really aren't any big teams to disband anymore. Team liquid is still around, but i'm not sure how many players on their roster are actually still active.

Even if it were naniwa or stephano who had way more success in sc2 than nony did announcing a return, i'd have the same response. it makes way more sense for nony to either go back to BW like many pros are, where he actually had legit success, or move on to LoL or DOTA where there's actual money
Splynn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States225 Posts
December 14 2016 19:32 GMT
#181
On December 15 2016 04:13 fishjie wrote:
lol i was going to stop responding because people apparently don't like to acknowledge reality.

so i'll just say this, remember your snide holier than though responses to this post months from now, as team X,Y,Z announces disbanding and player A,B,C announce the switch to coaching a LoL team. Although I guess with EG disbanding their sc2 squad there really aren't any big teams to disband anymore. Team liquid is still around, but i'm not sure how many players on their roster are actually still active.

Even if it were naniwa or stephano who had way more success in sc2 than nony did announcing a return, i'd have the same response. it makes way more sense for nony to either go back to BW like many pros are, where he actually had legit success, or move on to LoL or DOTA where there's actual money



Did you actually read what the responses were? Did anybody, as a response to you, state that they thought SC2 was in a great state, or that they thought it was the best game to enter from a financial perspective?

You're just doom and glooming for no reason. Everyone here, as best I can tell, agrees with you that SC2 could be in a better state. But there's no point bringing it up here, because it's completely irrelevant to the topic. Had Nony said "I am returning to SC2 because I want to make a million dollars", then maybe your comments would actually have some merit.

Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 14 2016 23:03 GMT
#182
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.


He's taking a break from Helya Mythic progression, that's why :p

jk jk, good luck Nony.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
December 15 2016 00:14 GMT
#183
On December 15 2016 04:32 Splynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2016 04:13 fishjie wrote:
lol i was going to stop responding because people apparently don't like to acknowledge reality.

so i'll just say this, remember your snide holier than though responses to this post months from now, as team X,Y,Z announces disbanding and player A,B,C announce the switch to coaching a LoL team. Although I guess with EG disbanding their sc2 squad there really aren't any big teams to disband anymore. Team liquid is still around, but i'm not sure how many players on their roster are actually still active.

Even if it were naniwa or stephano who had way more success in sc2 than nony did announcing a return, i'd have the same response. it makes way more sense for nony to either go back to BW like many pros are, where he actually had legit success, or move on to LoL or DOTA where there's actual money



Did you actually read what the responses were? Did anybody, as a response to you, state that they thought SC2 was in a great state, or that they thought it was the best game to enter from a financial perspective?

You're just doom and glooming for no reason. Everyone here, as best I can tell, agrees with you that SC2 could be in a better state. But there's no point bringing it up here, because it's completely irrelevant to the topic. Had Nony said "I am returning to SC2 because I want to make a million dollars", then maybe your comments would actually have some merit.



Attacking a point no-one made is the forum brawler's foremost weapon. Calling everyone kid being the second.
I think esports is pretty nice.
lastprobeALIVE
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States973 Posts
December 15 2016 00:58 GMT
#184
how legit is this eports character with his one post....

tbh nony is very smart, and has good mechanics.
when in doubt DT out
lagcats
Profile Joined February 2016
172 Posts
December 15 2016 02:53 GMT
#185
gl tyler.
http://www.twitter.com/lagcats <---> http://www.twitch.tv/lagcats Challenger League of Legends player.
Fonze
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
United States34 Posts
December 15 2016 04:03 GMT
#186
If it applies, I have a very old PM with NonY...no idea what we were talking about;
it's from 2006.
Fonzerelli. On teamliquid since 2004. Finally back. Sup!!
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa975 Posts
January 15 2017 14:05 GMT
#187
Hi Guys, just a quick heads up:

https://www.twitch.tv/nony

Nony has started streaming again. No fixed schedule, so best to subscribe or follow if you want some protoss action!
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 15 2017 14:26 GMT
#188
i really like reading this. and i immediately got SOTG flashbacks, i need that show in my life! have recently been watching a lot of best-ofs and stuff actually. there's a lot of content on youtube.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
ThreeSixDrew
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada183 Posts
February 01 2017 02:31 GMT
#189
Has anyone noticed if Nony is practicing?
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
February 01 2017 02:39 GMT
#190
On February 01 2017 11:31 ThreeSixDrew wrote:
Has anyone noticed if Nony is practicing?


he has definitely been playing. he's been streaming some of his games on ladder every now and then.
moose...indian
Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
February 01 2017 02:52 GMT
#191
Blizzcon doesn't seem super realistic, but hey, who am I to say he can't. Always an awesome guy to have around, either way. Welcome back
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16701 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 03:11:53
February 01 2017 03:07 GMT
#192
Well the names have all changed since you hung around
But those dreams have remained and they've turned around
Who'd have thought they'd lead ya
Back here where we need ya

Yeah we tease him a lot 'cause we got him on the spot
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back
We always could spot a friend, welcome back
And I smile when I think how you must have been
And I know what a scene you were learning in
Was there something that made you come back again
And what could ever lead ya
Back here where we need ya

Welcome Back


Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
February 01 2017 03:10 GMT
#193
Nony Hwaiting!!!!!!!!
TL+ Member
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
February 01 2017 06:15 GMT
#194
On December 14 2016 17:58 Heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2016 06:33 fishjie wrote:
On December 14 2016 05:13 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 14 2016 04:39 fishjie wrote:
Fan of Nony from SOTG, but just don't think it makes sense for anyone to try to come back to SC2. The viewership numbers just aren't there, teams are disbanding, players are all retiring. Everyone else has already moved on to MOBAs, coaching or casting. Not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. Could be fine as a hobby, but can't be good enough to reach top level if its just a hobby.

How do you know so much about Nony's financial situation?


Uh what does this have to do with anyone's specific financial situation? Its not a good move financially to be pro at sc2. There are no viewers, which means no individual sponsors, and which means the few remaining teams (which are pretty much all disbanded) have low salaries. Not a good move. How is this not clear from my post?


are you the guy who goes to mcdonalds and tell the cashiers "wow you know actually this food isn't that healthy"?


what if he buys a kale salad (WITH NO SAUCE) and then says that
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
February 01 2017 06:19 GMT
#195
Yesssssss!!! Such a level headed guy
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands677 Posts
February 01 2017 07:41 GMT
#196
Nony was also the first person ever to call out horses on them having no soul! That's how smart he is!

(Busted, horses! Busted!)
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
Kong95
Profile Joined January 2017
17 Posts
February 01 2017 09:33 GMT
#197
Awesome!
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa975 Posts
February 01 2017 09:37 GMT
#198
On February 01 2017 11:39 reneg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 11:31 ThreeSixDrew wrote:
Has anyone noticed if Nony is practicing?


he has definitely been playing. he's been streaming some of his games on ladder every now and then.


Yes, that is that. Its nice watching him stream and ladder. Solid stuff.
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
February 01 2017 18:18 GMT
#199
Didn't nony place second at the san francisco half marathon a year or 2 ago? If he can do that, a starcraft comeback should be a cake walk.
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
February 01 2017 18:31 GMT
#200
Hopefully his depression is under control and he can stay physically/mentally healthy. Dont like sc2 at all, but I do like nony, I hope hes well.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
DudeMan260
Profile Joined February 2017
United States17 Posts
February 03 2017 06:04 GMT
#201
Best of luck Nony! You were always fun to watch
The moment you think you've learned everything is the moment you stop learning.
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa975 Posts
February 03 2017 07:10 GMT
#202
On February 02 2017 03:31 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Hopefully his depression is under control and he can stay physically/mentally healthy. Dont like sc2 at all, but I do like nony, I hope hes well.


He stated in his last interview that at the moment everything is ok regarding that,
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