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EG.Jaedong: Greatness Defined
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EG.Jaedong: Greatness DefinedNovember 1st, 2016 22:07 GMT
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
I don’t think anyone can change the passing of the seasons (laughs). A lot of time has flowed by, and I need to think about my life going forward. Whatever I end up doing, I’ll do it while remaining thankful that I remained in the minds of some fans. I’d be thankful if when people think of StarCraft, they remembered that there was once a player called Jaedong. That's so sad to me  People will remember you and if they don't i will be there to remember them  I wish JD the best, no matter what he does now, hopefully no OW though hehe | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On November 02 2016 07:17 The_Red_Viper wrote: That's so sad to me People will remember you and if they don't i will be there to remember them I wish JD the best, no matter what he does now, hopefully no OW though hehe he did what few did : being remembered in the holy esport hall of fame | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Too bad his career does not end on a high and that 2016 was so weird, but hopefully we will see him again in the future somewhere, somehow. | ||
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Kashim
Poland1210 Posts
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On November 02 2016 07:22 Makro wrote: he did what few did : being remembered in the holy esport hall of fame You mean the Pantheon of Nerd Gods. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3463 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
I wish the writer[s] were listed though | ||
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Jeremy Reimer
Canada1061 Posts
Jaedong was and is, and will forever be, my favorite Starcraft player of all time. His dedication and focus and desire to win at all costs was inspiring. I will never forget that there was a player named Jaedong, and that in my heart, he was the greatest player of all time. In 2011 I made this image in Photoshop to be sent to him as inspiration as part of a package started on TL by a fan in a thread called "A Zergling for Jaedong". I hope he remembers it. I'm no artist, but he inspired me so much that I had to make something. Fare thee well, Jaedong. May the wings of a thousand mutalisks fly you to your next adventure. ![[image loading]](http://jeremyreimer.com/uploads/Jaedong-poster-Jeremy-Reimer.jpg) | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
I think Savior: Lord of the Battlefield Part Two was the last one right? Anyhow amazing work. Jaedong will be missed. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
The interview was great, the text also. Thanks EG/TL. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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Jealous
10234 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
I will for sure always remember Jaedong. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 02 2016 09:12 KeksX wrote: This hit me harder than ProLeague disbanding. This article is bittersweet; it's greatly written. Thanks! I will for sure always remember Jaedong. Yeah it's weird, i knew it was coming, everybody knew. Still the moment i read this, the article and the interview i was extremely sad. Probably more sad than about PL, weird | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
Thanks for your dedication and all the great games. Goood luck in the future! We love you \o/ | ||
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LittLeLives
United States692 Posts
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yubo56
690 Posts
Can't wait to see him on Afreeca, if he ends up there. Maybe if he shows up, FlaSh won't be 20% higher than everybody else in winrate... Also, he's so freaking cute | ||
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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50585 Posts
Lee Jae Dong. | ||
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Kag
5 Posts
At which point did SC2 start loosing popularity in Korea? With premier BW tournaments coming back Is BW taking over SC2 in Korea or what?? | ||
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
Thank you for everything, Jaedong. The greatest Zerg in StarCraft history. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On November 02 2016 10:10 Kag wrote: "StarCraft 2 was getting smaller" At which point did SC2 start loosing popularity in Korea? With premier BW tournaments coming back Is BW taking over SC2 in Korea or what?? Lots of Koreans have retired for several reasons and I rather not make a list as people might bitch & moan. Naysayers. There are a lot of variables. | ||
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlfe/jaedong/ Is this real? Final Edits, wohoo! Hope this is a sign that TL writers will pump more FE articles Welp, thia chapter of 'The Tyrant' has closed and I hope to see JD again in BW/other games. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
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Sheridan
60 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On November 02 2016 11:02 travis wrote: That last paragraph of the interview gave me goosebumps Same <3 And some tears in my eyes hehe | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Shame he never recovered his flame from the second half of 2013 in sc2. He started that year being the butt of many jokes, but ended it rivaling Soulkey, soO, and Life as the best Zerg in the world. | ||
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iSometric
2221 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16009 Posts
On November 02 2016 11:40 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Shame he never recovered his flame from the second half of 2013 in sc2. He started that year being the butt of many jokes, but ended it rivaling Soulkey, soO, and Life as the best Zerg in the world. soO was irrelevant in 2013 and Life wasn't really dominant either. he was definitely the 2nd best zerg in 2013 behind Soulkey. | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6773 Posts
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Cashling
United States49 Posts
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
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Kingsky
Singapore298 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7593 Posts
Talking about the 2007 MSL but not including the signature EE HAN TIMING! + Show Spoiler + | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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baiesradu
Romania150 Posts
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Kitai
United States878 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18524 Posts
A legend | ||
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Weryeery
288 Posts
Only hardcore Flash fans think the power outage decision is controversial Welcolme back in BW JD | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16009 Posts
On November 02 2016 15:21 sharkie wrote: The only player who at one point in time was regarded the best player in both SC1 and SC2. A legend Flash was regarded by many as the best SC2 player after his IEM Toronto win. probably even more so than Jaedong, when was Jaedong considered the best? | ||
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sharkie
Austria18524 Posts
On November 02 2016 15:49 Charoisaur wrote: Flash was regarded by many as the best SC2 player after his IEM Toronto win. probably even more so than Jaedong, when was Jaedong considered the best? When he beat Dear and Maru. Who thought Flash is the best after his Toronto win? lol Flash fanboys haha | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16009 Posts
On November 02 2016 16:00 sharkie wrote: When he beat Dear and Maru. Who thought Flash is the best after his Toronto win? lol Flash fanboys haha right after he lost to sOs so sOs was regarded as the best player. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18524 Posts
On November 02 2016 16:18 Charoisaur wrote: right after he lost to sOs so sOs was regarded as the best player. obviously but for a short time he was considered the best  | ||
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lastride
2390 Posts
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On November 02 2016 16:32 sharkie wrote: obviously but for a short time he was considered the best Less than a day. So basically never. | ||
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blunderfulguy
United States1415 Posts
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Poopi
France12905 Posts
I did not know he wasn't officially retired, wasn't he already streaming BW etc? | ||
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Elentos
55555 Posts
On November 02 2016 20:05 Poopi wrote: Not JD nor Flash were considered the best in sc2, they actually were very disappointing. JD made a lot of money with sponsors and foreign tourneys tho. I did not know he wasn't officially retired, wasn't he already streaming BW etc? Nope, never streamed a thing. There were just suspicions that a high ranking Zerg on Fish was JD. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On November 02 2016 20:05 Poopi wrote: Not JD nor Flash were considered the best in sc2, they actually were very disappointing. JD made a lot of money with sponsors and foreign tourneys tho. I did not know he wasn't officially retired, wasn't he already streaming BW etc? Nope, we didn't see anything from him after his Code A match, apart from a Heroes showmatch. Since he was still on EG, he probably was not allowed to do something like streaming BW on afreeca, since EG = Amazon = Twitch. How EG got any ROI from JD this year is something nobody knows, really weird tbh. Hopefully he can start streaming BW now, although he will surely not do it immediately, just like Flash. Btw I think Jaedong was considered the best zerg for a while, or at least tied first place, but never the best player. Still a huge achievement to do that in both StarCrafts. | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
I knew exactly what game that first clip was going to be. Rewatching it still gives me nerdchills, Heres to hoping we'll see more final edits, they're always amazing. Good luck onwards Jaedong. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On November 02 2016 10:10 Kag wrote: "StarCraft 2 was getting smaller" At which point did SC2 start loosing popularity in Korea? With premier BW tournaments coming back Is BW taking over SC2 in Korea or what?? You guys keep forgetting that at no point in time was SC2 more popular in Korea than BW in terms of player numbers. It just managed to be somewhat equal sometimes. I just hope Jaedong will find his niche and can start a lucrative career somewhere. I'm a little worried about all the programers starting streaming on Afreeca etc as I'm pretty sure 20 years down the road they can't do that anymore. So yeah, just all the best to him. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 02 2016 15:49 Charoisaur wrote: Flash was regarded by many as the best SC2 player after his IEM Toronto win. probably even more so than Jaedong, when was Jaedong considered the best? Would have been in 2013. I also don't recall anyone ever saying Flash was considered the best SC2 player. Jaedong was never the best sc2 player, but in 2013 he was considered one of the best zergs. He had like 5-6 Finals where he placed 2nd and in Blizzcon when he beat Dear (who was considered one of the best sc2 players as he had just won GSL and was crushing people). I remember people saying Dear would 3-0 Jaedong which didn't happen. I don't think Jaedong was ever the best player at SC2, but he was definitely at the top in 2013 and his results prove that. Was a good/sad year for a Jaedong fan because of all his second places, especially when he made some really silly decisions | ||
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beentheredonethat
2934 Posts
Jaedong, thanks for all the fun and entertainment. Thanks for awesome games among two games, for emotions, and for one short handshake at ESL studios in Cologne. <3 | ||
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BelgianSC
Belgium19 Posts
Thanks for all the games and great moments, the clutch plays and general display of dominance. GG WP. | ||
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Rob-Zero
Germany460 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19156 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
I cannot think Zerg, or even Starcraft, without thinking Jaedong. I never met him in person, but I saw him live in 2008 in Cologne at the World Cyber Games. Via internet stream, I later saw the MSL finals Jaedong versus Flash, the one with the infamous power outage. Also via stream, I saw his first GSL appearance. Jaedongs games were always something else. In a sense, Jaedong got me into Starcraft. I were at the WCG finals to watch Warcraft III. Just to get good seats, I arrived earlier and watched those Starcraft matches. Then I saw how stacked mutas took out marines, one by one. | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
Oh, btw TL. Why didn't you ask about the future plans and probable return to afreeca streaming? Isn't it what we all wish so badly? | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On November 02 2016 15:49 Charoisaur wrote: Flash was regarded by many as the best SC2 player after his IEM Toronto win. probably even more so than Jaedong, when was Jaedong considered the best? I don't think either ever were considered the best in sc2. Jaedong was top-tier in the second half of 2013 but not consistently and he was always bested in the finals aside from ASUS ROG. Flash had two strong peaks in the early days of HotS and in the second half of 2014. Neither of which put him on the world throne. Bogus, Life and Soulkey had him beat in early HotS, while Zest, soO, and Maru at a minimum had him beat during the latter peak. Then there's the issue of Flash never getting past the ro16 in GSL... Though if it came down to it, I think Flash beat out Jaedong in sc2. He was more consistent, competed in Korea (epsecially during the Terran massacre of 2014), and flat out had more fearsome peaks. ...but at least Jaedong kicked his ass in the two encounters they met :p | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
Epic. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16009 Posts
On November 03 2016 07:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Flash had two strong peaks in the early days of HotS and in the second half of 2014. Neither of which put him on the world throne. Bogus, Life and Soulkey had him beat in early HotS, while Zest, soO, and Maru at a minimum had him beat during the latter peak. Then there's the issue of Flash never getting past the ro16 in GSL... I think you underestimate how dominant Flash was leading up to his IEM Toronto win. I remember that TL put him only on 3rd place in the Power Rank which was highly controversial because most of the posters thought he deserved #1. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466067-power-rank-august-2014 just look at his record in that month: + Show Spoiler +  Flash 1-0  PartinGFlash 2-0  hitmaNFlash 2-1 RealityFlash 2-1 GuMihoFlash 2-0 DearFlash 2-1 MaruFlash 2-0 soOFlash 2-0 SorryFlash 0-2 ZestFlash 2-1 ClassicFlash 2-0 herO[jOin]Flash 2-0 PigbabyFlash 2-0 DreamFlash 2-0 ZounFlash 2-0 EffOrtFlash 2-1 SoulkeyFlash 2-0 DarkFlash 2-0 SolarFlash 1-2 MCFlash 2-0 ScarlettFlash 2-0 MCFlash 3-2 SnuteFlash 3-1 TaeJaFlash 4-1 Zestedit: that's not saying he was the definitive #1 player at the time but he had serious claims to be ranked #1. | ||
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ShadowReaver
Canada563 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18524 Posts
On November 03 2016 08:29 Charoisaur wrote: I think you underestimate how dominant Flash was leading up to his IEM Toronto win. I remember that TL put him only on 3rd place in the Power Rank which was highly controversial because most of the posters thought he deserved #1. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466067-power-rank-august-2014 just look at his record in that month: + Show Spoiler + Flash 1-0 PartinGFlash 2-0 hitmaNFlash 2-1 RealityFlash 2-1 GuMihoFlash 2-0 DearFlash 2-1 MaruFlash 2-0 soOFlash 2-0 SorryFlash 0-2 ZestFlash 2-1 ClassicFlash 2-0 herO[jOin]Flash 2-0 PigbabyFlash 2-0 DreamFlash 2-0 ZounFlash 2-0 EffOrtFlash 2-1 SoulkeyFlash 2-0 DarkFlash 2-0 SolarFlash 1-2 MCFlash 2-0 ScarlettFlash 2-0 MCFlash 3-2 SnuteFlash 3-1 TaeJaFlash 4-1 Zestedit: that's not saying he was the definitive #1 player at the time but he had serious claims to be ranked #1. "...most of the posters..." Yeah, "most of the posters" thought Flash was best terran in the world till right before he retired heh. Those posters are called Flash fanboys. | ||
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kogeT
Poland2041 Posts
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Sholdar
Sweden21 Posts
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Odoakar
Croatia1837 Posts
Very good final edit, makes me want to re-read iloveoov and savior ones again. | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
Long live the Tyrant. | ||
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Jealous
10234 Posts
On November 03 2016 17:35 kogeT wrote: Jaedong confirmed he is going to start playing BW and streaming on Afreeca. More info: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/511716-jaedong-returns-to-bw \o/ <o> \o/ | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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calippo
Sweden2525 Posts
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RYZmooN
Canada575 Posts
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