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On November 02 2016 15:49 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2016 15:21 sharkie wrote:
The only player who at one point in time was regarded the best player in both SC1 and SC2.
A legend Flash was regarded by many as the best SC2 player after his IEM Toronto win. probably even more so than Jaedong, when was Jaedong considered the best?
Would have been in 2013. I also don't recall anyone ever saying Flash was considered the best SC2 player. Jaedong was never the best sc2 player, but in 2013 he was considered one of the best zergs. He had like 5-6 Finals where he placed 2nd and in Blizzcon when he beat Dear (who was considered one of the best sc2 players as he had just won GSL and was crushing people). I remember people saying Dear would 3-0 Jaedong which didn't happen.
I don't think Jaedong was ever the best player at SC2, but he was definitely at the top in 2013 and his results prove that. Was a good/sad year for a Jaedong fan because of all his second places, especially when he made some really silly decisions 
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EGTL! Oh, my good lord.
Jaedong, thanks for all the fun and entertainment. Thanks for awesome games among two games, for emotions, and for one short handshake at ESL studios in Cologne.
<3
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Another great retires.
Thanks for all the games and great moments, the clutch plays and general display of dominance.
GG WP.
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All the best to you in the future, Jaedong. It was always a pleasure to watch your games, and many great moments in BW as well as in SC2. Always hard working, always nice to others, you were really a great addition to the e-sports scene. There was never a nicer Tyrant than you are.
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No more Jaedong?
I cannot think Zerg, or even Starcraft, without thinking Jaedong.
I never met him in person, but I saw him live in 2008 in Cologne at the World Cyber Games.
Via internet stream, I later saw the MSL finals Jaedong versus Flash, the one with the infamous power outage. Also via stream, I saw his first GSL appearance. Jaedongs games were always something else.
In a sense, Jaedong got me into Starcraft. I were at the WCG finals to watch Warcraft III. Just to get good seats, I arrived earlier and watched those Starcraft matches. Then I saw how stacked mutas took out marines, one by one.
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I was introduced to Korean BW proscene back in 2007 after home lan parties. I always had a soft spot for zergs, a race so fragile and weak, yet unstoppable when mastered. It was obvious that Jaedong would soon become my favourite player. He was different, not only in sheer skill but the risk he used to take in any game. And you know, when zergs take risks with very high probability the game becomes a drama. I remember how fierce were our arguments in LR threads on who was better Flash or Jaedong, dat fanboizm poured into the pages the keyboards were burning. I still remember Hana MSL and that stupid Triatlon map, I could hear my heart pounding. These were the times. Starcraft seemed so big back then and it seemed like it would last forever. Here we are reading the closing note from Jaedong and you've never felt so old. How can you let it go like this? No way I am. Come back to BW Jaedong, the game that never betrayed your passion and never will. We, your fans, are still here and we are waiting for your comeback.
Oh, btw TL. Why didn't you ask about the future plans and probable return to afreeca streaming? Isn't it what we all wish so badly?
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Sad to see the kong go. GG
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On November 02 2016 15:49 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2016 15:21 sharkie wrote:
The only player who at one point in time was regarded the best player in both SC1 and SC2.
A legend Flash was regarded by many as the best SC2 player after his IEM Toronto win. probably even more so than Jaedong, when was Jaedong considered the best?
I don't think either ever were considered the best in sc2. Jaedong was top-tier in the second half of 2013 but not consistently and he was always bested in the finals aside from ASUS ROG.
Flash had two strong peaks in the early days of HotS and in the second half of 2014. Neither of which put him on the world throne. Bogus, Life and Soulkey had him beat in early HotS, while Zest, soO, and Maru at a minimum had him beat during the latter peak. Then there's the issue of Flash never getting past the ro16 in GSL...
Though if it came down to it, I think Flash beat out Jaedong in sc2. He was more consistent, competed in Korea (epsecially during the Terran massacre of 2014), and flat out had more fearsome peaks.
...but at least Jaedong kicked his ass in the two encounters they met :p
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Having watched almost all of his career over the years... and just finishing my favorite player's final interview...
Epic.
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On November 03 2016 07:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2016 15:49 Charoisaur wrote:On November 02 2016 15:21 sharkie wrote:
The only player who at one point in time was regarded the best player in both SC1 and SC2.
A legend Flash was regarded by many as the best SC2 player after his IEM Toronto win. probably even more so than Jaedong, when was Jaedong considered the best? Flash had two strong peaks in the early days of HotS and in the second half of 2014. Neither of which put him on the world throne. Bogus, Life and Soulkey had him beat in early HotS, while Zest, soO, and Maru at a minimum had him beat during the latter peak. Then there's the issue of Flash never getting past the ro16 in GSL...
I think you underestimate how dominant Flash was leading up to his IEM Toronto win.
I remember that TL put him only on 3rd place in the Power Rank which was highly controversial because most of the posters thought he deserved #1.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466067-power-rank-august-2014
just look at his record in that month:
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edit: that's not saying he was the definitive #1 player at the time but he had serious claims to be ranked #1.
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A legend like no other. This article was a beautiful tribute for The Tyrant. GG Lee Jae Dong!
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On November 03 2016 08:29 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 07:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On November 02 2016 15:49 Charoisaur wrote:On November 02 2016 15:21 sharkie wrote:
The only player who at one point in time was regarded the best player in both SC1 and SC2.
A legend Flash was regarded by many as the best SC2 player after his IEM Toronto win. probably even more so than Jaedong, when was Jaedong considered the best? Flash had two strong peaks in the early days of HotS and in the second half of 2014. Neither of which put him on the world throne. Bogus, Life and Soulkey had him beat in early HotS, while Zest, soO, and Maru at a minimum had him beat during the latter peak. Then there's the issue of Flash never getting past the ro16 in GSL... I think you underestimate how dominant Flash was leading up to his IEM Toronto win. I remember that TL put him only on 3rd place in the Power Rank which was highly controversial because most of the posters thought he deserved #1. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466067-power-rank-august-2014just look at his record in that month: + Show Spoiler +edit: that's not saying he was the definitive #1 player at the time but he had serious claims to be ranked #1.
"...most of the posters..."
Yeah, "most of the posters" thought Flash was best terran in the world till right before he retired heh. Those posters are called Flash fanboys.
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I'm a protoss by heart and MC has long been my inspiration, but this article is where I got emotional... Must be some damn ninjas cutting onions or something like that....
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No trolling and no baiting, but I still feel Savior was the best Zerg player.
Very good final edit, makes me want to re-read iloveoov and savior ones again.
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Jaedong was the main reason why I fell in love with competitive Starcraft. If there is one player I am a fan of, it's Jaedong. He kept inspiring me throughout his whole career.
Long live the Tyrant.
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I had a sexy dream about Jaedong once
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Jaedong will always represent the best of Starcraft and Esports to me. Thanks for the memories, champ.
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EPT
