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On October 05 2016 01:18 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 01:13 brickrd wrote:
lol this thread is hilarious, dude makes a personal decision and backseat life drivers on the internet grill him about it
people talking about the "average cost" of marriage... lol you can get married for $1000 easily or even less than that if you don't care Well it is quite ridiculous that we are questioning his decisions, considering he isn't accountable to any of us. Regarding the cost of marriage, you will be hard pressed to find a fiance that isn't seduced by the savvy marketing skills in the wedding industry. In Ontario it only costs $100 to get married at city hall, and $500 to have a reception at a chinese buffet, so your estimation is even lower. The average cost of a wedding here goes around 20k. Huge markup in the wedding industry.
True the wedding industry marks things up a lot - but honestly the venue/food itself is killer.
Everyone saying weddings CAN be cheap is right.. but often times its not realistic as you have to meet the expectations of friends and family (in asian cultures its really important).
Just eating Christmas dinner with my extended family (20 of us?) at 10 or 12 course chinese food in Alberta here - we can easily eat $500, especially if you get the lobster/crab/abalone/seafood soups that are tradition at any big Chinese dinner.
Also - family being SUPER important in asian culture, at my wedding we invited 100 friends and my wife's parents and my parent's also invited another 100 of their friends. With 200 guests, at a "cheaper" venue (compared to my other friends) it cost over $50 per person. thats already 10k. That doesn't include all the alcohol (also pricey), reservation fees, other deposits and service charges, gratuity of usually 15%. And thats barebones for just venue and food.
If you've never hired a photographer before - these can cost upwards of 3-5k easily. And then throw in a DJ and decorations, wedding dress, suit rentals, etc.
Lastly everyone complaining that he can't move the date - venues in my moderately sized city are already booked a year in advance. I cant imagine if he had to book in Seoul how far ahead he'd have to get it reserved. Its not exactly like you call into a restaurant and you can easily move the date a few days later - it could be like a year delay. Given that you've booked the venue a year in advance - you then let all your family know so they can book flights. Imagine if you had to tell everyone they had to change their vacation and flight and hotel dates. That expense to your guests can already exceed 10k if you have more than 10 people coming from out of town.
Photographers (especially good ones) are also easily booked up to 6-9 months in advance. My fiance had a specific style of photographer she wanted - cant exactly willy nilly change and choose another one a few months before the wedding.
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On October 04 2016 23:46 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:With full respect to Hydra's decision, i'm still a bit confused to why he would plan his wedding that close to blizzcon dates? Like this phrase does not make much sense: "Last year and two year ago, BlizzCon started on the Nov 1st, so I thought it would be fine to book my wedding on the 29th(+time difference between kr and usa so would arrive on the 29th.)" Would anyone here plan to have a wedding and FLY THE FUCK OUT the same day? Or maybe he planned to combine honeymoon with Blizzcon and chill in California with his wife? If this is the case, he has only himself to blame for a mix-up 
Two possible reasons:
1. The queue for the place he would like to hold the wedding is very very long and the next possible date is around October 29th.
and/or
2. In Eastern countries, like China, there is a concept of a "good date" for marriage (or moving houses, start building a new office, etc.). It is a believe that you have to marry at this specific date in order to have a strong and long last relationship in the future. I am not sure whether S. Korea has this belief or not (especially many of S. Koreans are Christian now) but I would guess a lot of older people still have this kind of belief. Therefore, it is very possible that, couple with the first reason, makes the 29th the only date possible for his wedding ceremony if he wants to get marry this year, speaking from my own experience. When I got married, the only "good date" that I had (and all my relatives would not allow me to hold the ceremony on any other day unless it would be on a date around 6 months later) left me with 2 days for pre-wedding photoshoot and for making a wedding suit.
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Oh no doubt venue and food are the biggest hit. When we visited different venues, they told us open bar would cost an extra $30-50 depending on the type of liquor.
And our menu choices ranged from 80-250 per head. Venue costs is the biggest incurring factor in any wedding, usually starting at 10k, but rarely ever staying there.
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One more thing on moving the date (especially after it set and you have a ton of guests) -
If hydra loses 10k having an average professional job (programmer/engineer/accountant/etc) - he can easily make that back in say 3-5 months of work. It hurts but its not terrible. And it only affects yourself.
But if your family is really networked (big extended family, lots of parents friends) - asian ppl (especially from the older generation) LOVE to gossip and NEVER forget haha. You'll be losing face for not only yourself but your parents (and your fiance's parents - whom you're trying to impress) and you'll never hear the end of how you moved the date on everyone for YEARS or decades on end haha.
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On October 05 2016 01:35 VHbb wrote:On an other note, I know nothing about weddings, but the prices I'm reading are crazy :D I think in Italy weddings are usually pretty large and I guess we are around the same prices, but I would not be too happy to spend that much (10-20k !!! ) for a single day.. I'm not judging, and I have no experience, just my first reaction reading the numbers is disbelief 
Well in Asian countries, appearance and connections are very important. It is very normal that a wedding ceremony would have 200+ guests. And the higher you (and your parents) are the more expensive it gets, both from the number of guests and the quality/class that you need to deliver.
I have a friend whose parents have quite high ranks in the military and she needed to invited 1,000 guests for her wedding ceremony. That would cost a lot even if you don't go for a super high class venue.
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don't forget that there are people on this forum, that probably not even put a thought into wedding and for those 10k is usually alot.
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10k might be nothing for a wedding (usually cost $20k-$50k), but that doesn't mean that having booked a different date originally would be a decently big cost savings (1-2 months salary at a normal job).
I suppose it's fair that he might not have been thinking this far ahead, it's not the biggest deal anyway. Congrats on the wedding
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Its very interesting to hear about other cultures in this subject. It seems family has the strongest role, since I don't know how many newly wed people could afford such expenses.. (I certainly could not, and I am not too young to be married)
Thanks for sharing!
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and also DongRaeGu (DRG) joined army today. another player retired from sc2.
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1 zerg out, 2 zergs in. We're going to have a freaking ZvZ fest there :D
A little sad Hydra can't participate but I'm very happy for Elazer!
All the best Hydra!
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Ouch. Love hurts (career)
Agreed with someone who posted above, Hydra probably would've lost a lot in the eyes of her family and such, had he postponed the wedding on the last minute.
Harsh though, since it was actually Blizzcon which is pretty crucial for a SC2 pro. Maybe her family shouldve actually understood him and allow to postpone. Probably much easier said than done.
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On October 05 2016 04:25 Majick wrote:
1 zerg out, 2 zergs in. We're going to have a freaking ZvZ fest there :D
A little sad Hydra can't participate but I'm very happy for Elazer!
All the best Hydra!
Why people keep saying that, i think Violet is the one who got lucky 
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Sorry to hear there's a clash of dates with WCS finals and the wedding day. Congratulations, Hydra. You will be missed in your retirement
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Elazer - such a lucky guy. First Hitman, now Hydra.
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Ppl should admit that they are jealous of Hydra. Congrats!
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Still not as bad a Lilbow.
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On October 05 2016 06:41 Garuga wrote:
Still not as bad a Lilbow.
very true
Im happy for him.
getting married > 10k
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Okay now after this statement from Hydra I'm actually starting to get pissed off at Hydras mindset and thinking regarding this situation he talks about how much this tournament would mean to him cause it would be the last major event before his military service probably the greatest event regardless of result lets be honest but then begins to defend his decision for wedding dates and planning and makes this quote "As I believed so much that it could've been figured and I could've played it" buddy assumption is the mother of all fuck ups just stupid he would assume hey we'll figure it out if it becomes a problem but hey no worries. That is basically the attitude he took and it shows by his statement he makes a case for we planned the wedding a year ago and ASSUMED that Blizzcon would be at the beginning of November cause of past history. Hey here's a good piece of information history is HISTORY it does not indicate exact dates for future events yes it may set a precedent for predictable time frames but it should have been a time frame you completely avoided when it came to planning your wedding. This whole thing just irks me all sorts of way I am big Hydra supporter and to see this play out the way it has is more than distasteful to say the least the logic just doesn't make sense here.
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On October 05 2016 10:23 Nostromo1 wrote:
Okay now after this statement from Hydra I'm actually starting to get pissed off at Hydras mindset and thinking regarding this situation he talks about how much this tournament would mean to him cause it would be the last major event before his military service probably the greatest event regardless of result lets be honest but then begins to defend his decision for wedding dates and planning and makes this quote "As I believed so much that it could've been figured and I could've played it" buddy assumption is the mother of all fuck ups just stupid he would assume hey we'll figure it out if it becomes a problem but hey no worries. That is basically the attitude he took and it shows by his statement he makes a case for we planned the wedding a year ago and ASSUMED that Blizzcon would be at the beginning of November cause of past history. Hey here's a good piece of information history is HISTORY it does not indicate exact dates for future events yes it may set a precedent for predictable time frames but it should have been a time frame you completely avoided when it came to planning your wedding. This whole thing just irks me all sorts of way I am big Hydra supporter and to see this play out the way it has is more than distasteful to say the least the logic just doesn't make sense here.
You don't sound like a very good Hydra supporter to me.
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On October 05 2016 10:47 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2016 10:23 Nostromo1 wrote:
Okay now after this statement from Hydra I'm actually starting to get pissed off at Hydras mindset and thinking regarding this situation he talks about how much this tournament would mean to him cause it would be the last major event before his military service probably the greatest event regardless of result lets be honest but then begins to defend his decision for wedding dates and planning and makes this quote "As I believed so much that it could've been figured and I could've played it" buddy assumption is the mother of all fuck ups just stupid he would assume hey we'll figure it out if it becomes a problem but hey no worries. That is basically the attitude he took and it shows by his statement he makes a case for we planned the wedding a year ago and ASSUMED that Blizzcon would be at the beginning of November cause of past history. Hey here's a good piece of information history is HISTORY it does not indicate exact dates for future events yes it may set a precedent for predictable time frames but it should have been a time frame you completely avoided when it came to planning your wedding. This whole thing just irks me all sorts of way I am big Hydra supporter and to see this play out the way it has is more than distasteful to say the least the logic just doesn't make sense here. You don't sound like a very good Hydra supporter to me.
Why because I am upset that he planned his wedding within the assumed Blizzcon time frame lol something that common sense would make you not plan your wedding anywhere near that time frame? What is a "good" Hydra supporter supposed to say congrats happy you won't be at Blizzcon? I am just voicing my frustration regarding this whole situation that's what a "normal" fan imo would do when one of their favorite players doesn't show up when they have a seat but hey I guess I hate Hydra by your definition.
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