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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
September 06 2016 16:01 GMT
#121
On September 07 2016 00:59 rednusa wrote:
What does "Best of 3, Dual Tournament" mean?

Normal, GSL style groups. A vs B, C vs D, Winner vs Winner, Loser vs Loser, Loser 2 vs Winner 2.
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rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
September 06 2016 16:08 GMT
#122
Thanks! This is going to be exciting. Pre-Blizzcon: korean vs foreigner.

While we have online cups where the two meet, it's not quite the same as a serious offline tournament with big money involved!
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 16:12:56
September 06 2016 16:12 GMT
#123
Is this the first global event of the year?

Having so few global events is one of the major letdowns of this year's WCS system.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 06 2016 16:15 GMT
#124
On September 07 2016 01:12 paralleluniverse wrote:
Is this the first global event of the year?

Having so few global events is one of the major letdowns of this year's WCS system.


Yeah i think it is.
Personally i only have two problems with the system: We have less korean tournaments and we have less "global" events because any global from last year got region locked this year.

=> It's not nearly as interesting to follow sc2 this year unless all you care for is foreigners winning tournaments
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 16:20:25
September 06 2016 16:18 GMT
#125
On September 06 2016 22:34 Eiltonn wrote:
Btw what except for Neebs recent run in the Olimo Cup makes people think that foreigners will be able to beat Koreans? I do not mean any offense, but when there is 8 people going through KR only qualifiers + herO, Maru, Zest and Stats the only chance i see for the foreigners is Zest going for a cannon rush lol


So Zest will cannon rush....and lose badly right?

Besides, once you get past the top Koreans, (and there's no guarantee that only the very top Koreans will make it through the qualifiers) you get to Reality, alive, ryung, and gumiho. And all of those players have been beaten by a number of foreigners.

So if (and this is a big if) the best of the best foreigners make it through, they may not be able to beat the top Koreans, but they'll likely put up some good games versus the weaker Koreans who qualify.

On September 07 2016 01:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2016 01:12 paralleluniverse wrote:
Is this the first global event of the year?

Having so few global events is one of the major letdowns of this year's WCS system.


Yeah i think it is.
Personally i only have two problems with the system: We have less korean tournaments and we have less "global" events because any global from last year got region locked this year.

=> It's not nearly as interesting to follow sc2 this year unless all you care for is foreigners winning tournaments


But if you even care a bit for foreigners winning, then SC2 has been very interesting to follow. (Especially how Polt and Hydra were expected to dominate and then did the exact opposite.)

"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
RedAlice
Profile Joined April 2016
51 Posts
September 06 2016 16:24 GMT
#126
On September 07 2016 01:18 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 22:34 Eiltonn wrote:
Btw what except for Neebs recent run in the Olimo Cup makes people think that foreigners will be able to beat Koreans? I do not mean any offense, but when there is 8 people going through KR only qualifiers + herO, Maru, Zest and Stats the only chance i see for the foreigners is Zest going for a cannon rush lol


So Zest will cannon rush....and lose badly right?

Besides, once you get past the top Koreans, (and there's no guarantee that only the very top Koreans will make it through the qualifiers) you get to Reality, alive, ryung, and gumiho. And all of those players have been beaten by a number of foreigners.

So if (and this is a big if) the best of the best foreigners make it through, they may not be able to beat the top Koreans, but they'll likely put up some good games versus the weaker Koreans who qualify.

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On September 07 2016 01:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On September 07 2016 01:12 paralleluniverse wrote:
Is this the first global event of the year?

Having so few global events is one of the major letdowns of this year's WCS system.


Yeah i think it is.
Personally i only have two problems with the system: We have less korean tournaments and we have less "global" events because any global from last year got region locked this year.

=> It's not nearly as interesting to follow sc2 this year unless all you care for is foreigners winning tournaments


But if you even care a bit for foreigners winning, then SC2 has been very interesting to follow. (Especially how Polt and Hydra were expected to dominate and then did the exact opposite.)



Group stage ro16 makes it harder for casual wins.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 06 2016 16:27 GMT
#127
I mean i watched that too and it was fine but in the end i still wanna know how Neeb does against TY, Maru, Stats, Dark, etc and not if he can beat Hydra.
Region locking is fine if there is enough "global events" to put it all into context.
Like i wanna see this at least every two months or so :/

IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
September 06 2016 16:35 GMT
#128
Now THAT ladies and gentlemen is how you do invites. This format looks awesome, I can't wait for this.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Antonidas
Profile Joined August 2014
United States105 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 16:38:39
September 06 2016 16:35 GMT
#129
yay, we'll be able to see how EVERYONE stacks up. The foreign scene has produced WAY BETTER PLAYERS. Wouldn't be surprised if some do really well.
as long as there is Starcraft, life is good *insert propaganda here*
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
September 06 2016 16:37 GMT
#130
Sadly the year's best tournament so far is gonna happen while I will be hiking in Tasmania. Hope you guys show some passion in my absence.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
September 06 2016 16:41 GMT
#131
Sort of strange to have PL feed into it. I suspect that's due to there being a cross-tournament finals for gsl/SSL?

I'd love to see who the foreign representatives are though!!!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 06 2016 16:49 GMT
#132
Neeb 4-0 Maru in the final imo
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TriX_sc2
Profile Joined March 2016
19 Posts
September 06 2016 16:52 GMT
#133
On September 06 2016 19:16 Major wrote:
Im tired and i think i speak on behalf alot of ppl of these invites based on points ita totally unfair and really should b removed for next year



I am not sure if this has been brought up yet, but isn't any invite unfair to begin with?
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
September 06 2016 16:55 GMT
#134
Great to see that foreigners will lose the illusion that they now can magically compete with koreans even before blizzcon.
Maybe we'll see nerchio losing 4:0 to hurricane and speed or something.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
CyanEsports
Profile Joined February 2015
Canada128 Posts
September 06 2016 17:03 GMT
#135
Between IEM Goyang and this, the run up to Blizzcon will be really busy! This will be really exciting!

Its unfortunate that the qualifiers fall so close to Copa Intercontinental. Especially when the race for 8th place is so tight.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
September 06 2016 17:06 GMT
#136
Awesome, thanks KeSPA Cup
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-06 17:06:36
September 06 2016 17:06 GMT
#137
On September 06 2016 23:50 Ctone23 wrote:
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On September 06 2016 23:46 Elentos wrote:
On September 06 2016 23:33 Ctone23 wrote:
On September 06 2016 23:26 Olli wrote:
Incredibly relieved to be able to point to this and say "but we did have a Global Event!" when the discussion about WCS 2017 starts.

Yeah it's a huge relief, I only wish the winner of this would get an invite to Blizzcon.

It's good that they don't. Stuff like that only punishes people who were consistent throughout the year but didn't actually win a tournament, especially because it's a very late announcement.

Seems only fair to me, but I can respect that argument.

Okay, let me give you an example then.

Let's assume sOs wins GSL and secures his Blizzcon spot that way. Then the Korean top 8 for Blizzcon is Dark, Solar, Zest, Stats, TY, sOs, ByuN, Dear. Now let's assume the winner of KeSPA Cup gets a Blizzcon ticket. Say, perhaps, INnoVation wins KeSPA Cup. INnoVation only has 800 WCS points, he's far away from the top 8. Even with the points from KeSPA Cup he'd only be at 2300. But because of the guaranteed ticket he would still have a Blizzcon seed and kick out the lowest ranking top 8 player (by points).

In this case, Dear, who would have more than twice as many WCS points as INnoVation for his vastly superior performances in Korean leagues (2x GSL Ro4, 1x SSL Ro8) would get cut. In favor of someone who only really performed for the 3 days of KeSPA Cup.
On September 07 2016 02:03 CyanEsports wrote:
Between IEM Goyang and this, the run up to Blizzcon will be really busy! This will be really exciting!

Its unfortunate that the qualifiers fall so close to Copa Intercontinental. Especially when the race for 8th place is so tight.

IEM Goyang is in December.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8244 Posts
September 06 2016 17:06 GMT
#138
On September 07 2016 01:49 Shellshock wrote:
Neeb 4-0 Maru in the final imo

If this happens, then Maru should retire as a pro gamer.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
September 06 2016 17:07 GMT
#139
On September 07 2016 02:06 geokilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2016 01:49 Shellshock wrote:
Neeb 4-0 Maru in the final imo

If this happens, then Maru should retire as a pro gamer.


Noonius won't give him a choice in such case
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 06 2016 17:08 GMT
#140
On September 06 2016 23:55 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2016 23:26 Olli wrote:
Incredibly relieved to be able to point to this and say "but we did have a Global Event!" when the discussion about WCS 2017 starts.


Incredibly funny to point out it was fucking Kespa who did it


Hey, I did it first D:

On September 06 2016 18:59 Olli wrote:
It's so incredibly fitting that it's KeSPA who pull out the first and probably only Global Event of the year.

Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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