EPTMonetary conflict between Invasion, Choya, Legend - Page 2
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KappaKingPrime
United States468 Posts
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Penev
28536 Posts
On August 01 2016 16:59 HornyHerring wrote: Is anyone even still surprised? This is the market and this is how those teams operate because it's not regulated and there are no real repercussions for stealing. Judging from the comments Nope | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On August 01 2016 16:59 HornyHerring wrote: Is anyone even still surprised? This is the market and this is how those teams operate because it's not regulated and there are no real repercussions for stealing. Yeah, this is the problem, isn't it... It's not like there will be any legal action taken... everyone is free to play the con-man and promise all kinds of things, with virtually nothing at stake apart from the reputation in StarCraft. And it's the pro gamers that take the hit. To fix this there had to be consequences to scamming, or everyone has to pay in advance. The latter isn't really feasible for a lot of (honest) organisations, so it kindof had to be the former. So I guess we would need a players association that help players set up contracts that actually will put the organisers in legal trouble if they don't pay? Without punishing honest organisations too much? Wasn't there something like that at some point? I don't know, I'm a random gold player that theory crafts. Does the above make any sense? | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
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rotta
5655 Posts
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
But Choya was the guy who didnt understand american taxes and called out MLG for missing money of MarineKing just to ruin their name. That does not help him when it comes to financial call outs. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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ruypture
United States367 Posts
didnt dreamhack start paying players directly? years ago? | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On August 01 2016 18:15 Cascade wrote: Yeah, this is the problem, isn't it... It's not like there will be any legal action taken... everyone is free to play the con-man and promise all kinds of things, with virtually nothing at stake apart from the reputation in StarCraft. And it's the pro gamers that take the hit. To fix this there had to be consequences to scamming, or everyone has to pay in advance. The latter isn't really feasible for a lot of (honest) organisations, so it kindof had to be the former. So I guess we would need a players association that help players set up contracts that actually will put the organisers in legal trouble if they don't pay? Without punishing honest organisations too much? Wasn't there something like that at some point? I don't know, I'm a random gold player that theory crafts. Does the above make any sense? Well, a players' union (or several players' unions, even) would be the most basic thing that should happen. But that's eSports players we're talking about. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On August 01 2016 18:15 Cascade wrote: Yeah, this is the problem, isn't it... It's not like there will be any legal action taken... everyone is free to play the con-man and promise all kinds of things, with virtually nothing at stake apart from the reputation in StarCraft. And it's the pro gamers that take the hit. To fix this there had to be consequences to scamming, or everyone has to pay in advance. The latter isn't really feasible for a lot of (honest) organisations, so it kindof had to be the former. So I guess we would need a players association that help players set up contracts that actually will put the organisers in legal trouble if they don't pay? Without punishing honest organisations too much? Wasn't there something like that at some point? I don't know, I'm a random gold player that theory crafts. Does the above make any sense? Or players could not let other people handle their affairs | ||
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FireCake
151 Posts
On August 01 2016 19:18 LongShot27 wrote: Man esports competitors are really really naive across all games. STOP LETTING OTHER PEOPLE HANDLE YOUR PRIZE MONEY. If your team demands individual prizes be handled by them you need to know theyre gonna take it. Sucks for gumiho. Many progamers prefer that their team gets the prizemoney directly then send it back to them... Because if tournament organizer gives you the money directly they have to pay tax and you get less money in the process. But if tournament organizer gives the money directly to your organization they don't pay taxes and you will in the end get all your prize money. I never really understand why but this is how it works. | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France898 Posts
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Creager
Germany1966 Posts
On August 01 2016 19:35 FireCake wrote: Many progamers prefer that their team gets the prizemoney directly then send it back to them... Because if tournament organizer gives you the money directly they have to pay tax and you get less money in the process. But if tournament organizer gives the money directly to your organization they don't pay taxes and you will in the end get all your prize money. I never really understand why but this is how it works. Really interesting aspect you brought up here, can anyone confirm this and maybe give further background insights? Teams/organizations should pay some sort of tax, as well (also depending on the amount of prize money), since they act profit-oriented. At least, that's how it would work in Germany, I think. | ||
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zyce
United States649 Posts
@KingSebou's Tweets are protected. Only confirmed followers have access to @KingSebou's Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request. Probably no answer forthcoming... what a terrible guy. Poor Gumiho, he's been playing so incredibly well. | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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SkilleX
2 Posts
Although i was also a follower of his twitter account and his champagne here, champagne there posts. | ||
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Durenas
Canada45 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On August 01 2016 19:43 SinO[Ob] wrote: Seriously,, we need a Gordon Ramsey for Team Management. People need to learn how to run a team... "Fuck me..." Sad thing is, he probably know very well how to run a team, and most of all how to run a team that make him the most money by not paying his player. | ||
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