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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-02 22:49:35
August 02 2016 22:48 GMT
#261
On August 02 2016 21:06 realityyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 18:42 olimoley wrote:
On August 02 2016 08:34 LongShot27 wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:58 stuchiu wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:55 Deathstar wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:41 Aocowns wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:36 Elentos wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:31 SC2FeaR1 wrote:
You guys have no clue about the situation theres 2 ppl making statements and you just have to wait for whatever comes out of it but all this stupid hate on either choya sebou or for some reason demuslim ???? Is pointless and stupid imo just wanted to make that clear!

Demuslim got hate for hating on Choya for no reason. Also Choya is backed up by Legend (coach of another Proleague team) who says he has a similar situation going on with Invasion, so it's not just 2 people.

Besides, the odds that anything comes out of this at all are low.

i mean demuslim isnt the only one


not saying that as if it definitely makes sebou the victim here or whatever or that demu wasnt dumb to chime in, but it doesnt sound like it's "for no reason"


"Sebou only does generous and nice things" aside from conning players of their money. How convenient of rifkin to leave out the factor that goes against his initial position. I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer's neighbors thought he was a nice and generous guy who participated in many charities and volunteer organizations. Except for the other stuff Jeffrey did.


I imagine g2a was also nice and generous to work with.


This is why I take nothing BASETRADETV says anymore seriously


Please don't mistake Rifkin's words for everyone on BaseTradeTV.


NOT HATING:
Is there like a petition or something going on to replace Rifkin?
I personally just cannot stand his talking and "casting", while Zombiegrub is actually pretty nice to watch, as she has great game knowledge and does not behave so arrogant and sometimes even rude to cocasters. But Rifkin makes it so bad I don't watch BT anymore. I actually heard the same thing from some more people, who would really like to see Zombiegrub cast with someone else, which would make a really great cast.


I don't have any problem with Rifkin myself, but Feardragon (who is a wonderful human being as far as I know) is now on Basetrade and casting and cast sometime with ZG, so maybe check back sometime.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 02 2016 23:51 GMT
#262
On August 03 2016 07:20 Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 04:46 BasetradeTV wrote:
On August 02 2016 21:06 realityyy wrote:
On August 02 2016 18:42 olimoley wrote:
On August 02 2016 08:34 LongShot27 wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:58 stuchiu wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:55 Deathstar wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:41 Aocowns wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:36 Elentos wrote:
On August 02 2016 07:31 SC2FeaR1 wrote:
You guys have no clue about the situation theres 2 ppl making statements and you just have to wait for whatever comes out of it but all this stupid hate on either choya sebou or for some reason demuslim ???? Is pointless and stupid imo just wanted to make that clear!

Demuslim got hate for hating on Choya for no reason. Also Choya is backed up by Legend (coach of another Proleague team) who says he has a similar situation going on with Invasion, so it's not just 2 people.

Besides, the odds that anything comes out of this at all are low.

i mean demuslim isnt the only one
https://twitter.com/Rif_kingz/status/760194273262247936

not saying that as if it definitely makes sebou the victim here or whatever or that demu wasnt dumb to chime in, but it doesnt sound like it's "for no reason"


"Sebou only does generous and nice things" aside from conning players of their money. How convenient of rifkin to leave out the factor that goes against his initial position. I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer's neighbors thought he was a nice and generous guy who participated in many charities and volunteer organizations. Except for the other stuff Jeffrey did.


I imagine g2a was also nice and generous to work with.


This is why I take nothing BASETRADETV says anymore seriously


Please don't mistake Rifkin's words for everyone on BaseTradeTV.


NOT HATING:
Is there like a petition or something going on to replace Rifkin?
I personally just cannot stand his talking and "casting", while Zombiegrub is actually pretty nice to watch, as she has great game knowledge and does not behave so arrogant and sometimes even rude to cocasters. But Rifkin makes it so bad I don't watch BT anymore. I actually heard the same thing from some more people, who would really like to see Zombiegrub cast with someone else, which would make a really great cast.


You should submit your request to the boss of Basetradetv


That sarcasm. I didn't know who the "boss of Bastradetv" is, but it appears to be Rifkin according to https://www.basetrade.tv/about/ .


I mean he did found it
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
August 03 2016 00:02 GMT
#263
I love when these threads go off on a tangent! Fuck that, this thread is derailed!
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
August 03 2016 02:55 GMT
#264
On August 03 2016 09:02 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
I love when these threads go off on a tangent! Fuck that, this thread is derailed!


Was already off on a tangent when people went on and on about the tweets by people who had no relevance at all in the topic. At least now we are back onto important stuff. Also Koivusto did nothing wrong.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
August 03 2016 05:40 GMT
#265
Unfortunately, as sad as it might be for Gumiho, Choya, and Legend, nothing more is going to happen. Sebou is going to get away with whatever he did. Such is life in eSports. So there's not really much to talk about...
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WarreNSC2
Profile Joined April 2015
United States28 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 07:10:39
August 03 2016 07:09 GMT
#266
MFW he wont pay gumiho but posts this on twitter

twitter.com

Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
August 03 2016 07:13 GMT
#267
On August 03 2016 16:09 WarreNSC2 wrote:
MFW he wont pay gumiho but posts this on twitter

twitter.com


No evidence of course, but why shut down your Twitter if you don't have anything to hide? Doesn't really fit with the story of how he is fine with handling everything in public because he is in the right.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17805 Posts
August 03 2016 09:12 GMT
#268
call themselves "Invasion" and use a Space Invader image as their logo.

uhh ya... if they ever started to make any money you can bet Midway will want some cash for using their IP.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1927 Posts
August 03 2016 09:45 GMT
#269
On August 03 2016 16:09 WarreNSC2 wrote:
MFW he wont pay gumiho but posts this on twitter

twitter.com



You'd need to take a screenshot and post it for others to see. If others don't have access rights then the post cannot be seen.
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n3p
Profile Blog Joined July 2016
93 Posts
August 03 2016 12:02 GMT
#270
On August 03 2016 01:05 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2016 23:52 n3p wrote:
On August 02 2016 23:36 Cascade wrote:
On August 02 2016 23:20 Koivusto wrote:
Everybody is wrong and owe me 5,000 $.

I got evidence saying otherwise.
[image loading]
Gibbe monneis!! > : (


This Koivusto guy is shady as fuck. I'm gonna go grab my pitchfork.


n3p is trying to use this drama to stay relevant. How pathetic. Koivusto is a nice guy that only helps the community!!

Are we doing it right?


To be fair, I wasn't relevant to begin with so you're kinda doing it wrong...?
This is a fucking joke. Fuck you. - RIP IdrA
[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1221 Posts
August 03 2016 12:18 GMT
#271
Today was GSL group selection and the theme question was "where would you like to go for vacation and with whom?"
GuMiho's was apparently "go to Switzerland with Choya because we have some issues there"

Just thought I'd put it here.
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J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
August 03 2016 12:32 GMT
#272
Personally can't stand Rifkin either. Not a good casting voice, not very respectful, not particularly good at game analysis... it'd be nice to see him step away from casting for good and do the behind the scenes work. His contribution to this discussion couldn't be worth less.

Invasion needs to pay up. The messages make it pretty clear that he knew he owed money and used every excuse in the book to delay and delay.

Very sad, Gumiho is a good guy and a great player, and we all owe Choya a great deal of respect. Wish they could use legal means to recover some finances here.
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 03 2016 12:38 GMT
#273
On August 03 2016 16:13 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 16:09 WarreNSC2 wrote:
MFW he wont pay gumiho but posts this on twitter

twitter.com


No evidence of course, but why shut down your Twitter if you don't have anything to hide? Doesn't really fit with the story of how he is fine with handling everything in public because he is in the right.

Apperently he did this 17 days ago, don't know the exact reason anymore but it he said it in a reddit comment
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-04 09:51:55
August 03 2016 16:22 GMT
#274
I forgot to logout to stop myself from posting stupid stuff.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17805 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 21:01:12
August 03 2016 20:51 GMT
#275
On August 03 2016 21:32 J. Corsair wrote:
Personally can't stand Rifkin either. Not a good casting voice, not very respectful, not particularly good at game analysis... it'd be nice to see him step away from casting for good and do the behind the scenes work. His contribution to this discussion couldn't be worth less.

People should reserve their harshest criticisms for malicious, fraudulent liars that intentionally rob players of prize money. Rifkin is flawed but he is a 100% ethical operator. He adds a lot to the scene even with his flaws and if he likes broadcasting... its his channel.

Rifkin gets a lot worse after he has been on the air for 8+ hours. There is a reason why real broadcasters almost never on air for 8+ hours. People track and record the stuff he says when he is overtired and so he gets a bad rap for it.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 21:01:33
August 03 2016 21:01 GMT
#276
On August 03 2016 21:32 J. Corsair wrote:
Personally can't stand Rifkin either. Not a good casting voice, not very respectful, not particularly good at game analysis... it'd be nice to see him step away from casting for good and do the behind the scenes work. His contribution to this discussion couldn't be worth less.



Your personal opinion that a particular caster sucks and should hang it up is noted all across the land. Thank you, J. Corsair.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-03 21:23:20
August 03 2016 21:22 GMT
#277
On August 04 2016 06:01 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 21:32 J. Corsair wrote:
Personally can't stand Rifkin either. Not a good casting voice, not very respectful, not particularly good at game analysis... it'd be nice to see him step away from casting for good and do the behind the scenes work. His contribution to this discussion couldn't be worth less.



Your personal opinion that a particular caster sucks and should hang it up is noted all across the land. Thank you, J. Corsair.


It's democracy. He/she can express an opinion. However, let's not continue with off-topic. It's becoming disrespectful. I'm sure Gumiho has a bigger problem than if Rifkin is a caster or not.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1962 Posts
August 04 2016 07:43 GMT
#278
On August 04 2016 05:51 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 21:32 J. Corsair wrote:
Personally can't stand Rifkin either. Not a good casting voice, not very respectful, not particularly good at game analysis... it'd be nice to see him step away from casting for good and do the behind the scenes work. His contribution to this discussion couldn't be worth less.

People should reserve their harshest criticisms for malicious, fraudulent liars that intentionally rob players of prize money. Rifkin is flawed but he is a 100% ethical operator. He adds a lot to the scene even with his flaws and if he likes broadcasting... its his channel.

Rifkin gets a lot worse after he has been on the air for 8+ hours. There is a reason why real broadcasters almost never on air for 8+ hours. People track and record the stuff he says when he is overtired and so he gets a bad rap for it.


He's apparently unwilling to drop G2A as sponsor and doesn't see what's wrong with it, so I really wouldn't call him 100% ethical.
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Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
August 04 2016 09:36 GMT
#279
On August 04 2016 05:51 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2016 21:32 J. Corsair wrote:
Personally can't stand Rifkin either. Not a good casting voice, not very respectful, not particularly good at game analysis... it'd be nice to see him step away from casting for good and do the behind the scenes work. His contribution to this discussion couldn't be worth less.

People should reserve their harshest criticisms for malicious, fraudulent liars that intentionally rob players of prize money. Rifkin is flawed but he is a 100% ethical operator. He adds a lot to the scene even with his flaws and if he likes broadcasting... its his channel.

Rifkin gets a lot worse after he has been on the air for 8+ hours. There is a reason why real broadcasters almost never on air for 8+ hours. People track and record the stuff he says when he is overtired and so he gets a bad rap for it.


Except Rifkin qualifies for that. SortOf bangate for example.
Have a nice day ;)
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 04 2016 10:48 GMT
#280
The problem with G2A is really synonymous with a problem with the foreigner eSports industry. A good part of it is funded by shady people who artificially inflate the scene beyond what it can realistically support.

Hate on Korea and kespa all you want, but they keep shit straight. Barring the match-fixing scandals, then again, it's not like Kespa is easy on cheaters in the first place.
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