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Legacy of the Void Balance Update -- July 6, 2016 - Page 6

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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
July 08 2016 11:54 GMT
#101
IMO we should remove blink from stalkers and give it to the spine and spore crawlers.
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 08 2016 12:38 GMT
#102
On July 08 2016 20:54 mikedebo wrote:
IMO we should remove blink from stalkers and give it to the spine and spore crawlers.

sounds totally reasonable
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16061 Posts
July 08 2016 12:41 GMT
#103
On July 08 2016 20:54 mikedebo wrote:
IMO we should remove blink from stalkers and give it to the spine and spore crawlers.

they also shouldn't require creep to burrow.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 12:43:07
July 08 2016 12:43 GMT
#104
On July 08 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 20:54 mikedebo wrote:
IMO we should remove blink from stalkers and give it to the spine and spore crawlers.

they also shouldn't require creep to burrow.

that would be so brutally silly. Z would just rush spines in their bases and then blink them towards their powerless opponents. Hilarious.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
July 08 2016 12:43 GMT
#105
On July 08 2016 21:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 08 2016 20:54 mikedebo wrote:
IMO we should remove blink from stalkers and give it to the spine and spore crawlers.

they also shouldn't require creep to burrow.

that would be so brutally silly. Z would just rush spines in their bases and then blink them towards their powerless opponents. Hilarious.


It would be very action packed. Casual spectators would love it.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 08 2016 12:44 GMT
#106
On July 08 2016 20:54 mikedebo wrote:
IMO we should remove blink from stalkers and give it to the spine and spore crawlers.

I'm game. Let's do it.
kiss kiss fall in love
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 08 2016 12:52 GMT
#107
On July 08 2016 21:43 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 21:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 08 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 08 2016 20:54 mikedebo wrote:
IMO we should remove blink from stalkers and give it to the spine and spore crawlers.

they also shouldn't require creep to burrow.

that would be so brutally silly. Z would just rush spines in their bases and then blink them towards their powerless opponents. Hilarious.


It would be very action packed. Casual spectators would love it.

It would be so cool. And imagine spine crawler worker harass, with spines blinking into innocent mineral lines ! Please implement next patch.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 08 2016 12:55 GMT
#108
On July 08 2016 21:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 21:43 Teoita wrote:
On July 08 2016 21:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 08 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 08 2016 20:54 mikedebo wrote:
IMO we should remove blink from stalkers and give it to the spine and spore crawlers.

they also shouldn't require creep to burrow.

that would be so brutally silly. Z would just rush spines in their bases and then blink them towards their powerless opponents. Hilarious.


It would be very action packed. Casual spectators would love it.

It would be so cool. And imagine spine crawler worker harass, with spines blinking into innocent mineral lines ! Please implement next patch.

I feel like we need this in our lives. SC was incomplete without it.
kiss kiss fall in love
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
July 08 2016 13:08 GMT
#109
On July 08 2016 21:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 21:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 08 2016 21:43 Teoita wrote:
On July 08 2016 21:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 08 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 08 2016 20:54 mikedebo wrote:
IMO we should remove blink from stalkers and give it to the spine and spore crawlers.

they also shouldn't require creep to burrow.

that would be so brutally silly. Z would just rush spines in their bases and then blink them towards their powerless opponents. Hilarious.


It would be very action packed. Casual spectators would love it.

It would be so cool. And imagine spine crawler worker harass, with spines blinking into innocent mineral lines ! Please implement next patch.

I feel like we need this in our lives. SC was incomplete without it.


I'm glad I was able to catalyze this community discussion. Full disclosure: I have never played SC2 before, but I've been watching since WoL and have read a lot of balance threads. For that reason, I feel that I truly understand what the community wants from SC2. I'm confident that I could do a much better job than the SC2 balance team.
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Nazara
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
United Kingdom235 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-08 14:11:58
July 08 2016 14:10 GMT
#110
At this point even avilo couldn't do any worse then current design team.

LSN on the other hand has some reasonable suggestions and understands what race design actually is. Wish there was at least one person on their team with similar outlook on things.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
July 09 2016 01:50 GMT
#111
I'm really tempted to just sink some starting capital into starting a Wings of Liberty eSports league at this point, since we should really be reviving the most fun and the least broken version of the game.
1 2 1 2
Profile Joined June 2016
39 Posts
July 09 2016 13:27 GMT
#112
On July 09 2016 10:50 Clbull wrote:
I'm really tempted to just sink some starting capital into starting a Wings of Liberty eSports league at this point, since we should really be reviving the most fun and the least broken version of the game.

By Wings of Liberty, do you mean Heart of the Swarm? xD
Haukinger
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany131 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-09 14:11:53
July 09 2016 14:11 GMT
#113
On July 09 2016 10:50 Clbull wrote:
I'm really tempted to just sink some starting capital into starting a Wings of Liberty eSports league at this point, since we should really be reviving the most fun and the least broken version of the game.


I'm in. How much would we need?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9571 Posts
July 09 2016 14:42 GMT
#114
On July 08 2016 21:55 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2016 21:52 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 08 2016 21:43 Teoita wrote:
On July 08 2016 21:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 08 2016 21:41 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 08 2016 20:54 mikedebo wrote:
IMO we should remove blink from stalkers and give it to the spine and spore crawlers.

they also shouldn't require creep to burrow.

that would be so brutally silly. Z would just rush spines in their bases and then blink them towards their powerless opponents. Hilarious.


It would be very action packed. Casual spectators would love it.

It would be so cool. And imagine spine crawler worker harass, with spines blinking into innocent mineral lines ! Please implement next patch.

I feel like we need this in our lives. SC was incomplete without it.


This would get me back into competitive starcraft as a viewer. Please implement and do not worry about impact on gameplay.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2016 15:10 GMT
#115
On July 09 2016 10:50 Clbull wrote:
I'm really tempted to just sink some starting capital into starting a Wings of Liberty eSports league at this point, since we should really be reviving the most fun and the least broken version of the game.

just patch WoL with 4 range phoenix and projectile fungal and it would actually be pretty interesting
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
July 09 2016 15:21 GMT
#116
For a month they just wasted time with this queen buff while there are so many important things to do.

Laziest, most disinterested design/balance team in the history of gaming.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
coolmiyo
Profile Joined February 2016
51 Posts
July 09 2016 15:31 GMT
#117
On July 10 2016 00:21 Sapphire.lux wrote:
For a month they just wasted time with this queen buff while there are so many important things to do.

Laziest, most disinterested design/balance team in the history of gaming.

yeah, they keep focusing on minor details while ignoring basic problems which make the game not fun and/or imbalanced: ravagers, ultralisks, liberators, siegevacs, adepts and tempests.

there is more bad stuff, but they can start fixing that.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
July 09 2016 15:49 GMT
#118
On July 10 2016 00:10 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2016 10:50 Clbull wrote:
I'm really tempted to just sink some starting capital into starting a Wings of Liberty eSports league at this point, since we should really be reviving the most fun and the least broken version of the game.

just patch WoL with 4 range phoenix and projectile fungal and it would actually be pretty interesting

Community balance patches, especially with the existence of extension mods, may be a possibility.
coolmiyo
Profile Joined February 2016
51 Posts
July 09 2016 17:37 GMT
#119
maybe they could add a matchmaking ladder using a certain extension mod chosen by the community.

people upload their extension mod with some balance tweaks /changes and players vote every week/two weeks to make a certain EM the chosen one to play it on this new ladder for a short period of time.

that way david can let people to improve the game and show new ideas.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
July 09 2016 17:42 GMT
#120
Is there a graph on buffs/nerfs to the Queen vs Bunker ? Which one has been changed the most ?
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